Jim McElwain Terminated by Florida

[tusks_n_raider]

We've seen two Florida coaches jump ship after winning national championships. It sounds to me like even when times are good in Gainesville, the coach is looking for a better deal.

And then, when times are bad...they get really bad.

They go out in style for sure....

Spurrier's exit was especially shocking to me. I know he left 'for the NFL' but I really want to say he was vocal quite a few times in those last 3 seasons that the Gator fanbase was unappreciative.

He won 9 or more games every year. He won 10 or more games 9 out of 12 seasons. Won 6 SEC Titles outright and 5 out of 7 SECCG's. 6 Top-5 Finishes. 2 NCG's and 1 NC. They DOMINATED the SEC then. But man they were always complaining something fierce and especially over their 5-8-1 record vs FSU and 6-5 overall bowl record in that time.

CSS was particularly cantankerous with pouting fans over losing the 9/11/01 rescheduled game with Tennessee at the end of the regular season when they were #2. They went from almost certainly playing Miami for a NC in the Rose Bowl to playing Maryland in the Orange Bowl and finishing #3. They were murmuring and complaining and he just had enough and used the NFL as an excuse to bolt.

At least that's how I remember it. He didn't really leave for something better but ANYTHING different. It seemingly dominated ESPN for days.


Meyer OTOH was just flat afraid of constant competition. He ran from from CNS and the SEC. He wanted an easier path to the NC. We all know it. IF Michigan ever gets traction with the Professor and/or Franklin keeps causing tough games his 'health condition' will be back. He didn't want a better deal....he wanted an easier one.

 

[CoolBreeze]

Somehow, I think he will.

Coach will find another team to give his all to...probably Nick's Kids.

 

[russtang]

I appreciate what he has done here, but I hope Saban butts out once he retires.


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Somehow, I think he will.

I think CNS will talk with the admin and plan when will be the best time for him to announce when he will retire and maybe suggest some coaches to replace him, but when he is done, he will be gone. GONE, and not meddle.

 

[PitMaster]

Why he did this interview, I don't know, but Spurrier gives his take.

[h=3]What Steve Spurrier thinks about Jim McElwain’s departure[/h]

Because he is spurrier - the head ball quitter

 

[RTR91]

A listener to the Montgomery radio show had a pretty question today.

We saw Spurrier leave for the NFL and come back to college for 10+ years. Zook failed but did fairly well at Illinois after Florida. Meyer did great but left for medical/family reasons for a year before ending up in Columbus. Muschamp did so-so before getting fired and ends up at South Carolina a year later wheee he's doing well. Mac is fired after two and a half years. Is there something with the Florida program in general?


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[bamacpa]

Cause he's a narcisistic SOB ?

Why he did this interview, I don't know, but Spurrier gives his take.

[h=3]What Steve Spurrier thinks about Jim McElwain’s departure[/h]

 

[Cruiser]

Somehow, I think he will.

He is not one to look back; preaches that to his players and lives it.

 

[Alasippi]

Re: Florida boosters are discussing buyout for Mac

I think this is about more than just a bad season.




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I'd agree with that. Has to be.

 

[Chukker Veteran]

I've wondered how Perkins would have done if Coach Bryant had lived after he retired. Somehow, I think it might have toned down Perk's abrasive attitude a little.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Somebody PLEASE tell me.....please.....that the move towards Oregon's Willie Taggart is a head fake to persuade the NCAA "yeah, we're actually considering hiring a black head coach..."

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...orida-jim-mcelwain/1dzmeck25c1pa1w594bzyxrt9k


It's not that I even care who the UF coach is but......you fired McElwain for a coach with a 45-49 record??


Surely this is just window dressing. And it's unnecessary as Charlie Strong would be the candidate for that and could at least to some extent be considered a legit contender. Yeah, I know he flamed out at Texas, but he never had a chance.

 

[Alasippi]

I've wondered how Perkins would have done if Coach Bryant had lived after he retired. Somehow, I think it might have toned down Perk's abrasive attitude a little.

Maybe....but I'm not sure. He had an ego the size of Texas. Or in the words of Danny Sheridan, "If Ray Perkins hasn't made you mad you haven't met him yet"

 

[Chukker Veteran]

Maybe....but I'm not sure. He had an ego the size of Texas. Or in the words of Danny Sheridan, "If Ray Perkins hasn't made you mad you haven't met him yet"

Perk the Jerk.

 

[RTR91]

Somebody PLEASE tell me.....please.....that the move towards Oregon's Willie Taggart is a head fake to persuade the NCAA "yeah, we're actually considering hiring a black head coach..."

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...orida-jim-mcelwain/1dzmeck25c1pa1w594bzyxrt9k


It's not that I even care who the UF coach is but......you fired McElwain for a coach with a 45-49 record??


Surely this is just window dressing. And it's unnecessary as Charlie Strong would be the candidate for that and could at least to some extent be considered a legit contender. Yeah, I know he flamed out at Texas, but he never had a chance.

Well, I have no idea why they would want to persuade that to the NCAA, but ok.

