Bama getting no respect

[81usaf92]

It’s hilarious… once the playoffs were announced a good portion of this board was complaining about “2 loss NCs”. After 10 years no two loss team has ever reached the playoffs. Yet this board has gone crazy for a year over a 2 loss Alabama team being left out.

 

[colbysullivan]

A year from now, I won't be watching any regular season games, too.

There's a reason I don't watch regular season college b-ball - because I'm so old I remember when the Sweet Sixteen is when the tourney BEGAN.

There's a reason I have not seen a SINGLE NFL PLAY this season - because it doesn't matter until the last week.

Baseball is on the verge of losing me after what happened with all the good teams not named Houston this past season.

And college football is about to lose me, too.

And in every case - it's because they expanded the playoffs and turned their regular seasons into the equivalent of spring training in baseball, which I never watched, either.

Polls - which already have 1% meaning - will have 0%.
Bowls - they're going away.


And you know what will NOT go away?
Some penny ante 3-loss team from the SEC whining that "UCF/Boise didn't play as tough a schedule as we did, but they GOT IN THE TOURNAMENT that nobody would have considered us for until College Football went Full Moron!"

We still have teams that cry like babies because they finish 9th in a 14-team conference and have to watch some team get selected 68th for the b-ball tournament over them.

Regular season sports are becoming the most useless form of entertainment in world history.

Baseball is a straight up sham now. The Braves dominated the regular season, but who remembers that now?

 

[colbysullivan]

Maybe. Something was off for sure. The injury didn't seem to affect him that much against UTenn with 49 points and 455 yards passing. It took umpteen blown coverages to lose that game. Had they won it, Bama still goes the the SECC even after losing to LSU.

I was perplexed by it too because it didn't seem to affect him against UT. I can only imagine he re-aggravated it against LSU, he just didn't look the same. AJ went through something similar in 2012 I wanna say.

 

[81usaf92]

Because their bylaws specifically state they are supposed to get the 4 best teams. Last year was the first year that didn't happen. It might happen again this year.

Best is subjective and interchangeable with “deserving”. Alabama’s only case last year was the fact they had Bryce young and could dazzle some ratings and maybe beat Georgia. Other than that Alabama’s case to get in was weak.

 

[colbysullivan]

It’s hilarious… once the playoffs were announced a good portion of this board was complaining about “2 loss NCs”. After 10 years no two loss team has ever reached the playoffs. Yet this board has gone crazy for a year over a 2 loss Alabama team being left out.

That was mostly because people knew the playoffs would never stop expanding once they started. It seems a lot of people don't understand what makes college football great. Here's a hint...it aint the postseason.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Who's to blame for where we sit??? We need to look in the mirror!

Do I think we'd beat Texas right now? Yes, but that game in September counts.

Two straight years we've put ourselves behind the eight ball. We handle our business and quit losing games in the regular season and we'd be sitting at the top.

What's kind of funny to me is the "resume" argument.

A number of our partisans - and God knows I love these people, I really do - but they want to change the subject from "our resume" to "in the future, this is what would happen," as if this was a job interview. And in a way, it SORT OF is, but it sort of isn't.

A friend of mine did a federal prison sentence for ripping off the VA to the tune of $200K. The rest of her life was exemplary, but she did 19 months after cooperating with the investigation. I asked my boss once if she would hire someone who had served time in a federal prison, and she said, "It would depend on what the sentence was for." When I said "financial fraud," she said, "Automatic disqualification."

We are not "quite" to that point with the Texas loss, but we're close because of it. We did pretty much everything else right (the USF debacle is the other ugh moment) - but we may have committed the type crime that costs us, too.

 

[colbysullivan]

Best is subjective and interchangeable with “deserving”. Alabama’s only case last year was the fact they had Bryce young and could dazzle some ratings and maybe beat Georgia. Other than that Alabama’s case to get in was weak.

Only because they can make up any rules and criteria they want. Again, the whole thing is a sham.

