Georgia State coach says Abruun helped by questionable call from SEC referees

[AlexanderFan]

Wish I could have seen the play.

Controversial instant replay call goes No. 23 Auburn’s way: ‘They had a little bit of help on that review’

Officials ruled that Auburn's John Samuel Shenker made a diving catch.

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I was having fun with the Auburn fans about it

 

[Con]

I kinda miss him and blitzkrieg. They brought…. Something to the board. I don’t know what it exactly was but it was kinda funny at times.

I think blitzkrieg will be back this year since they are ranked so highly.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

I’m beginning to think full-time refs would be worth the money.

The SEC has 14 teams, which means a maximum of 7 SEC games in any given weekend. That will be a max of 8 games whenever UTw and OU start an SEC schedule.

There are 7 refs in a crew, so that’s a max of 49 refs today, 56 after the new members are playing.

A quick Google search turned up the fact that NFL refs make an average of $205K a year. So let’s say the average SEC ref would earn $150K.

That’s $7.35 Million a year now, $8.4 million after UTw and OU. Works out to $525K per SEC school, per year. Less than the cost of a good OC or DC. There are a few position coaches earning that.

So would we pay half a million to minimize the chance of a game-changing hosing by the refs? I think every single school in the SEC (except maybe Auburn, who seems to reap the greatest benefit from the current setup) would say yes. Keep in mind, the half million figure doesn’t count what they already make. The marginal cost — that is, the additional cost that would be incurred over and above what we’re already paying — would be even less.

Yeah, I know you need a few spares for illness, injury, personal issues, etc. And you‘d need a few for centralized replay. But my point is that, in the context of an SEC football program, the additional cost doesn’t amount to a sneeze in a hurricane.

I think it’s worth a try.

 

[Elefantman]

What exactly is the ref looking at when they run the replay at Jordan Hare Stadium????

 

[CullmanTide]

I’m beginning to think full-time refs would be worth the money.

The SEC has 14 teams, which means a maximum of 7 SEC games in any given weekend. That will be a max of 8 games whenever UTw and OU start an SEC schedule.

There are 7 refs in a crew, so that’s a max of 49 refs today, 56 after the new members are playing.

A quick Google search turned up the fact that NFL refs make an average of $205K a year. So let’s say the average SEC ref would earn $150K.

That’s $7.35 Million a year now, $8.4 million after UTw and OU. Works out to $525K per SEC school, per year. Less than the cost of a good OC or DC. There are a few position coaches earning that.

So would we pay half a million to minimize the chance of a game-changing hosing by the refs? I think every single school in the SEC (except maybe Auburn, who seems to reap the greatest benefit from the current setup) would say yes. Keep in mind, the half million figure doesn’t count what they already make. The marginal cost — that is, the additional cost that would be incurred over and above what we’re already paying — would be even less.

Yeah, I know you need a few spares for illness, injury, personal issues, etc. And you‘d need a few for centralized replay. But my point is that, in the context of an SEC football program, the additional cost doesn’t amount to a sneeze in a hurricane.

I think it’s worth a try.

Auburn is paying less to get these calls why would they agree?

 

[CullmanTide]

What exactly is the ref looking at when they run the replay at Jordan Hare Stadium????

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Real estate opportunities.

 

[KrAzY3]

Controversial instant replay call goes No. 23 Auburn’s way: ‘They had a little bit of help on that review’

Officials ruled that Auburn's John Samuel Shenker made a diving catch.

www.al.com

I was having fun with the Auburn fans about it

I'm not really trying to play my role of resident contrarian, but I can both see how they missed the call in the first place and why it failed video review.

It's not as obvious as some make it sound. I've seen some bad calls, just blatant, more than a yard off the spot, are you watching the game type of calls. This is not that. In the first replay there is no clear indication at all he didn't make the catch. Part of that is everything is dark colored so it's hard to distinguish what's what.

The second replay isn't as obvious either because of the heavy blur. I can't locate his hand and if I can't locate his hand I can't really determine it's not under the ball. He rolls up with control so I can see making the assumption his hand was there.

To me it's one of the things where the call on the field stands, unless there's better video than I see there. Yes the ball moves but the rule allows the ball to move as long as he has the ball and I can't see anything proving he doesn't because to reiterate where is his hand?

If his hand is under the football, which honestly it appears to be then it is a catch right? So... I hate the SEC refs as much as anyone but I don't see the "proof" required to overturn the call, not on those two clips at least, it's too blurry.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

What exactly is the ref looking at when they run the replay at Jordan Hare Stadium????

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an auburn fan site?

