Bama Game Thread: OFFICIAL POSTGAME THREAD - Bama @ LSU...

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Something else to consider, with the exception of Vanderbilt and possibly Auburn, the quality of SEC coaches is light years ahead of where it was 3-4 years ago. IF Alabama does not upgrade its coaching staff things could get worse than a two loss season. Me thinks it is going to be a rough ride.
Okay, consider this. Maybe the quality coaches we need are hesitant to come aboard.
Could it be due to not knowing when CNS is gonna hang it up?
Could it be 'cuz he has the reputation of being a hard-ass?
What COULD it be?
It ain't money, that's for sure.
Recruiting coaches, IMO, is kinda like the same difficulty of attracting all the top graded 5*'s to sign up. And even if they come aboard, it doesn't mean they'll be compatible and give max effort.
We're in a down period right now. We've been here before. We've risen above in the past. I don't know if we'll rise again but, in all reality, we really don't have that far to go to get back to the surface. We've lost 4 games in the last 2 seasons. There's a possibility it might be 5 before seasons end.
I've never before been a fan of "Coach in Waiting" but maybe this is something the administration needs to explore. Roast me if you want but when you start seeing cracks in the foundation don't let the house fall before you make an effort to fix it!
RTR!!!

EDIT - Gonna hafta walk back that "Coach in Waiting" bit. My frustration(s) got the best of me there for a moment.
 
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Look at how much LSU has improved since the first game and then look at us. From the first game to this LSU game, this seems like the exact same team that struggled against Texas. I would say that's 65% coaching and the other percentage is the players buying into the coaching. Changes have to be made at both offensive and defensive coordinator. We also just do not have that one WR that can break down the field and burn people and that shows you that our offensive scheme isn't dynamic enough and needs changing.
 

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I think Will Anderson’s “anxiety” comments ring even more true now than they dude after the UTK game.

For years Saban preached about mental toughness, and the players not just don’t seem to be all there, like I said, they’re playing hard but it’s like they’re unsure of themselves. I believe opponents know that and know that they can get in the team’s head which used to be an impossible task against Alabama. Now that can be attributed to coaching but it can also be attributed to a cancer on the roster that stayed instead of leaving, we won’t know until the offseason.
 

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Now I am wishing the barn would have just kept Boise Bryan until the end of the season. They were getting blown out against a MSU team that is far better than us, and they ALMOST pulled off a win on the road. Losing to Ole Miss would be one thing. But losing to Crayola Williams...unthinkable. Not to mention...he's virtually doing it all on his own. The guy has no OC or DC right now and he's somehow got that team looking far and away better
 

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I’ll go back to what I said at the beginning of the season: LSU was the enigma in the conference. It was a team that had the highest ceiling or the lowest basement. Could Kelly rid them of Ogre issues, instill discipline and coach them up? We knew they had talent. Ogre didn’t leave the cupboard bare. Against FSU, it looked like a complete overhaul was needed. But to Kelly’s credit, they steadily improved.

But I’ll also restate what I said before this last game: there was really nothing hidden about what Kelly would do offensively. The biggest thing we had to do was prevent Daniels breaking contain. I knew it. You knew it. Everyone on this board knew it. You don’t need to be Einstein to figure it out. And Pete Gol*ing couldn’t figure it out? And what group played the absolute worst in those key situations? Our LBs, the very group he is responsible for. Seriously, Kelly could have given Pete his playbook two weeks ago and it would not have matter.
LSU isn’t the “enigma” anymore. We know who they are. Bama is the enigma. We won’t come close to our ceiling. The question becomes, for this season at least, where is our “basement”.
 

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Now I am wishing the barn would have just kept Boise Bryan until the end of the season. They were getting blown out against a MSU team that is far better than us, and they ALMOST pulled off a win on the road. Losing to Ole Miss would be one thing. But losing to Crayola Williams...unthinkable. Not to mention...he's virtually doing it all on his own. The guy has no OC or DC right now and he's somehow got that team looking far and away better
Huh??? MSU is better than us but we beat them 30-6???

Caddy just had them running on emotion and that can only last so long.
 

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Now I am wishing the barn would have just kept Boise Bryan until the end of the season. They were getting blown out against a MSU team that is far better than us, and they ALMOST pulled off a win on the road. Losing to Ole Miss would be one thing. But losing to Crayola Williams...unthinkable. Not to mention...he's virtually doing it all on his own. The guy has no OC or DC right now and he's somehow got that team looking far and away better
Say what? This is pure stupidity. Sorry. You think that MSU is far better than Bama after Bama blew them out? You need help. 🤣
 

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Look at how much LSU has improved since the first game and then look at us. From the first game to this LSU game, this seems like the exact same team that struggled against Texas. I would say that's 65% coaching and the other percentage is the players buying into the coaching. Changes have to be made at both offensive and defensive coordinator. We also just do not have that one WR that can break down the field and burn people and that shows you that our offensive scheme isn't dynamic enough and needs changing.
Not just this year. Bama struggled with an eventual 6-7 Florida team in September of 2021. I was at that game. Didn't realize it was a sign of things to come. 11 penalties in that game. Outgained by 100 yards. Gave up a score with 3:10 left and luckily UF didn't convert the 2 point attempt. Bama then couldn't run out the clock and gave the ball back to Florida for one more play.

This is not a 2022 problem. It's a post 2020 problem.
 

