OC and DC replacement discussion

[JustNeedMe81]

So thought I'd check a little deeper and we had a lot of common opponents this year.

Auburn:
UGA allowed 10
UA allowed 27

LSU
UGA allowed: 30 ( a lot of garbage points here though
UA allowed: 32 (when it really mattered)

UTe
UGA allowed: 13
UA allowed: 52 (hurts to type that)

Vandy (hard to count it)
UGA allowed 0
UA allowed: 3

Miss State:
UGA allowed 19 (few garbage points here also)
UA allowed: 6

So they allowed 72 to our 120 even though some of theirs were also garbage time points and only had one opponent who they allowed to score more than we did.

Not a good way to compare things.
Auburn v.s. Georgia- Hasbin coached that game.
Auburn v.s. Alabama- Interim coach coached the game.

LSU v.s. Georgia- Held them to 30 points, but LSU offense couldn't keep up with them.
LSU v.s. Alabama- Executions issues were on players for offense and defense. This should've been similar score as Georgia. Should've been 34-24 something.

UTE:
UGA- You forgot.. they played Tennessee after Tennessee played Alabama. They took our game plan, but made some adjustments to make sure Tennessee wouldnt' do same way that they did to Alabama. Alabama never made adjustments throughout the game.. that is what hurt us the most.

Vandy- You can't count them... C'mon.

Miss State- Should've been a shutout game for Alabama on last drive.
Georgia had second string in the game. so ......

SO this isn't probably right thing to do comparison...

Same scheme, same personnel set up, same concepts, everything is same down the road, only thing is.. how they use their personnel in blitz package and how they call the game... two different methods.. but yet... same scheme. What's funny is Kirby hasn't experienced lot of staff turnovers since he took over the program.. the way Saban has. That will change soon.
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[BearFoot]

I heard Bob and Pete are just going to switch roles.

Well…Pete knows how to facilitate offensive scoring…and BoB knows how to keep an offense from scoring

 

[Lucky Jack]

UTE:
UGA- You forgot.. they played Tennessee after Tennessee played Alabama. They took our game plan, but made some adjustments to make sure Tennessee wouldnt' do same way that they did to Alabama.

The main problem here is that you can be certain Bama wouldn’t have done it, had the roles been reversed.

 

[gtgilbert]

Not a good way to compare things.
Auburn v.s. Georgia- Hasbin coached that game.
Auburn v.s. Alabama- Interim coach coached the game.

LSU v.s. Georgia- Held them to 30 points, but LSU offense couldn't keep up with them.
LSU v.s. Alabama- Executions issues were on players for offense and defense. This should've been similar score as Georgia. Should've been 34-24 something.

UTE:
UGA- You forgot.. they played Tennessee after Tennessee played Alabama. They took our game plan, but made some adjustments to make sure Tennessee wouldnt' do same way that they did to Alabama. Alabama never made adjustments throughout the game.. that is what hurt us the most.

Vandy- You can't count them... C'mon.

Miss State- Should've been a shutout game for Alabama on last drive.
Georgia had second string in the game. so ......

SO this isn't probably right thing to do comparison...

Same scheme, same personnel set up, same concepts, everything is same down the road, only thing is.. how they use their personnel in blitz package and how they call the game... two different methods.. but yet... same scheme. What's funny is Kirby hasn't experienced lot of staff turnovers since he took over the program.. the way Saban has. That will change soon.
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even though you disgree with the analysis, don't the statements:

"...but made some adjustments to make sure Tennessee wouldnt' do same way that they did to Alabama. Alabama never made adjustments throughout the game.."

and

" Executions issues were on players for offense and defense. This should've been similar score as Georgia. Should've been 34-24 something. . "

basically make the point that the Defensive coaches were not getting it done.

In fact I think you summed up what I was saying really well with this statement"

"Same scheme, same personnel set up, same concepts, everything is same down the road, only thing is.. how they use their personnel in blitz package and how they call the game... two different methods.. but yet... same scheme."

