Jalen will be fine. Not perfect. But he'll win games. We do have one too many quarterbacks. Not sure they'll all want to stick around. One could go. That might be a good thing for the player. Maybe he lands where he can play.
Alabama QBs in 2024
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But we've heard other QBs are getting time with the 1s too.
So what does it imply? Is Jalen only taking snaps with 1s?
It's just hard to believe at a reset like we are experiencing that only Jalen would get snaps with the 1st team exclusively. JMO
This discussion on Milroe has continued through the off season and spring practice. Some here have said that TS has a much higher ceiling and I agree with that completely.
I have never seen a QB at an advanced level with as poor of a ball position when throwing the ball in short and medium routes than JM. If anyone doesn't believe that look at some of Quinn Ewers film on how he spins and places the ball on short throws. If he isn't a number one draft pick I don't know who is.
It doesn't matter at all what I think we are all forced to wait and see how DeBoer manages his QB situation.
I couldn't possibly agree more. I think that many overlook the fact that this is year 4 for Milroe. Bryc, Mac, Tua, and Hurts were probably more advanced in their freshman year than Milroe is now.
His God given talent is amazing but he needs to be a better passer and much better at decision making. MUCH BETTER!!!
I sincerely believe that he cannot become a good passer from where he is now. He may improve but he will never be near the the top in the country in any measures of passing effectiveness.
I was a high school tennis coach for 19 years. My approach, with my singles players was to show them how to make their decision-making more automatic. (The players who wanted to be creative and "surprise" their opponents drove me batty. That strategy never lasted.)
Those of you who really know quarterbacking, is it not possible to reduce the progressions to a "system"? Would such a system not be less complicated to coach ... and for a QB to learn?
Yes, as long as the defenses you're facing simplify accordingly. It is possible to beat more complex defenses with simplicity, but there is also a point where simplifying an offense too much can make it very easy for a defense to stop. Athleticism can only go so far.
Yeah, not implying CKD is being misleading but that it's been said more than once that other players are ALSO getting reps with 1s. The inference is that JM may only be getting reps with 1s, but others are too part of the time.
He's supposed to be working on his mechanics and he needs to for sure. Very awkward positions in his throwing motion...even including how he hold the ball.
You mentioned Ewers short passes. What always impressed me about Tua's short passes is how tightly he could spin it but deliver with such touch that guys rarely dropped a short pass of his. Of course, his slant was his signature throw. Just perfect!
JH will never have those fundamentals. It's too late just like my golf swing will never look like Tigers.
Good news is JM can still play at a high level without great mechanics IF he can learn to do the things he struggled with last year, which are very well documented.
Can he? Million dollar question!
I hope you are correct, He needs to improve a lot. His stats aren't as positive as some think.
His passing and rushing #'s need to be close to double that of last year. I think he needs to be a real run threat in order to thrive as a passer since he's not a pure drop back passer.
CKD has the reputation to be a great QB coach. Hopefull JM can get there!
I have seen guys in high school baseball who developed poor throwing mechanics. Even at 15 years old it requires enormous commitment to daily practice to improve. It may be the fact that they are not athletic and lack the proprioception required to begin with.
I understand that with is size and strength Jalen can improve his performance overall provided he matures enough to not have the "deer in the headlights" look in critical situations such as the two critical across the line of scrimage throws against Auburn.
Last season Burton made some catches, such as the one off his face mask against Georgia in the end zone. Then Bond made the catch at Auburn and scooped a knee high lob running full speed to gain a critical 1st down against Georgia. Who are the receivers to bail him out this year? Certainly it will be seldom to ther mis-matched open tight end across the middle.
Interestingly, a friend said Jermain Burton was appearing in a pro-day event recently and apparently you can choose the QB you want throwing to you. Guess who he had throwing to him? It was Ty Simpson.
It was something that really would grind my gears in youth baseball. I would have a kid on my team for the first time at 11 or 12 years old with a bunch of talent but fundamentally poor in fielding/throwing mechanics….and then find out the kid had been playing since he was five years old. In most cases, none of the previous coaches had even attempted to correct or work on correcting it. Even by 12 years old, the “habit” gets pretty firmly ingrained. When the pressure is on, generally the player will revert to what is most comfortable, which is the “bad habit”.
Can Jalen clean it up? Certainly. But exactly how much is the big question.
Tua might be the best pure thrower I’ve ever seen at the college level.
I get that the QBR makes it look ok, but the numbers are not really very good.
Across FBS, those numbers rate him at:
43rd best in passing yards
33rd in TDs
85th in number of attempts
71st in completions
30th in completion percent.
Those are not really all that good.
That's also the second lowest passing output in a season (just barely edging out Hurts second season) we have had in the last 10+ years.
add to that - 3rd most sacked QB, and given he had the slowest snap to throw average in all of FBS and the 6th worst pressure to sack ratio in FBS, a big chunk of those sacks are on him versus the OL.
In other words, that last time we had a QB struggle to this degree as a passer (Hurts was a far superior runner to Milroe), he lost the starting job. Not predicting what will happen this time around, but it's a long way to go to be good for Milroe and whoever wins the job needs to be an order of magnitude better than the '23 season.
If true - that's pretty telling, at least as far as pure passing goes...
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