Alabama QBs in 2024

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Milroe improved steadily throughout the season this year. I think a lot of you are being too hard on Jalen. I expect he'll get even better this off season -- with coaching and drills.

Bama needs a better tougher OL. (Portal? Recruiting? Development? Any and/or all!)

That will fix a LOT of the issues.
Can’t we just get Joe Pendry back? And for that matter Burton Burns and Bo Davis? 😩
 
Are we talking about the qb sneak because I mean that’s something every college qb is supposed to be able to execute and that would be to the credit of the OL again seeing as they create the push to get it.
You’re the one that tried to break each failure down by position group assigning blame of each drive to one of the other I just said your argument is that 1/6 people was the reason for 4/8drives failing that’s not a good argument in favor of the 1.

JM actually rushed on both 2nd and 3rd down, gaining 5 yards in the process. This extended the drive and on the ensuing first down, the RB had a nice carry for a 34yd TD. You've completely missed the original point I was attempting to make. Let's just agree to disagree on whatever it is you think we're arguing about.
 
When JM had clean snaps and decent protection, we beat Georgia. JM did not play particularly well that night. But he played well enough to beat Georgia. The next game, the O-Line played poorly, and we lost to Michigan in OT. Are you saying that the O-Line's mistakes did not impact the game by a single point in regulation? Not one point? Come on man, they were responsible for three stalled drives and 16 sacks/TFL.

I did not say JM played well. I said he played well enough to win, provided he had clean snaps and decent protection.

Meh, the defensive game plans for UGA and Michigan were completely different. One played less into Jalens weaknesses while the other exploited every weakness he has.

The moment Jalen throws a hot route over a blitz or shifts a RB in protection or hits timing routes or slants on a regular basis is the moment defenses don't play Bama like Michigan did.
 
We need to stop with this bad snaps and protection problem stuff. I get it, some snaps were bad and there were breakdowns in the Oline. That happens to every QB in the country. What we should be talking about is when he had good snaps and protection was he able to run the “Alabama” offense?? You know, the one that has produced Heisman winners at QB AND WR in the last 5 years. The offense had to be built around him instead of built around the TEAM. That’s not a good thing for winning championships and it’s also not a good thing for recruiting.
JM, TS, DL, JS, it doesn’t matter who wins the job, it just matters that we get back to playing Alabama football on that side of the ball.

Have you listened to CNS's post-game press conference or his interview with MacAfee today? He specifically references these as issues that impacted the QB, but that we're not the QB's fault.

General question. Does it matter what our coaching staff says or does? Do their actions and statements carry any weight? Have you considered whether their decisions are based on information, expertise, and intuition that you, as someone extremal to the program, do not have or possesses?

This leads me to a more direct question. Grogan11 - what makes you such an expert on how to build a "winning program"? Built a few have you? The reason I believe in JM is because CNS clearly believes in JM. I know this because of what CNS says and what he does. He uses the media to send messages to his players. When CNS says that a player has transformed or improved in one area or another, you know it's a fact because if wasn't, his teammates would know it, and the platform would lose credibility. In addition to this, I know that JM has worked very hard for three years to earn the QB1 position at Alabama.
 
Have you listened to CNS's post-game press conference or his interview with MacAfee today? He specifically references these as issues that impacted the QB, but that we're not the QB's fault.

General question. Does it matter what our coaching staff says or does? Do their actions and statements carry any weight? Have you considered whether their decisions are based on information, expertise, and intuition that you, as someone extremal to the program, do not have or possesses?

This leads me to a more direct question. Grogan11 - what makes you such an expert on how to build a "winning program"? Built a few have you? The reason I believe in JM is because CNS clearly believes in JM. I know this because of what CNS says and what he does. He uses the media to send messages to his players. When CNS says that a player has transformed or improved in one area or another, you know it's a fact because if wasn't, his teammates would know it, and the platform would lose credibility. In addition to this, I know that JM has worked very hard for three years to earn the QB1 position at Alabama.


what Saban says and the truth can differ. He is also the same person that kept Golding and O’Brien.

I say this in tongue and cheek
 
what Saban says and the truth can differ. He is also the same person that kept Golding and O’Brien.

How many coordinators have cycled through Tuscaloosa? Would you say at least a few have worked out pretty good? Maybe you can extend CNS the benefit of the doubt for this transgression? They cannot all be winners.
 
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How many coordinators have cycled through Tuscaloosa? Would you say at least a few have worked out pretty good? Maybe you can extend CNS the benefit of the doubt for this transgression? They cannot all be winners.

lol man you are taking a lot of this personal defending like Milroe is your kid and Saban is family. I was mostly egging you on hence the tongue in cheek. But no I don’t take everything he says as the whole thing especially when you know how much he protects players and staff.
 
lol man you are taking a lot of this personal defending like Milroe is your kid and Saban is family. I was mostly egging you on hence the tongue in cheek. But no I don’t take everything he says as the whole thing especially when you know how much he protects players and staff.
Love Saban, but he protected Golding way to long.
 
lol man you are taking a lot of this personal defending like Milroe is your kid and Saban is family. I was mostly egging you on hence the tongue in cheek. But no I don’t take everything he says as the whole thing especially when you know how much he protects players and staff.

I'm really just having fun with you guys at this point. It's not personal. I am done trying to politely convince this lynch mob of anything. You guys do you, just don't key the kids car.
 
Have you listened to CNS's post-game press conference or his interview with MacAfee today? He specifically references these as issues that impacted the QB, but that we're not the QB's fault.