 

[STONECOLDSABAN]

A year from now, I won't be watching any regular season games, too.

There's a reason I don't watch regular season college b-ball - because I'm so old I remember when the Sweet Sixteen is when the tourney BEGAN.

There's a reason I have not seen a SINGLE NFL PLAY this season - because it doesn't matter until the last week.

Baseball is on the verge of losing me after what happened with all the good teams not named Houston this past season.

And college football is about to lose me, too.

And in every case - it's because they expanded the playoffs and turned their regular seasons into the equivalent of spring training in baseball, which I never watched, either.

Polls - which already have 1% meaning - will have 0%.
Bowls - they're going away.


And you know what will NOT go away?
Some penny ante 3-loss team from the SEC whining that "UCF/Boise didn't play as tough a schedule as we did, but they GOT IN THE TOURNAMENT that nobody would have considered us for until College Football went Full Moron!"

We still have teams that cry like babies because they finish 9th in a 14-team conference and have to watch some team get selected 68th for the b-ball tournament over them.

Regular season sports are becoming the most useless form of entertainment in world history.

I don't blame you and I can't speak for you. But I'll still watch. Sometimes I wish I didn't care as much as I do.

 

[colbysullivan]

What's kind of funny to me is the "resume" argument.

A number of our partisans - and God knows I love these people, I really do - but they want to change the subject from "our resume" to "in the future, this is what would happen," as if this was a job interview. And in a way, it SORT OF is, but it sort of isn't.

A friend of mine did a federal prison sentence for ripping off the VA to the tune of $200K. The rest of her life was exemplary, but she did 19 months after cooperating with the investigation. I asked my boss once if she would hire someone who had served time in a federal prison, and she said, "It would depend on what the sentence was for." When I said "financial fraud," she said, "Automatic disqualification."

We are not "quite" to that point with the Texas loss, but we're close because of it. We did pretty much everything else right (the USF debacle is the other ugh moment) - but we may have committed the type crime that costs us, too.

It seems we ARE to that point, at least with the people making the decisions. There's simply no other reason we could still be #8. They saw us lose on our home field by 10 points, and that was all they needed to see and they completely wrote us off after that. It's ridiculous. It was fine for Ohio State to lose to a 6-6 Va Tech team in 2014 though (also in week 2 btw).

 

[colbysullivan]

What's kind of funny to me is the "resume" argument.

Also IIRC it was the TV personalities that coined that term. Fans heard the pundits talking about "resumes" and it went off from there. I prefer "body of work" myself.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

The Beavers could do us a huge favor and take Oregon out this weekend.

Yeah, but they COULD have done us one at home, too, and didn't.

And Oregon IS better than Washington.

 

[81usaf92]

That was mostly because people knew the playoffs would never stop expanding once they started. It seems a lot of people don't understand what makes college football great. Here's a hint...it aint the postseason.

Then why are you so concerned about us getting left out?

What makes college football great and profitable is the controversy of who is the best team. But this never ending desire to find a true champion out of 100+ teams has finally forced college football into a NFL type system. It started with the bowl alliance, got worse with the BCS and plus one playoff systems, and is finally at 12.

 

[92tide]

Ladd McConkey is most likely out for the season for Georgia. Just letting people know that here.

dang, what happened? i only saw a small bit of y’all’s game

 

[colbysullivan]

Then why are you so concerned about us getting left out?

I'm concerned with the regular season being severely devalued with the 12-team playoff. And again, that is my problem with casual fans (not directed at anyone here). They simply don't understand what makes college football great.

 

[MetaZeus]

Why? Because Alabama can’t always win it?

Or, because you just said yourself that the committee is intentionally fixing playoff spots to garner profits. That would classify the committee and their rankings as a sham.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

It seems we ARE to that point, at least with the people making the decisions. There's simply no other reason we could still be #8. They saw us lose on our home field by 10 points, and that was all they needed to see and they completely wrote us off after that. It's ridiculous. It was fine for Ohio State to lose to a 6-6 Va Tech team in 2014 though (also in week 2 btw).

