Politics: 2020 Dem POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

[81usaf92]

That is partly my point. Conservatives seem incoherent in who they prefer on evaluations of personal character but they’re actually relatively consistent when you look at their larger agenda. If you seek to repel American conservatism - I call it practical fascism but that is just my opinion - then it must start with coherent, consistent agenda that people will broadly support. As long as a candidate isn’t actively seeking to genocide Armenians I couldn’t give a damn if they were failed by their history classes and come across as a dummy from time to time. I don’t really care if they said some sexist stuff in the past as long as it is abundantly clear they have grown as a person today. Clinton was not pro-LGBT for most of her life but when I voted for her I didn’t expect a rollback for the social gains made in that community.

Hypothetically if Bernie said he didn’t believe in the Holocaust you would still be behind him?

Denying the Arminian genocide is like believing that the Earth is flat. It just shows the sheer stupidity and/or ignorance of a person to not believe in empirical historical and scientific facts. The bigger issue with Cenk Uygur denying it is that he has profited from it by using the name of the group who carried out the genocide.

There is a lot more deplorable stuff about Uygur to list off that would take a novel to flesh out. But to give you an idea of how bad he is, there are only a few people in this country that I would ever hesitate voting for over Trump... Uygur is one. He is literally the David Duke of the Left.

Bernie’s interest in endorsing him is because Cenk gives him free publicity and free attacks on his opponents.

At some point we have to look for the greater good instead of the personal preference. It’s really how we’ve ended up with so many deplorable people in power.


As far as conservatives and Trump.... Trumpers aren’t conservatives.

 

[92tide]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1209181879460450304

 

[uafanataum]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/23/who-has-qualified-january-democratic-debate/?arc404=true

I know people want the field to be narrowed but I do not really like this. I will not vote for Yang in the primary but I want him to remain visible for as long as possible. Also, I am not sure that an all white field is good for democrats.

 

[jthomas666]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/23/who-has-qualified-january-democratic-debate/?arc404=true

I know people want the field to be narrowed but I do not really like this. I will not vote for Yang in the primary but I want him to remain visible for as long as possible. Also, I am not sure that an all white field is good for democrats.

Booker, Castro, and Harris were all strong candidates, but could never break out from the crowded field. And thanks to Citizens United, it's all about money, not ideas.

 

[Crimson1967]

Julian Castro has dropped out.

 

[CharminTide]

I'd forgotten he was still in. As had everyone responding to polls, it seems.

 

[Crimson1967]

I'd forgotten he was still in. As had everyone responding to polls, it seems.

I remember him as Obama’s HUD Secretary, but if his name wasn’t Castro, I doubt I would have recognized his name.

 

[rgw]

Booker, Castro, and Harris were all strong candidates, but could never break out from the crowded field. And thanks to Citizens United, it's all about money, not ideas.

I think Sanders and Warren have some ideas and I know that Sanders is mostly doing it with individual small donors. I think Warren is similar in that regard. Biden and Buttigieg are the candidates who seem to be benefiting from the Citizens United the most among the front runners.

 

[CharminTide]

Biden and Buttigieg are the candidates who seem to be benefiting from the Citizens United the most among the front runners.

In what way? Neither one is accepting PAC money.

 

[uafanataum]

If none of these candidates accepts pac money then how are they going to compete with all of the airtime trump can buy in the general election.

 

[chanson78]

If none of these candidates accepts pac money then how are they going to compete with all of the airtime trump can buy in the general election.

The purity of the true progressive compels you!
The purity of the true progressive compels you!
The purity of the true progressive compels you!

In all seriousness, I believe many think that it won’t matter. When you tap into the unbridled rage that obviously has to exist amongst the 18-35 vote now that politicians are adhering to some progressive purity test, things will all just work out.

It likely goes like this.

1. Pass progressive purity tests.
2. Raise 1/2 the amount that Trump and his super PACs/business interests can bring to bear.
3. ????
4. Win the election.

 

[uafanataum]

The purity of the true progressive compels you!
The purity of the true progressive compels you!
The purity of the true progressive compels you!

