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Trump Attempted Coup - Part VIII

AWRTR said:
That was a really good interview. He said what I have said about this topic for weeks. This issue has to be adjudicated. SCOTUS will outline how section 3 will be enforced and what the standard is for determining who is disqualified. That is the proper way to do it. Federal authorities will have to weigh in on federal elections so things are uniform. Now someone has to remove him from the ballot in a state or, as I think has already happened, someone has to sue to remove him. The idea that random state or local elected officials would remove him with no federal oversight via the judiciary was ludicrous.
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IF you're still after me, your have not really followed what I've been saying. (I'm doing what they warn you against in law school- never argue law with a non-lawyer.) As he said, the stronger position is that it's self-executing, or the other constitutional provisions wouldn't be either. That doesn't mean there won't be judicial review. That's always been inevitable and necessary. Personally, I don't think an individual has legal standing to bring suit. You're extracting from his remarks only what you want to hear...
 
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Oh no. There are people that have said the secretary’s of state or other equivalent election officials could just remove him. I know that wasn’t people with a brain, but just like some people are so obsessed with Trump and they will do anything to put him in power there are some that will do anything to see him not in power. The rule of law must stand and with people like the SoS of AZ hopefully it will.
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Oh good grief!
 
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92tide said:
22 years is a lot for a protest that got a little out of hand


Henry "Enrique" Tarrio, former leader of the right-wing extremist group Proud Boys, was sentenced on Wednesday to 22 years in prison for his role in the deadly Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection.
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Tarrio was found guilty in May of seditious conspiracy related to Jan. 6, alongside other Proud Boys members.
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Roger Stone coordinated with these groups and DJT coordinated with Stone the night before the attack.

The seditious conspiracy was to stop the transfer of power to Joe Biden, the duly elected President, and Trump was at the head of the Conspiracy.

Trump should be disqualified and should be in prison alongside his coconspirators.
 
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NationalTitles18 said:
Tarrio was found guilty in May of seditious conspiracy related to Jan. 6, alongside other Proud Boys members.
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Roger Stone coordinated with these groups and DJT coordinated with Stone the night before the attack.

The seditious conspiracy was to stop the transfer of power to Joe Biden, the duly elected President, and Trump was at the head of the Conspiracy.

Trump should be disqualified and should be in prison alongside his coconspirators.
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I'm going to try to make one final clarification of what the constitutional scholars are talking about one last time. After that, that part of this thread is closed for discussion until there are further developments. The topic descended below our "ignorant sparring" long ago. Now, some provisions of the Constitution are considered "self-executing." This means that there is no directive in the Constitution, either explicitly or implicitly, that Congressional action is required to effectuate the provision. The Constitution is a mixture of the two types. This does not mean it's not subject to judicial review. It just means that no prior judicial determination is required to trigger the amendment. As with the readmitted Confederates, there was no prior conviction required because of the self-executing amendment provision. The reinstatement, which IS provided for, was in the nature of a congressional pardon, if you will. Self-executing (no prior Congressional action required) provisions can still trigger judicial review, just as the Arizonian AG says. It will happen. He's indicated that he's open to to doing that, after internal review, because it's his duty. If he recognizes the general and public evidence of participation in insurrection as adequate, then we will have, probably rapid, judicial review. I would bet the Supreme Court law clerks are already working on it. Now, as I said, this is closed, pending new developments arise. I will delete further comments on this issue and discipline as necessary to enforce the cloture...
 
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Former Donald Trump trade adviser Peter Navarro has been convicted of contempt of Congress for not complying to a subpoena from the House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol.

Navarro is the second ex-aide to the former president to be prosecuted for his lack of cooperation with the committee. Steve Bannon was convicted last year on two contempt counts. Bannon’s case is currently on appeal.
 
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Former Donald Trump trade adviser Peter Navarro has been convicted of contempt of Congress for not complying to a subpoena from the House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol.

Navarro is the second ex-aide to the former president to be prosecuted for his lack of cooperation with the committee. Steve Bannon was convicted last year on two contempt counts. Bannon’s case is currently on appeal.
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whats insane is that he talked about this everywhere else
 
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A federal judge on Friday rejected former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows’ bid to move his Georgia criminal case to federal court, a significant setback for Meadows and a troubling sign for former President Donald Trump.

US District Judge Steve Jones found that the allegations against Meadows contained in the Fulton County district attorney’s indictment on election subversion charges were largely “related to political activities” and not to Meadows’ role as White House chief of staff.

“The evidence before the Court overwhelmingly suggests that Meadows was not acting in his scope of executive branch duties during most of the Overt Acts alleged,” wrote Jones, a Barack Obama appointee.



The Friday ruling has significant implications for the former president and his 18 co-defendants in the Fulton County district attorney’s sprawling racketeering case, though the judge said the ruling did not apply to the other defendants. Meadows was the first of five defendants who already filed motions to move the case to federal court – and Trump is expected to do so, too.
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Ray Epps, ex-Marine targeted by a Jan. 6 conspiracy theory, is charged with a misdemeanor in riot

Ray Epps, a former Marine who became the target of a Jan. 6, 2021, conspiracy theory, has been charged with a misdemeanor in connection with the U.S.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Ray Epps, a former Marine who became the center of a Jan. 6, 2021, conspiracy theory, has been charged with a misdemeanor offense in connection with the U.S. Capitol riot, according to court papers filed Tuesday.
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LOL, wut?
 
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