News Article: Good luck dealing with a pandemic, depending on this administration...

[TIDE-HSV]

I have no problem understanding the projections. I didn’t realize Mardi Gras lasted until the end of March. Can’t say I pay it much attention when it ends/starts, etc.Thought it ended much earlier.

I think you are correct. However, the interval in which the virus has been active keeps being pushed back...

 

[crimsonaudio]

it is clear that the NIH was motivated by conspiracy theories that allege—without evidence—that the virus was somehow released by Chinese researchers in Wuhan, the central Chinese city where the pandemic began.

I cannot imagine stopping funding over internet rumors and conspiracy theories but I'll still not be surprised if we eventually find out this started in a lab, not from bat soup or a pangolin.

Not a conspiracy theory, just an absolute and complete lack of trust of the chinese government.

 

[B1GTide]

I cannot imagine stopping funding over internet rumors and conspiracy theories but I'll still not be surprised if we eventually find out this started in a lab, not from bat soup or a pangolin.

Not a conspiracy theory, just an absolute and complete lack of trust of the chinese government.

It also shows a certain lack of trust in science (which I share), because it is science telling us that this comes from nature, not just China. I don't trust China at all, but I trust science (mostly).

My only doubt in the science is that it may be tainted by politics.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

It just hit me this AM that Trump and crew are handling COVID-19 like a scandal: deny it, say that maybe it's happening but isn't that bad, so on and so forth then finally, it's happening and it's bad but it doesn't matter.

Also woke up wondering how the dry cough in COVID-19 is related to ACE inhibitor induced dry cough and if that might offer a clue to us somehow. Too bad we don't fully understand the mechanism behind that one. We do know ACEi's cause a proinflammatory state in some with kinens and prostaglandin and substance P and others and that protussive substances are produced in some people taking these, but not others. If we understood that mechanism better would we understand COVID-1 better?

I had assumed that it was a side effect of the virus co-opting the mucous cells of the throat and turning them into virus factories...

 

[Im_on_dsp]

This will never happen. People may wake up but, they won't do a thing about it. The companies doing the outsourcing do it for higher profit margins. Those companies will never accept lower profits which means higher prices for stuff made here. Americans will refuse to pay higher prices because, that's what we do. Why do you think Walmart is so popular? You have to convivence people to pay more for everyday items or convince the big companies to accept lower returns. Unlikely on both counts.

I agree with you that is unlikely to happen which is why I think we continue our global slide into mediocrity and continue to mortgage our future for something cheap today.

 

[crimbru]

SIAP:

Scientists say a now-dominant strain of the coronavirus could be more contagious than original

A mutation in the novel coronavirus has led to a new strain viewed as more contagious than the virus that emerged from China, according to a new study.

us.yahoo.com

 

[NationalTitles18]

I had assumed that it was a side effect of the virus co-opting the mucous cells of the throat and turning them into virus factories...

There is this whole renin-angiotensin-aldosterone mechanism that seems to be at play. I was mainly referring to the early dry cough. Of course a sore throat could cause a cough as well. Someone much smarter than I is going to unlock some of the mysteries of this virus.

 

[IM4UA]

It appears Trump is going to end the work of the WH virus task force. The responsibility will be passed down to FEMA and other local offices to manage. While the message this sends is absolutely wrong, there is probably only upside to having a more locally driven response. Maybe competent people will step up and take charge. I'll take my chances with practically anyone over Kushner.

Trump Likely to End Virus Task Force

 

[Jon]

It appears Trump is going to end the work of the WH virus task force. The responsibility will be passed down to FEMA and other local offices to manage. While the message this sends is absolutely wrong, there is probably only upside to having a more locally driven response. Maybe competent people will step up and take charge. I'll take my chances with practically anyone over Kushner.

Trump Likely to End Virus Task Force

i'm of two minds here

one, we may actually see some results which would be a great change from now

but two, with you it sends a message that this is over when it clearly isn't

 

[B1GTide]

i'm of two minds here

one, we may actually see some results which would be a great change from now

but two, with you it sends a message that this is over when it clearly isn't

It is the later which concerns me. Too many don't see trump for the turd that he is.

