Jay Barker Arrested

[NationalTitles18]

Don't be surprised if CTE doesn't come up as a mention at some point whether by friend or foe.

I've already thought of that one.

If JB had a bad reputation he would likely get little benefit of the doubt. This goes against every bit of reputation he has (of which I'm aware).

 

[Crimson1967]

What was the cause of his divorce from his first wife?

 

[AlexanderFan]

What was the cause of his divorce from his first wife?

I think she cheated.

Court date is March 22 for this.

 

[uafan4life]

No, you knew someone whose parents could not spell.

Contrary to what seems to now be popular opinion, it is very much possible to misspell and/or mispronounce your own name.

I could walk around all I wanted saying my first name was supposed to be pronounced like, "shar-lez," but that would not change the fact that my first name is Charles.

Names have meaning, if they are previously used names and/or have linguistic roots - and bestowing a name on a person has effects, intentional or not and realized or not.

People should take far more care than they often do when naming their children...

 

[bamafaninbham]

I would think it would not be difficult to back into another car in the drive way, so I think if he truly intended to ram the car he would have accomplished the task. Or if he happened to miss and he really wanted to hit the car he would have put the car in drive and tried again. Like others have said, videos from surveillance cameras would shed some light on what really happened.

 

[Isaiah 63:1]

Contrary to what seems to now be popular opinion, it is very much possible to misspell and/or mispronounce your own name.

I could walk around all I wanted saying my first name was supposed to be pronounced like, "shar-lez," but that would not change the fact that my first name is Charles.

Names have meaning, if they are previously used names and/or have linguistic roots - and bestowing a name on a person has effects, intentional or not and realized or not.

People should take far more care than they often do when naming their children...

Lighten up, Charlize

 

[uafan4life]

Lighten up, Charlize

No.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

According to the SI article linked in the tweet in CB4’s post above, the incident took place in or near Sara’s driveway in Nashville. I promise she has security cameras covering her property. Unless she’s out in true acreage, there will be cameras covering the properties owned by all her neighbors. There‘s a real good chance there will be photographic evidence of what happened.

If there is (and I sincerely hope that’s the case), which party was in what state of mind, and when, will be moot points.

 

[uafan4life]

Something to bear in mind, regarding human relationships and, "what happened"...

There are always five truths:

1&2: The two "truths" that each involved party tells other people.
3&4: The two "truths" that each involved party tells themselves.
5: The actual truth, which no human may actually know, including the involved parties...

 

[AlexanderFan]

According to the SI article linked in the tweet in CB4’s post above, the incident took place in or near Sara’s driveway in Nashville. I promise she has security cameras covering her property. Unless she’s out in true acreage, there will be cameras covering the properties owned by all her neighbors. There‘s a real good chance there will be photographic evidence of what happened.

If there is (and I sincerely hope that’s the case), which party was in what state of mind, and when, will be moot points.

One article said driving her home from a party across the street.

I’ve also seen a kind of vague statement about reason to believe he attempted to run them over. It doesn’t get any more specific.

Also that the police got a warrant and arrested him later, around 5am.

I am in favor of the precautionary measures regarding domestic violence, but I’d like to see what evidence they had to arrest him.

 

[uafan4life]

One article said driving her home from a party across the street.

I’ve also seen a kind of vague statement about reason to believe he attempted to run them over. It doesn’t get any more specific.

Also that the police got a warrant and arrested him later, around 5am.

I am in favor of the precautionary measures regarding domestic violence, but I’d like to see what evidence they had to arrest him.

No evidence is actually required to arrest, only "probable cause"...

 

[AlexanderFan]

No evidence is actually required to arrest, only "probable cause"...

Which is eyewitness testimony from his wife, who he’s seperated from, and someone she’s friendly enough with to give her a ride home. Imagine being arrested over that.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

I've already thought of that one.

If JB had a bad reputation he would likely get little benefit of the doubt. This goes against every bit of reputation he has (of which I'm aware).

Agreed. Especially given the timing, it’s really weird.

After 4:00AM, Jay is at or near Sara’s house. Or maybe he’s following her. I don’t know. But there’s no way around the fact that he’s up, awake, and at her house in the wee hours of the morning. If it were anybody else, I’d think there was a good chance alcohol was involved.

Late Edit: The incident happened around 1:30AM. Barker was arrested at roughly 4:30AM.

