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RedWave said:
Just not sure how they can say that when they are still not certain he will be the starter. I mean sure, we all know, but still. Plus, it seems this is mostly based on one half of a game. I think he potentially could be the best ever, but he may not. And we all have to be prepared in case it doesn't go as we would like.
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Yeah, I understand, but he also showed flashes of brilliance in back up duty too all throughout the year. Couple that with what seems the impossible in the NC game and this is the hype you get.

At least it's coming from the media and not from CNS, like Gus has done in years past.
 
I think that Tua would be getting a ton of hype and make these lists (though not as #1) even if he had not played in the CFP (assuming he was still at Alabama). Remember, most analysts were high on him during the regular season. Color analysts for Alabama's games actually perked up when Tua came in the game. They knew that Alabama was going to keep scoring instead of running the ball eleventy times to run out the clock.
 
B1GTide said:
I think that Tua would be getting a ton of hype and make these lists (though not as #1) even if he had not played in the CFP (assuming he was still at Alabama). Remember, most analysts were high on him during the regular season. Color analysts for Alabama's games actually perked up when Tua came in the game. They knew that Alabama was going to keep scoring instead of running the ball eleventy times to run out the clock.
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Probably not to this extent, but it's true that he showed his capability in mop up duty. He was so good that we had an epic discussion about him getting more playing time and eventually replacing Jalen (which seemed unthinkable) and then it happened.
 
B1GTide said:
I think that Tua would be getting a ton of hype and make these lists (though not as #1) even if he had not played in the CFP (assuming he was still at Alabama). Remember, most analysts were high on him during the regular season. Color analysts for Alabama's games actually perked up when Tua came in the game. They knew that Alabama was going to keep scoring instead of running the ball eleventy times to run out the clock.
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Same thing occurred on the TV broadcasts as well. Felt like the CBS was beside themselves during the Vanderbilt game.
 
RedWave said:
Just not sure how they can say that when they are still not certain he will be the starter. I mean sure, we all know, but still. Plus, it seems this is mostly based on one half of a game. I think he potentially could be the best ever, but he may not. And we all have to be prepared in case it doesn't go as we would like.
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probably because it is so obvious to everyone how far superior he is all-around compared to hurts.

if tua isn't named the starter then i'll have to wonder if Saban is in the early stages of dementia.
 
CaliforniaTide said:
Same thing occurred on the TV broadcasts as well. Felt like the CBS was beside themselves during the Vanderbilt game.
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Yeah that was Gary Danielson. He was toweling off between commercial breaks...lol

These next two years will be a Mirror of 2008 and 2009 when Gary slobbered all over Tebow ad nauseam.

This time he will be singing Tua's praises and we will love it and the rest of the SEC will be sick of it :D
 
davefrat said:
probably because it is so obvious to everyone how far superior he is all-around compared to hurts.

if tua isn't named the starter then i'll have to wonder if Saban is in the early stages of dementia.
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It is interesting the expectation that develops when one becomes the highest paid guy in their profession particularly at a public institution.

I tend to agree with you about making decisions that ultimately turn out to be correct because when one is on all the opposition's bulls eye they can scarcely allow supporters to lose confidence.

I tend to think that the current version of "Rat Poison" is the most potent ever. We see it all the time "Alabama can win them all, until possibly Auburn, without Tua".

That to me offers up a prime recipe for decision creep and the opportunity for an off day/night against a TAMU, MSU or LSU where a 2nd. half Tua lacks the magic of before.

We will all be along for the ride but a "no decision" could turn out to be a "wrong decision".
 
UAH said:
It is interesting the expectation that develops when one becomes the highest paid guy in their profession particularly at a public institution.

I tend to agree with you about making decisions that ultimately turn out to be correct because when one is on all the opposition's bulls eye they can scarcely allow supporters to lose confidence.

I tend to think that the current version of "Rat Poison" is the most potent ever. We see it all the time "Alabama can win them all, until possibly Auburn, without Tua".