 

[92tide]

i'm of two minds here

one, we may actually see some results which would be a great change from now

but two, with you it sends a message that this is over when it clearly isn't

i think the second one is going to be one of the big problems we face in georgia after kemp's monumental idiocy the past two weeks. and he's learning from his daddy well, doubling down in the face of criticism

 

[PaulD]

Stopped by the Publix in Perry, Georgia, today and while I wasn't surprised to be part of a small minority wearing a mask, I was surprised to see a nurse in scrubs still wearing her hospital ID to not be wearing one.

 

[Rolltide51]

It appears Trump is going to end the work of the WH virus task force. The responsibility will be passed down to FEMA and other local offices to manage. While the message this sends is absolutely wrong, there is probably only upside to having a more locally driven response. Maybe competent people will step up and take charge. I'll take my chances with practically anyone over Kushner.

Trump Likely to End Virus Task Force

i certainly hope that we will still have access to the opinions of the doctors that are currently on the scene nationally. i wonder if this is a way to, if not silence them, keep them out of the daily news etc. i know thqt it is about more than that but i still wonder.

 

[crimsonaudio]

My only doubt in the science is that it may be tainted by politics.

The said part is we've seen this from the WHO and CDC recently (wrt masks).

I'm a science / data guy, but it wouldn't surprise me...

 

[92tide]

over 70,000 americans have died from this since the beginning of march

“Political Connections and Cronyism”: In Blistering Whistleblower Complaint, Rick Bright Blasts Team Trump’s Pandemic Response. Two weeks after being pushed out of his post, the former head of a $1.5 billion federal health agency formally accuses top officials of pressuring him to approve unproven chloroquine drugs and award pricey contracts to friends of the administration.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

i certainly hope that we will still have access to the opinions of the doctors that are currently on the scene nationally. i wonder if this is a way to, if not silence them, keep them out of the daily news etc. i know thqt it is about more than that but i still wonder.

I'm enough of a cynic (remember I gave this thread its title), that it seems to me to be an obvious "see no evil" tactic. Is Kushner still going to be behind the scenes confiscating state and local PPE and putting it "our stockpile?" What was all that about, anyway? I don't think you'll hear from Fauci again. He'll be under a gag order, if not an outright NDA...

 

[NationalTitles18]

Grim new projections forecast 'explosive growth' in COVID-19 cases, deaths

With the U.S. coronavirus death toll now over 68,000, some fatality projections referenced by the Trump administration have already been surpassed. Roughly 2,000 Americans are dying from the disease every day -- and that number could still rise. Pulitzer Prize-winning science journalist Laurie...

www.pbs.org

 

[GrayTide]

Those of you who are old enough to remember Nikita Khrushchev what he said may be on the way to happening with the buffoon in the WH and COVID-19 pandemic.

Letters: Nikita Khrushchev’s chilling prediction: ‘We will take America without firing a shot’

Nikita Khrushchev sent chills down my spine I was nine years old in 1956 when I read that Russia’s Communist leader Nikita Khrushchev said, “We will take America without firing a shot. …

www.orlandosentinel.com

 

[Jon]

here is an absolute first for me, posting an opinion piece from a pastor that I agree 100% with

I Think You May Be Wasting Freedom

Freedom is an unearned privilege—and you have it. If you were born here in America you inherited it. It came with your breath and your birth certificate. That freedom actually wasn’t free though—it was quite costly and someone prepaid it on your behalf. You never met them and you’ll likely...

johnpavlovitz.com

 

[Crimson1967]

Cases in Alabama
March 12 0
March 13 6
March 14 12
March 15 22
March 16 29
March 17 39
March 18 51
March 19 78
March 20 106
March 21 131
March 22 157
March 23 196
March 24 242
March 25 386
March 26 531
March 27 638
March 28 702
March 29 827
March 30 936
March 31 999
April 1 1,106
April 2 1,270
April 3 1,535
April 4 1,633
April 5 1,841
April 6 2,006
April 7 2,197
April 8 2,499
April 9 2,838
April 10 3,008
April 11 3,262
April 12 3,583
April 13 3,803
April 14 3,953
April 15 4,241
April 16 4,404
April 17 4,572
April 18 4,723
April 19 4,903
April 20 5,078
April 21 5,327
April 22 5,610
April 23 5,832
April 24 No update
April 25 6,213
April 26 6,418
April 27 6,539
April 28 6,750
April 29 6,924
April 30 7,068
May 1 7,294
May 2 7,611
May 3 7,888
May 4 8,118
May 5 8,437

State reports 315 deaths. (I have seen that number somewhere before).