But he’s been opposed to drinking since he was a kid. At least publicly anyway. And I’m not aware that that’s changed.

So if he was influenced by something stronger than coffee, when did his habits change? If he was sober as the proverbial judge, what is he doing at his sort-of-ex’s house at 4:00AM 1:30AM? Not to mention, that line of thinking brings up an entirely different set of questions.

Like I said earlier, it’s possible to construct a benign explanation. But no matter how you cut it, the facts that we have now do no present a good look for Jay.

 

[AlexanderFan]

Agreed. Especially given the timing, it’s really weird.

After 4:00AM, Jay is at or near Sara’s house. Or maybe he’s following her. I don’t know. But there’s no way around the fact that he’s up, awake, and at her house in the wee hours of the morning. If it were anybody else, I’d think there was a good chance alcohol was involved.

But he’s been opposed to drinking since he was a kid. At least publicly anyway. And I’m not aware that that’s changed.

So if he was influenced by something stronger than coffee, when did his habits change? If he was sober as the proverbial judge, what is he doing at his sort-of-ex’s house at 4:00AM? Not to mention, that line of thinking brings up an entirely different set of questions.

Like I said earlier, it’s possible to construct a benign explanation. But no matter how you cut it, the facts that we have now do no present a good look for Jay.

I would think if alcohol was involved it would’ve been mentioned in the charges maybe?

At the very least it’s pretty obvious who wants out of the marriage, and who doesn’t.

 

[Isaiah 63:1]

…I am in favor of the precautionary measures regarding domestic violence, but I’d like to see what evidence they had to arrest him.

You already know the answer to that: the statements of the alleged victim and one witness give the police probable cause to arrest. That doesn’t mean their statements are factual, or all the facts. As @4Q Basket Case says above, with any luck cameras will answer the questions…

 

[uafan4life]

Agreed. Especially given the timing, it’s really weird.

After 4:00AM, Jay is at or near Sara’s house. Or maybe he’s following her. I don’t know. But there’s no way around the fact that he’s up, awake, and at her house in the wee hours of the morning. If it were anybody else, I’d think there was a good chance alcohol was involved.

But he’s been opposed to drinking since he was a kid. At least publicly anyway. And I’m not aware that that’s changed.

So if he was influenced by something stronger than coffee, when did his habits change? If he was sober as the proverbial judge, what is he doing at his sort-of-ex’s house at 4:00AM? Not to mention, that line of thinking brings up an entirely different set of questions.

Like I said earlier, it’s possible to construct a benign explanation. But no matter how you cut it, the facts that we have now do no present a good look for Jay.

I think the incident occurred around 1:30 am.

As for a reason for being there, perhaps one of the children - if there are any - living at the house had some situation occur where they needed to contact one of the parents but couldn't get in contact with her so they called him?

There are at least a thousand possible explanations that could result in him having actually done nothing wrong.

There are also at least a thousand explanations that could result in him being guilty of a felony.

We know virtually nothing, at this point.

 

[uafan4life]

I would think if alcohol was involved it would’ve been mentioned in the charges maybe?

At the very least it’s pretty obvious who wants out of the marriage, and who doesn’t.

No, nothing is obvious...

 

[AlexanderFan]

You already know the answer to that: the statements of the alleged victim and one witness give the police probable cause to arrest. That doesn’t mean their statements are factual, or all the facts. As @4Q Basket Case says above, with any luck cameras will answer the questions…

You’re right. I would just hope for something more substantial than eyewitness testimony from two biased individuals in regards to being arrested. You want to haul him to jail to cool off? I’m fine with that. I just don’t like the idea of being arrested and charged with that level of evidence.

 

[Isaiah 63:1]

You’re right. I would just hope for something more substantial than eyewitness testimony from two biased individuals in regards to being arrested. You want to haul him to jail to cool off? I’m fine with that. I just don’t like the idea of being arrested and charged with that level of evidence.

It’ll take more than what’s public, I would think, to arraign him. That’s the point at which it gets real…

 

[uafan4life]

You’re right. I would just hope for something more substantial than eyewitness testimony from two biased individuals in regards to being arrested. You want to haul him to jail to cool off? I’m fine with that. I just don’t like the idea of being arrested and charged with that level of evidence.

I wouldn't advise doing any research into how many people - under our justice system - are arrested and charged (at least initially) with crimes for which they aren't found guilty, especially if you remove crimes of simple possession of drugs and paraphernalia...