News Article: Will FSU snub Orange Bowl?

[BamaMoon]

No way. They need that $ for their ACC buyout.

For the litigation against the CFP too!

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Ah, it brings out the poet in me.

FSU is out of the playoffs
and they really see no uptakes.
"We're unbeaten!" they cried,
and the committee replied,
"That's what you get for playing cupcakes!"

and looked bad doing it

 

[mrusso]

I hope they do, just to prove how idiotic this all is. If they even threaten to boycott the bowl, I'm using whatever means I have at my disposal as the head of the Orange Bowl to find a team that wants to be there.

You wanted money for the ACC buyout in the summer, you flirted leaving your conference....now you're threatening to keep a huge payout for conference from happening? The ACC commish needs to nip this in bud, but he's joined the pity party along with Florida politicians.

You're in a system with rules, but when you don't get your way you want to change the rules. That's toddler level intelligence.

Weren't there some Fl politicians complaining about the loss of revenue due to not being selected for the CFP? Hmmm....

 

[MOAN]

If FSU beats Georgia and Bama or Texas wins the playoff championship, then FSU would be the only undefeated power 5 team in the nation. Why couldn't they be voted national champs by the AP or Coaches poll?? What about the "Peoples" national championship Auburn claimed lol!!!!

 

[GulfCoastTider]

If FSU beats Georgia and Bama or Texas wins the playoff championship, then FSU would be the only undefeated power 5 team in the nation. Why couldn't they be voted national champs by the AP or Coaches poll?? What about the "Peoples" national championship Auburn claimed lol!!!!

If I were Mike Norvell, I'd squeeze every bit of juice out of this.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

“The voters have spoken,” said a clearly disappointed Bryant. “I don’t agree but that’s that. I congratulate two great teams with two great coaches.”
(Keith Dunnavant, "The Missing Ring," 386, Google Books version)


"Several players stopped by to see the boss to petition him to award rings commemorating the Crimson Tide’s SEC championship, but he explained what the players already knew: Alabama stood for the pursuit of the big prize. Rewarding anything less—even considering the unfairness of the situation—would have undermined the whole program. Telling them no was not the act of a gruff father figure denying his players a reward as some sort of punishment. Instead, it was a symbol of his respect for all the sacrifices they had made to produce a perfect season, and he was not about to water down the accomplishment by trying to diminish their feelings of disappointment, which he saw as a critical part of the whole process, for those players and the athletes yet to come."
(Ibid., 417)

"Indeed, the classy way Bryant dealt with the situation struck a powerful chord with his team and Alabama fans everywhere. He was deeply hurt by the whole affair, which he took as a personal assault on everything he stood for, but he did not rant or rave or wage a public relations battle through the media. He took it like a man. Even though he said he disagreed with the decision, Bryant congratulated both Notre Dame and Michigan State, and then moved on to the business of competing once more for the national championship in 1967, no doubt wondering how he would be able to motivate his next team to chase the big prize under the circumstances, when the national championship suddenly seemed more theoretical than tangible."
(Ibid., 417)

 

[TideEngineer08]

“The voters have spoken,” said a clearly disappointed Bryant. “I don’t agree but that’s that. I congratulate two great teams with two great coaches.”
(Keith Dunnavant, "The Missing Ring," 386, Google Books version)


"Several players stopped by to see the boss to petition him to award rings commemorating the Crimson Tide’s SEC championship, but he explained what the players already knew: Alabama stood for the pursuit of the big prize. Rewarding anything less—even considering the unfairness of the situation—would have undermined the whole program. Telling them no was not the act of a gruff father figure denying his players a reward as some sort of punishment. Instead, it was a symbol of his respect for all the sacrifices they had made to produce a perfect season, and he was not about to water down the accomplishment by trying to diminish their feelings of disappointment, which he saw as a critical part of the whole process, for those players and the athletes yet to come."
(Ibid., 417)

"Indeed, the classy way Bryant dealt with the situation struck a powerful chord with his team and Alabama fans everywhere. He was deeply hurt by the whole affair, which he took as a personal assault on everything he stood for, but he did not rant or rave or wage a public relations battle through the media. He took it like a man. Even though he said he disagreed with the decision, Bryant congratulated both Notre Dame and Michigan State, and then moved on to the business of competing once more for the national championship in 1967, no doubt wondering how he would be able to motivate his next team to chase the big prize under the circumstances, when the national championship suddenly seemed more theoretical than tangible."
(Ibid., 417)

They simply don’t make them like this anymore.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I thought they wanted to prove that they should have been chosen. I’d be playing that up if I were Norvell and the players. Seems like they are more interested in being victims. It’s already old. Look at Bam’s approach last year…Do that and prepare for the future!!!!