I guess I'm not on ignore any longer.

But you're only telling the parts of the story that support the narrative you want to endorse.

Here's the parts you don't mention that are quite relevant to the discussion:

1) Ohio State started at #16, the SECOND LOWEST RATED 1-loss team in P5 (ahead of Utah) BECAUSE of that loss to Va Tech.

2) They moved up two spots the next week- when Georgia lost to Florida and Arizona lost to UCLA.

3) The next week, they jumped SIX spots to #8. Why?
a) they beat #8 Michigan State
b) #3 Auburn lost to Texas A/M
c) #9 Kansas State lost to TCU

Keep in mind, Ohio State even at #8 was simply ahead of ALL of the 2-loss teams. The only one-loss P5 teams behind the Buckeyes at that point were Nebraska (who had LOST to Michigan State and thus had to be behind them) and Duke (who had played one good team, Ga Tech)

4) they moved up to #6 when they beat #25 Minnesota on the road.

Even at this point, there were SIX one-loss teams and Ohio State was FIFTH among those!!!
They moved ahead of Baylor, who was idle - but that same thing had happened to other teams in 2014, including Nebraska: don't play and someone else looks good, lose your spot.

5) They moved up to #5 when Mississippi State lost to Ole Miss.

Now to this point, OHIO STATE ONLY MOVED UP when teams AHEAD OF THEM LOST!!! Three of the six spots they jumped on that one poll were due to the two losses and they were also rewarded for beating a top 10 team (Sparty).

6) Then they blew out Wisconsin, 59-0, and moved up to #4.

Now, this is where it gets controversial, but guess what?
If Alabama can plow Georgia, 59-0, they're going to be in the playoff.

Now, what has happened THIS year by comparison???
1) Alabama started at #8.
2) Nobody ahead of them has lost.
3) Alabama has not beaten anybody in the Top Ten.

Comparing us to 2014 Ohio State as if those are the same is ludicrous.
If Va Tech had been the roadblock to the Buckeyes, it likely ends the same way for them.

Ohio State DID have the "worst loss" of the group, but in the final month of the season, they beat #8, beat #25 on the road, and plowed #13 by 59 points WITH A BACKUP QB in a neutral site game.

 

[TexasBama]

It’s hilarious… once the playoffs were announced a good portion of this board was complaining about “2 loss NCs”. After 10 years no two loss team has ever reached the playoffs. Yet this board has gone crazy for a year over a 2 loss Alabama team being left out.

Do you think TCU was a better team than Bama last year?

 

[81usaf92]

I'm concerned with the regular season being severely devalued with the 12-team playoff. And again, that is my problem with casual fans (not directed at anyone here). They simply don't understand what makes college football great.

You do realize that “casual” fans are needed for the survival of college football. Probably more so than die harders.

One thing that irks me, among many, about Pate is that he loves to throw the “casual” comment out always in the negative and his diehard followers love to boost their egos by repeating it. Without casual fans college football simply doesn’t exist because is ceases to be profitable. Don’t believe me… go to UA for a semester in the fall and you’ll be shocked at how much of the student population isn’t an Alabama fan or a football fan at all. College football is going to have to make changes or die because future generations are finding it to be less and less desirable.

 

[MetaZeus]

I'm concerned with the regular season being severely devalued with the 12-team playoff. And again, that is my problem with casual fans (not directed at anyone here). They simply don't understand what makes college football great.

I agree. All expanding the playoffs is doing is kicking the can down the road and devaluing the regular season. Heck, we couldn't even get the "12 team playoff" format correct. It's like people are behind the scenes actively trying to murder college football.

 

[81usaf92]

Do you think TCU was a better team than Bama last year?

Doesn’t matter if I do or don’t. It doesn’t change the fact that Alabama didn’t deserve to be in.

If everyone wants to go on this “you are ruining the regular season” tangent then how is rewarding a 13-0 Georgia with playing a 2 loss Alabama team not doing that exact thing.