That to me offers up a prime recipe for decision creep and the opportunity for an off day/night against a TAMU, MSU or LSU where a 2nd. half Tua lacks the magic of before.

We will all be along for the ride but a "no decision" could turn out to be a "wrong decision".
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I think Saban has made enough good decisions to be allowed a miss or two. I always think he is going to make what he thinks is the best decision for the team and program. Do I think he made a wrong choice last year in sticking with Jalen so long? Kinda, but I don't know what he knows. I don't get to watch practice. I don't totally understand how reads work or shifts in the defense change how you make your choices as a QB. Saban makes millions per year and has won 5 of the last 9 NC's for a reason. I am an accountant for a manufacturing company for a reason. So I try to not totally question his decision, even if I think I would have made a different one were I in his shoes.
 
I agree with RedWave. Is it really about Tua or Jalen or rather about what decision will CNS make? I totally understand everyone's exuberance about what might happen, but I am in the "wait and see" camp and will temper any expectations I may have as to who will start and their performance in the fall.
 
Do we think CNS agrees with the general sentiment that the one who doesn't start will transfer?

If he believes that, considering the jockeying from both camps (don't think Tua meant to cause such a stir), I've about changed my mind about how CNS needs to handle the situation. Based on Jalen's so-so performance in the Spring (virtual no improvement was obvious) and having a decent impression of what Tua offers, I think CNS might go ahead and make a decision before the end of the summer. This is only true if he really thinks one is gone regardless.

In the situation is where both stay this year (and CNS knows it), I think we know the starter on Sept. 1.
 
I think at this point Saban is using Hurts to try to keep Tua focused on what he needs to do as much as anything else. I think he'd like Hurts to stay, obviously, if for no other reason than depth. He's also made it clear he wants Tua to protect the ball better. So, as long as Hurts is around he has more leverage. I think the starter is clear, and both parties have made it clear they don't want to stay if they're backups. The only real question to me is if Hurts transfers this year or waits.
 
Watch the last 11 throws Tua made in the NC game. Look at the incompletions and how almost ever one could have been catches. The way he processes the field so quickly and gets the ball out is uncanny. Watching this one video alone tells me all I need to know about what this kid can do.

https://youtu.be/-mDcCUUh1rg

We are going to see something special over the next 2 years.
 
Amen. You nailed it. He spreads the field and makes the running game much more effective and the receivers a lot happier with a lot more catches. No more of the look at your primary receiver, if he is not wide open, check down to a back or take off on a random run. It's no contest.
 
If you listen to Saban, he usually tells you the unvarnished truth.

He's said repeatedly that he wants to get back to a pro-style offense. He's also said that the job of the QB is to distribute the ball, getting it into the hands of the playmakers.

If that doesn't say Tua fits perfectly, and Jalen has miles to go, I don't know what does.

Saban also knows that there's a good chance that whoever is second string will transfer. Either would hurt, but which transfer would hurt the team less? I think we all know the answer to that one.

I think even Saban now feels that Jalen's huge strength -- ball security -- comes at too high a price in terms of missed opportunities (can't believe I just typed those words).

If Tua is healthy and not the starter, I'll wonder what in the world is going on.
 
4Q Basket Case said:
If you listen to Saban, he usually tells you the unvarnished truth.

He's said repeatedly that he wants to get back to a pro-style offense. He's also said that the job of the QB is to distribute the ball, getting it into the hands of the playmakers.

If that doesn't say Tua fits perfectly, and Jalen has miles to go, I don't know what does.

Saban also knows that there's a good chance that whoever is second string will transfer. Either would hurt, but which transfer would hurt the team less? I think we all know the answer to that one.

I think even Saban now feels that Jalen's huge strength -- ball security -- comes at too high a price in terms of missed opportunities (can't believe I just typed those words).If Tua is healthy and not the starter, I'll wonder what in the world is going on.
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And I think one of those missed opportunities is something that Saban holds very dear....recruiting.
 
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