They knew when their QB went down and they rolled out two crap shows of offense the last two games what was going to happen wrt the playoff rankings. The over-the-top reaction proves to me they knew they were getting bumped.

 

[crimsonaudio]

“The voters have spoken,” said a clearly disappointed Bryant. “I don’t agree but that’s that. I congratulate two great teams with two great coaches.”
(Keith Dunnavant, "The Missing Ring," 386, Google Books version)

Can you imagine Bryant (or Saban) threatening lawsuits like a petulant child over being left out? Heck Saban had a claim last year and didn't whine like this Free Shoes group.

 

[Cruloc]

There could also be future ramifications as well if they do that, beginning as early as next season. People with power normally have looooooong memories and if they think they got snubbed by the selection process this season. Tick off the wrong people and you could see yourself getting "explained out of" next year's rankings, purposively given a lower ranking to make it harder.

Oh that would be great if next FSU is ranked 13th or 14th in the next to last ranking. No, I'm not saying penultimate rankings....because I'm not trying to use big words to get ratings.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Can you imagine Bryant (or Saban) threatening lawsuits like a petulant child over being left out? Heck Saban had a claim last year and didn't whine like this Free Shoes group.

To be fair, Saban had a two-loss team and FSU is undefeated, but your point is still correct.

Of course, Norvell has not fallen to the level of Oregon Coach Mike Bellotti in 2001......yet:

" I liken the BCS to a bad disease, like cancer..."

He lost any sympathy he may have had with that line, although there was more to the story.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

One thing I'm seeing out there is ludicrous, and I'm not a legal eagle:

"FSU should refuse to play, when they're sued, they should countersue over the CFP."

There's this whole "the things we might find during discovery" argument out there...as if the CFP or the conferences or whomever DON'T ALREADY HAVE LAWYERS who can tell them how close to the line they can tread.

And again - the ACC had more relationships with people on the selection committee than the SEC did.
A former ACC player and AD (Gladchuck, and yes, I know they weren't in the ACC then), a former ACC coach (Grobe), and the Miami AD (Sayler) made up nearly 1/3 of the 13 members.

 

[BamaFanInTally]

This would be the single dumbest move by a university if this turns out to be true. Give the $$ they would earn to the SEC.

 

[crimsonaudio]

And again - the ACC had more relationships with people on the selection committee than the SEC did.
A former ACC player and AD (Gladchuck, and yes, I know they weren't in the ACC then), a former ACC coach (Grobe), and the Miami AD (Sayler) made up nearly 1/3 of the 13 members.

Not to mention the Michigan AD, who would likely be far more biased towards FSU as a potential opponent than Bama.

 

[BamaFanInTally]

Seems like an expensive way to avoid getting their butt handed to them by UGA. But if they want to massively "opt out" and feel froggy, they should jump.

 

[twofbyc]

Some quality players from both teams might not be playing - not sure what the game will look like anyway.

 

[CrimsonTheory]

Oh....I see FSU is still in the middle of their tantrum. Cool, cool. Let me know when they want to act like an adult.

 

[TitleWave]

They need the dough for their ACC exit fee and for the big C-USA joining party to come.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Not to mention the Michigan AD, who would likely be far more biased towards FSU as a potential opponent than Bama.

I think what's funny is the references - correct btw - to the coaches of whom the "obvious" #1 would rather "not" play is that Jim Grobe, the former ACC coach at Wake and potential Alabama hire, is likely one of the coaches who said that along with Chris Ault.

Of course, then it becomes, "He's just biased against FSU because we beat him so badly so long."

That's my problem with all the conspiracy theory nonsense about the committee; if evidence WAS produced the committee didn't do anything untoward, you simply invert the argument 180 degrees and then still insist you were correct.

"The committee was biased against Alabama!"
(It had 3 ACC connections and one SEC)

"Yeah, and one was from Miami, who hates us and is biased against us, and BC and Wake hate us because we beat them so much."

Lest anyone think this is an FSU thing, this kind of ridiculous pivot is part and parcel of 85% of college football fans of a team everywhere.

 

[Ledsteplin]

Surely this is nothing more than rumor of the false kind, perpetuated by disgruntled fandom.