General question. Does it matter what our coaching staff says or does? Do their actions and statements carry any weight? Have you considered whether their decisions are based on information, expertise, and intuition that you, as someone extremal to the program, do not have or possesses?

This leads me to a more direct question. Grogan11 - what makes you such an expert on how to build a "winning program"? Built a few have you? The reason I believe in JM is because CNS clearly believes in JM. I know this because of what CNS says and what he does. He uses the media to send messages to his players. When CNS says that a player has transformed or improved in one area or another, you know it's a fact because if wasn't, his teammates would know it, and the platform would lose credibility. In addition to this, I know that JM has worked very hard for three years to earn the QB1 position at Alabama.
I’m not sure why you’re so fired up about what I wrote but if you actually believe everything a coach says in the media I really don’t know what to say. Definitely not trying to argue about it and I wish you well. I hope Santa Claus brings you everything you ask for this year.
 
Have you listened to CNS's post-game press conference or his interview with MacAfee today? He specifically references these as issues that impacted the QB, but that we're not the QB's fault.

General question. Does it matter what our coaching staff says or does? Do their actions and statements carry any weight? Have you considered whether their decisions are based on information, expertise, and intuition that you, as someone extremal to the program, do not have or possesses?

This leads me to a more direct question. Grogan11 - what makes you such an expert on how to build a "winning program"? Built a few have you? The reason I believe in JM is because CNS clearly believes in JM. I know this because of what CNS says and what he does. He uses the media to send messages to his players. When CNS says that a player has transformed or improved in one area or another, you know it's a fact because if wasn't, his teammates would know it, and the platform would lose credibility. In addition to this, I know that JM has worked very hard for three years to earn the QB1 position at Alabama.

You also have to remember though…. Saban won’t throw anyone under the bus even if they deserve it. Saban rarely publicly reveals issues that are internal. He is the professional and the adult. There is a sharp contrast between how he handles interviews and how someone like Milroe handles interviews. You rarely know for sure what Saban what CNS is truly thinking about a situation even though there are many on here that think they do.

Point is that Saban isn’t going to stoop to the level of saying his coordinators, players, or the refs screwed up even if it is the truth. He always takes the blame and gives the glory to the players and staff. He is the polar opposite of Hugh Freeze and Steve Spurrier who have no qualms at telling everything to an open microphone about their program.
 
I’m not sure why you’re so fired up about what I wrote but if you actually believe everything a coach says in the media I really don’t know what to say. Definitely not trying to argue about it and I wish you well. I hope Santa Claus brings you everything you ask for this year.

No worries. I’m not fired up. I apologize if that came across as a bit intense.
 
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When JM had clean snaps and decent protection, we beat Georgia. JM did not play particularly well that night. But he played well enough to beat Georgia. The next game, the O-Line played poorly, and we lost to Michigan in OT. Are you saying that the O-Line's mistakes did not impact the game by a single point in regulation? Not one point? Come on man, they were responsible for three stalled drives and 16 sacks/TFL.

I did not say JM played well. I said he played well enough to win, provided he had clean snaps and decent protection.
Don't you think that JM was to blame for some of those missed snaps? How many times did this happen to Bryce?
 
If a good QB knows how to read defenses wouldn't he be able to counter act a blitz/zone defense? Step up in pocket vs step back, etc... "oh you're pressuring me. Then I know my receiver B will be open after the slant, guess I'll adjust my protection, step up in pocket, and quick release."

but JM didn't do that kind of stuff hence why I think there will be a QB battle this off season.
 
You also have to remember though…. Saban won’t throw anyone under the bus even if they deserve it. Saban rarely publicly reveals issues that are internal. He is the professional and the adult. There is a sharp contrast between how he handles interviews and how someone like Milroe handles interviews. You rarely know for sure what Saban what CNS is truly thinking about a situation even though there are many on here that think they do.

Point is that Saban isn’t going to stoop to the level of saying his coordinators, players, or the refs screwed up even if it is the truth. He always takes the blame and gives the glory to the players and staff. He is the polar opposite of Hugh Freeze and Steve Spurrier who have no qualms at telling everything to an open microphone about their program.
Just as Coach Bryant always held himself responsible for losses.
 
Have you listened to CNS's post-game press conference or his interview with MacAfee today? He specifically references these as issues that impacted the QB, but that we're not the QB's fault.

General question. Does it matter what our coaching staff says or does? Do their actions and statements carry any weight? Have you considered whether their decisions are based on information, expertise, and intuition that you, as someone extremal to the program, do not have or possesses?

This leads me to a more direct question. Grogan11 - what makes you such an expert on how to build a "winning program"? Built a few have you? The reason I believe in JM is because CNS clearly believes in JM. I know this because of what CNS says and what he does. He uses the media to send messages to his players. When CNS says that a player has transformed or improved in one area or another, you know it's a fact because if wasn't, his teammates would know it, and the platform would lose credibility. In addition to this, I know that JM has worked very hard for three years to earn the QB1 position at Alabama.
You don't have to be an expert in anything to have an opinion on it.
 
Really depends on how hard Milroe works in the off season. If I were Saban I would tell him exactly where he needs to improve to remain the starting QB. If he feels like he is above competition, let him leave.

No offense, but if we're waiting till the off season to tell him where he is coming up short then that's another glaring problem.
Of course, it appears that the coaches had to tell our QB he was doing some good things before he got motivated enough to work harder so.........
 
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