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I think Will Anderson’s “anxiety” comments ring even more true now than they dude after the UTK game.

For years Saban preached about mental toughness, and the players not just don’t seem to be all there, like I said, they’re playing hard but it’s like they’re unsure of themselves. I believe opponents know that and know that they can get in the team’s head which used to be an impossible task against Alabama. Now that can be attributed to coaching but it can also be attributed to a cancer on the roster that stayed instead of leaving, we won’t know until the offseason.
The only guy with mental and testicular fortitude as far as I can tell is Bryce Young. That dude does not get rattled. He had played like crap all game but when he got the ball late in the game I had no doubt he'd get Bama in position to score. And he did.
 

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As for how we will finish, I won't believe they lay down and quit until I see. Therefore, I believe the Ole Miss game will be a 50/50 game. But I would have thought that had we beaten LSU.

Auburn? Well... I'm sure they will be hyped up and we need to be able to respond to that. It's definitely a losable game. And if we don't beat Ole Miss, then yes we are going to be in a strange place mentally. We'll see.

As for the bowl game... don't throw rocks at me but I'd prefer it be used as a tool to prepare for next season. I do not want NFL prospects going out there for a bowl game. If they just absolutely have to do it... for school pride... well I'd still try to talk them out of it. But let the young guys get a jump on 2023. Let them take ownership of the program, and the bowl game.

I may be wrong but that's how I would do it.
 

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Not just this year. Bama struggled with an eventual 6-7 Florida team in September of 2021. I was at that game. Didn't realize it was a sign of things to come. 11 penalties in that game. Outgained by 100 yards. Gave up a score with 3:10 left and luckily UF didn't convert the 2 point attempt. Bama then couldn't run out the clock and gave the ball back to Florida for one more play.

This is not a 2022 problem. It's a post 2020 problem.
I actually think it's a pre-2020 problem. Defensively anyhow. That 2020 offense was so good no one could outscore them. Overshadowed a defense there was not that good at all. Play better in the playoffs but the SEC title game was ugly.
 

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Please, Big. Not this song again.

Talent, I mean true talent:
1. Bryce.
2. Gibbs
3. Will
4. Koolaid.
5. Dallas with a little more time.
6. Will Reichard maybe?

Offensive line? ...
Defensive line? ....
Receivers? ....
Inside linebackers? ....
Cornerbacks and safeties? ....

It's fair to question coaches. That's an easier explanation than a substandard level of talent. But Jess's wrap-up nailed what some of us have been saying for a while now. Alabama, after year after year after year of top recruiting classes, finds itself with gaping talent shortages all over the field.

How can that be, if not for a massive miscalculation of the players we've brought in or an unimaginable failure to develop them. Or both. Even more frightening, has Nick Saban's cutting edge manual of recruiting suddenly become obsolete or in need of significant revisions?

Questionable coaching? Sure, why not? But let's trust our eyes. Just like last year, we're simply not that talented, not very deep, and not that good,
Then we might as well throw out and dismiss all of the recruiting services and websites. They ALL say otherwise.
 
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As for how we will finish, I won't believe they lay down and quit until I see. Therefore, I believe the Ole Miss game will be a 50/50 game. But I would have thought that had we beaten LSU.

Auburn? Well... I'm sure they will be hyped up and we need to be able to respond to that. It's definitely a losable game. And if we don't beat Ole Miss, then yes we are going to be in a strange place mentally. We'll see.

As for the bowl game... don't throw rocks at me but I'd prefer it be used as a tool to prepare for next season. I do not want NFL prospects going out there for a bowl game. If they just absolutely have to do it... for school pride... well I'd still try to talk them out of it. But let the young guys get a jump on 2023. Let them take ownership of the program, and the bowl game.

I may be wrong but that's how I would do it.
Yeah, I mean it’s a new era of CFB, might as well embrace the times we’re in whether you like it or not.

A month to prepare the younger guys for a bowl game could be a positive. Plus Milroe and Simpson get a month to have a mini-QB battle if you will.

Definitely wouldn’t be mad if the stars wanted to play though.
 
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I actually think it's a pre-2020 problem. Defensively anyhow. That 2020 offense was so good no one could outscore them. Overshadowed a defense there was not that good at all. Play better in the playoffs but the SEC title game was ugly.
The defense has been substandard from the moment Pete Golding was hired. At least 2020 had leadership and pride. Since 2020 the program has a nose dive, but Bryce Young has been able to cover a lot of that up. The team could have *easily* lost 5 regular season games last year (2 point win against UF, 6 point win against LSU, 7 point win against Arkansas, 2 point win against AU in addition to the loss to TAMU. Bama could easily have 4 losses this year.

2020 won every game easily and only one game was ever in doubt.
2019 lost the only two games that were ever in doubt and one was to one of the greatest teams ever and the other was with a backup QB in the Voodoo bowl.
2018 won every game comfortably until the championship.
2017 lost to AU and had a close game against MSU.
2016 won every game until the championship. Ole Miss was very close but that's the only game that was in doubt.
2015 lost to Ole Miss by 6 at home. Fluke game with 5 turnovers and an unsettled QB. After that Bama won every game with only 2 being close (UT and Clemson).

So before 2021 Bama would have 1 or 2 games that were close. Now it is every. frickin'. away. game. AND some of the home games against bad teams.

It used to be when Bama lost you thought, "Dang, if we could play them again I know we'd win!" but now it's like, "Glad that's over".
 

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