 

[AlexanderFan]

I'm not really trying to play my role of resident contrarian, but I can both see how they missed the call in the first place and why it failed video review.

It's not as obvious as some make it sound. I've seen some bad calls, just blatant, more than a yard off the spot, are you watching the game type of calls. This is not that. In the first replay there is no clear indication at all he didn't make the catch. Part of that is everything is dark colored so it's hard to distinguish what's what.

The second replay isn't as obvious either because of the heavy blur. I can't locate his hand and if I can't locate his hand I can't really determine it's not under the ball. He rolls up with control so I can see making the assumption his hand was there.

To me it's one of the things where the call on the field stands, unless there's better video than I see there. Yes the ball moves but the rule allows the ball to move as long as he has the ball and I can't see anything proving he doesn't because to reiterate where is his hand?

If his hand is under the football, which honestly it appears to be then it is a catch right? So... I hate the SEC refs as much as anyone but I don't see the "proof" required to overturn the call, not on those two clips at least, it's too blurry.

Its the second replay that convinces me. Your hands will not bend in such a way to be under the half of the football closest to him. If they did the ball wouldn’t have bounced the way it did. Over half of that football hit the ground

 

[Bama197]

And Auburn fires their WR coach today. This is weird all the way around.

 

[KrAzY3]

Its the second replay that convinces me. Your hands will not bend in such a way to be under the half of the football closest to him. If they did the ball wouldn’t have bounced the way it did. Over half of that football hit the ground

I showed it to my wife without comment and she sees what I see.

The wrist you can spot right as he goes to the ground and it's near the front of the football, meaning his hand is under the ball (where it shows up when he rolls up, I also spotted what appears to be a finger under the other end of the ball a bit later in the replay). Now, it is reasonable to conclude that somewhere we can't actually see it his hand is no longer under the ball enough to count as a catch. I get why people would say they think it's not a catch, I just do not see any actual evidence to overturn it. It has to be evidence to overturn not presumption right? So, I get the angst because there's a decent chance it wasn't actually a catch, but I'm waiting for the screen grab or angle or something that actually shows he didn't make it.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Georgia State coach says Auburn Tigers were helped by questionable call from SEC referees

I'm not sure what has to happen, but it seems there have been more egregiously blown calls by SEC officials this year than ever before and we're barely 1/3 of the way into the season. What is the SEC doing to address this?

This is standard when games are played in awbern...

We have to play two different sets of stripes when we play down there.

 

[ReturnToGlory]

Auburn didn't invent cheating, but they perfected it.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

auburn logic:

we played like crap against an inferior opponent. What should we do?
Fire the receivers coach.

 

[crimsonaudio]

I know y'all hate abruun, but this is a bigger issue than them. This is happening all over the SEC this year. Think bigger.

 

[Mke4Bama]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1442253699611496453

"It took four games for their collaboration to end."

Harsin must be upset receivers weren't 8 ft tall to catch Nix's overthrows.

 

[jthomas666]

auburn logic:

we played like crap against an inferior opponent. What should we do?
Fire the receivers coach.

The receivers coach is clearly responsible for Bo Nix sucking.

 

[AUDub]

auburn logic:

we played like crap against an inferior opponent. What should we do?
Fire the receivers coach.

Not saying this isn't a falling on the sword firing but he's not going to have the leash Bobo and Mason do. WR performance has been a weak point in a team with quite a few holes. Apparently personnel and alignments have been a mess too.

Kiesau should be an upgrade.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

Not hard to find the video. A simple Google search will turn it up.

I understand how they missed the call in real time. It happened fast. But it was reviewed, and what I don’t understand is how they missed on review.

The ball is clearly on the ground, outside the control of the receiver. No way it wasn’t clear and indisputable evidence of an incompletion.

seems like they are looking at something else half the time

 

[colbysullivan]

I showed it to my wife without comment and she sees what I see.

The wrist you can spot right as he goes to the ground and it's near the front of the football, meaning his hand is under the ball (where it shows up when he rolls up, I also spotted what appears to be a finger under the other end of the ball a bit later in the replay). Now, it is reasonable to conclude that somewhere we can't actually see it his hand is no longer under the ball enough to count as a catch. I get why people would say they think it's not a catch, I just do not see any actual evidence to overturn it. It has to be evidence to overturn not presumption right? So, I get the angst because there's a decent chance it wasn't actually a catch, but I'm waiting for the screen grab or angle or something that actually shows he didn't make it.

I must have watched a different play because the ball clearly went through his hands and hit the ground, then he fell on it. It WAS egregious.