Only thing I would add is that the same scheme with all the caveats you stated above is getting significantly better results....

 

[JustNeedMe81]

even though you disgree with the analysis, don't the statements:

"...but made some adjustments to make sure Tennessee wouldnt' do same way that they did to Alabama. Alabama never made adjustments throughout the game.."

and

" Same scheme, same personnel set up, same concepts, everything is same down the road, only thing is.. how they use their personnel in blitz package and how they call the game... two different methods.. but yet... same scheme. "

basically make the point that the Defensive coaches were not getting it done.

In fact I think you summed up what I was saying really well with this statement"

"Same scheme, same personnel set up, same concepts, everything is same down the road, only thing is.. how they use their personnel in blitz package and how they call the game... two different methods.. but yet... same scheme."

Only thing I would add is that the same scheme with all the caveats you stated above is getting significantly better results....

Okay, now I get it. I guess I was little confused to why you would use common opponents without putting some context behind it. But it's all good, I get what you were trying to say.

 

[Ole Man Dan]

There is a nasty rumor on FB about our OC.
Since it's FB , I put no credence in it.

I'm pretty sure if there was anything to it the info would have been on TideFans.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

There is a nasty rumor on FB about our OC.
Since it's FB , I put no credence in it.

I'm pretty sure if there was anything to it the info would have been on TideFans.

Does it have anything to do with our OC coming back next season?

Blink once for "No"

Blink twice for "Yes"

 

[Ole Man Dan]

Does it have anything to do with our OC coming back next season?

Blink once for "No"

Blink twice for "Yes"

Did you see it?

 

[tonymitchell399]

I am ready to see next few days leading to bowl game . I am sure there will be some information out on who stays and who goes at least . I hope my Tide gets them a very good OC and DC ready to see how it plays out.

 

[BigPoppa52]

Pull some idiot out of the stands who scored four TDs in one game for Polk High.
He couldn't do any worse than Clueless Bill.

"Oh, Allllll . . ."

 

[tonymitchell399]

Time to find Coach Saban some help to coach up all theses elite players that is coming to Bama .

 

[Con]

Time to find Coach Saban some help to coach up all theses elite players that is coming to Bama .

I am going to think positive and say that he already has his man for defense and offense.

 

[tonymitchell399]

I am going to think positive and say that he already has his man for defense and offense.

I know he is the Best ever at what he does . I hope you are right this class coming in is amazing great job by the entire current coaching staff.

 

[JustNeedMe81]

I am going to think positive and say that he already has his man for defense and offense.

You mean offense.

 

[Con]

You mean offense.

Gotta have faith.

 

[Padreruf]

I don't think PG is going anywhere...just my hunch. We better get ready for full scale melt-down come January...LOL.

 

[GrayTide]

I don't think PG is going anywhere...just my hunch. We better get ready for full scale melt-down come January...LOL.

Unfortunately, I am in total agreement with Padre's post. Sadly this would be the perfect opportunity to move on without Golding, but I just cannot see CNS terminating him.

 

[bamadwain]

I believe both are gone, BOB will probably go back to New England and Golding's bags are packed ( Plus I sent him a suite case for Christmas) as I see him moving on

 

[DzynKingRTR]

I still maintain that neither are gone if no one else hires them.

 

[JustNeedMe81]

I still maintain that neither are gone if no one else hires them.

I don't know if you have PTSD or what when it comes to BOB... I feel for you my brother, but he's not coming back. BOB is 1000 percent gone. I feel like I tell you this every week. BOB doesn't want to come back. Saban wants to go back to physical football. Patriots wants him back. now that NSD is over, I expect Saban to continue to focus on the game until 31st but expect to make hiring at OC sometime in Jan...Technically, Playoff starts Saturday January 14. I expect BOB to go to Patriots around that week.

As for DC,
I don't mind if he stays on 1 condition that Saban hires someone to help Golding with playcalling. Pruitt would be perfect for that. Together they can do some serious damage on the field.