In all seriousness, I believe many think that it won’t matter. When you tap into the unbridled rage that obviously has to exist amongst the 18-35 vote now that politicians are adhering to some progressive purity test, things will all just work out.

It likely goes like this.

1. Pass progressive purity tests.
2. Raise 1/2 the amount that Trump and his super PACs/business interests can bring to bear.
3. ????
4. Win the election.

The power of true progressives does not carry the electoral college. You have to catch some people in the middle, especially in swing states.

 

[chanson78]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1213527160159428608

 

[CharminTide]

Oh, such casual shade.

 

[CharminTide]

AP: Shadow group provides Sanders super PAC support he scorns

Bernie Sanders says he doesn’t want a super PAC. Instead, he has Our Revolution, a nonprofit political organization he founded that functions much the same as one.

Like a super PAC, which is shorthand for super political action committee, Our Revolution can raise unlimited sums from wealthy patrons that dwarf the limits faced by candidates and conventional PACs. Unlike a super PAC, however, the group doesn’t have to disclose its donors — a stream of revenue commonly referred to as “dark money.” ...

Our Revolution has taken in nearly $1 million from donors who gave more than the limits and whose identities it hasn’t fully disclosed, according to tax filings for 2016, 2017 and 2018. Much of it came from those who contributed six-figure sums...

Sanders founded Our Revolution to further the political movement galvanized by his unsuccessful 2016 campaign for the Democratic presidential.

 

[Crimson1967]

Marianne Williamson will not be our next president.

Marianne Williamson ends 2020 presidential campaign

Author Marianne Williamson ended her 2020 Democratic presidential campaign on Friday after failing to gain traction in a crowded Democratic field.

www.cnn.com

 

[92tide]

always remember, opposing hair furor is opposing the will of the american electorate

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...sia-targeting-biden-in-2020-election-meddling

U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials are assessing whether Russia is trying to undermine Joe Biden in its ongoing disinformation efforts with the former vice president still the front-runner in the race to challenge President Donald Trump, according to two officials familiar with the matter.



The probe comes as senior U.S. officials are warning that Russia’s election interference in 2020 could be more brazen than in the 2016 presidential race or the 2018 midterm election.

...

A Kremlin strategy to undermine Biden would echo its work in 2016, when American intelligence agencies found that Russia carried out a sophisticated operation to damage Democrat Hillary Clinton and ultimately help Trump, according to the officials, who asked not to be identified discussing the sensitive matter.

A signature trait of Russian President Vladimir Putin “is his ability to convince people of outright falsehoods,” said William Evanina, director of the National Counterintelligence and Security Center, while declining to comment on whether U.S. intelligence is investigating a possible Russian campaign to undermine Biden.

“In America, they’re using social media and many other tools to inflame social divisions, promote conspiracy theories and sow distrust in our democracy and elections,” Evanina said in a statement. “As we look ahead to 2020, one thing I can guarantee is they’ll keep up their influence campaigns and utilize new vectors of disinformation.”


Russian operations this year represent a continuation of interference in the U.S. and other countries that’s been going on for years as Putin tries to undermine and destabilize western democracies, said John Demers, head of the Justice Department’s national security division.

 

[TexasBama]

Marianne Williamson will not be our next president.

Marianne Williamson ends 2020 presidential campaign

Author Marianne Williamson ended her 2020 Democratic presidential campaign on Friday after failing to gain traction in a crowded Democratic field.

www.cnn.com

I guess we'll never find out what really happened at Roswell, NM

 

[Go Bama]

Marianne Williamson will not be our next president.

Marianne Williamson ends 2020 presidential campaign

Author Marianne Williamson ended her 2020 Democratic presidential campaign on Friday after failing to gain traction in a crowded Democratic field.

www.cnn.com

I’m not going to miss her.

 

[rgw]

These Bloomberg commercials perpetually trigger my ass. The newest one where it says that he has “never taken a penny in contributions from special interests”...

Dude, you ARE a special interest using less than half of the interest you draw on your wealth per month to bankroll your own agenda into a presidential campaign.

Can someone please tell me how to choke a commercial.