And if you're going to bring up his career record, you have to look at the progression each season.

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[selmaborntidefan]

Well, I have no idea why they would want to persuade that to the NCAA, but ok.

And if you're going to bring up his career record, you have to look at the progression each season.

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For one, I don't think Taggart would take the job. I've read similar stuff online.

I'm just trying to figure out what Florida's end game here is.

I mean, I'm not arguing for Frost, either, I think Gruden is some teams' pipe dream (and is overrated), and......could folks PLEASE stop locking in these huge buyouts????

 

[BigAlinKnoxville]

I'm just trying to figure out what Florida's end game here is.

Personally, I suspect that they already had a replacement in mind -OR- they figured that there would be a mad scramble for coaches in the SEC at season's end and wanted to get a jump on things.

....I think Gruden is some teams' pipe dream (and is overrated).

I didn't know a thing about him until I looked him up recently. So he has ZERO head coaching experience at the college level, yet the Vols are fawning all over him with a different "Grumor" popping up every other day. As far as I'm concerned, hey, let them have him. I suspect they'll be calling for his head by the third year because the SEC isn't the NFL.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Re: Florida boosters are discussing buyout for Mac

I'd agree with that. Has to be.

Heard Finebaum interview Mike Bianchi this afternoon. Bianchi thought that Foley had what he (Bianchi) termed, "buyer's remorse," about six months after the hire.

If Bianchi is accurate (and my suspicion of the press is well documented on this board), the rift started before Mac had even done his first preseason camp.

Not everybody is cut out to handle the parts of being a head coach that don't have anything to do with Xs and Os. Occam's razor would indicate that Mac is one of those.

There's no shame in that. If he were alive today, I think one of my all-time favorite coaches, Homer Smith, would say that about himself.

When he's 70, I think Mac will look back and say this was the best thing for everybody, including him. He'll go on to a less-pressured HC job, or a high-profile OC position, still make more money than 99.9% of the population, provide for his kids and grandkids, and sleep well every night.

Not a bad gig.

 

[USCBAMA]

Re: Florida boosters are discussing buyout for Mac

Heard Finebaum interview Mike Bianchi this afternoon. Bianchi thought that Foley had what he (Bianchi) termed, "buyer's remorse," about six months after the hire.

If Bianchi is accurate (and my suspicion of the press is well documented on this board), the rift started before Mac had even done his first preseason camp.

Not everybody is cut out to handle the parts of being a head coach that don't have anything to do with Xs and Os. Occam's razor would indicate that Mac is one of those.

There's no shame in that. If he were alive today, I think one of my all-time favorite coaches, Homer Smith, would say that about himself.

When he's 70, I think Mac will look back and say this was the best thing for everybody, including him. He'll go on to a less-pressured HC job, or a high-profile OC position, still make more money than 99.9% of the population, provide for his kids and grandkids, and sleep well every night.

Not a bad gig.

Maybe he's not HC material, or maybe he just needed a few more years at a smaller school before jumping to the big stage.

 

[Displaced Bama Fan]

Somebody PLEASE tell me.....please.....that the move towards Oregon's Willie Taggart is a head fake to persuade the NCAA "yeah, we're actually considering hiring a black head coach..."

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...orida-jim-mcelwain/1dzmeck25c1pa1w594bzyxrt9k


It's not that I even care who the UF coach is but......you fired McElwain for a coach with a 45-49 record??


Surely this is just window dressing. And it's unnecessary as Charlie Strong would be the candidate for that and could at least to some extent be considered a legit contender. Yeah, I know he flamed out at Texas, but he never had a chance.

I've stated multiple times that Strong should have stayed at Louisville one more year and the UF job was his. He was the DC under Meyer and Spurrier, recruited Miami well. I thought he was the perfect fit. We shall see.

 

[KrAzY3]

Somebody PLEASE tell me.....please.....that the move towards Oregon's Willie Taggart is a head fake to persuade the NCAA "yeah, we're actually considering hiring a black head coach...

May be their search criteria is just really limited.
1: Have they coached for Oregon.
2: Have they coached for Oregon.
3: Are we really sure they coached for Oregon?

 

[selmaborntidefan]

For one, I don't think Taggart would take the job. I've read similar stuff online.

I'm just trying to figure out what Florida's end game here is.

I mean, I'm not arguing for Frost, either, I think Gruden is some teams' pipe dream (and is overrated), and......could folks PLEASE stop locking in these huge buyouts????

Change the word "NCAA" to "media" and I still wonder.


I'm not knocking Taggart, I just don't get why you would fire Unproven A for pretty much the same Unproven B.

The same argument you cite here could basically be used (in a smaller context) of McElwain. He took over a team with three straight 3-9 seasons, had a 4-8 and then went 18-9 and won a bowl game....which further enhances my confusion.


I figured Mac was a roll of the dice when they hired him. I'll grant his record is spotty even with the two division titles. I'm just not understanding the replace A with B is all. I apply the same standard to Frost as I do to Taggart.


But given some comments attributed to Ms Dan Mullen - there may be a whole lot more insanity in Florida than we're aware of, too.