Alabama QBs in 2024

[RollTide_HTTR]

I guess I didn't see the aspect of being hard to bring down because he wasn't really an aggressive runner, imo.

100% agreed with him not being an aggressive runner he's really indecisive. But there were times when he would break out of sacks and at least a couple runs where he was running horizontally and broke some tackles to get to the outside.

But you're right he's not aggressive as a runner and so we don't see those skills often enough although you don't want him to be overaggressive either. He really needs to commit to running when it's time to run though sometimes it looks like he's second guessing or overthinking it when he runs.

 

[colbysullivan]

Someone should tell Saban and DeBoer that because they clearly think otherwise

You saw what happened when Saban played another QB. The OL threw a hissy fit. Not much he could do.

 

[davefrat]

You saw what happened when Saban played another QB. The OL threw a hissy fit. Not much he could do.

Do you honestly believe that DeBoer is just paying lip service to Milroe out of fear of a mutiny in the locker room?

IF that’s true, then we can probably start folding up the tent on this staff and prepare for disaster.

 

[colbysullivan]

Do you honestly believe that DeBoer is just paying lip service to Milroe out of fear of a mutiny in the locker room?

IF that’s true, then we can probably start folding up the tent on this staff and prepare for disaster.

Not at all. He’s simply saying what any good coach would say in his situation. Bottom line, if Milroe hasn’t improved from last season, then he won’t be our problem much longer. If he has improved, then he will be the rest of the country’s problem.

 

[davefrat]

Not at all. He’s simply saying what any good coach would say in his situation. Bottom line, if Milroe hasn’t improved from last season, then he won’t be our problem much longer. If he has improved, then he will be the rest of the country’s problem.

Is it even a slightly remote possibility that he actually believes Milroe is a good QB?

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

You saw what happened when Saban played another QB. The OL threw a hissy fit. Not much he could do.

So, why was Milroe the backup to Bryce, and then took the first reps throughout all of spring and fall, and then he started the first few games?

Even if we believe Saban had no choice after USF how do we explain everything before that?

Edit: Just checked the roster can confirm Milroe is in fact a QB.

 

[colbysullivan]

Is it even a slightly remote possibility that he actually believes Milroe is a good QB?

I mean, sure. He certainly wouldn’t be the only one. Milroe is one of the favorites to win the Heisman after all. But again, I firmly believe people are in love with the IDEA of Milroe, rather than the actual results. He’s Anthony Richardson 2.0.

 

[The Ols]

So, why was Milroe the backup to Bryce, and then took the first reps throughout all of spring and fall, and then he started the first few games?

Even if we believe Saban had no choice after USF how do we explain everything before that?

Edit: Just checked the roster can confirm Mirloe is in fact a QB.

Mirloe goes well w/Italian…

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Is it even a slightly remote possibility that he actually believes Milroe is a good QB?

When a coach has a kid as physically talented as Milroe, they normally exhaust every avenue to make it work with him before moving on to the next guy. In other words, the player's superior physical traits afford him a much longer leash than someone who doesn't have that type of physical talent. Because a coach knows he cannot coach more athleticism into the quarterback, he can coach fundamentals of the game and make an effort to improve that aspect. So, most coaches exhaust all coaching avenues before "giving up" on a kid with elite physical traits. This maybe where CKD is in the evaluation process with Milroe.

But look, until Milroe, Simpson or whoever it is proves they can do it in a game, it doesn't matter. That's why I'm not getting caught up into Milroe's working on this or that, or looking good in drills, etc. That crap doesn't mean a hill of beans if he gets in the game and still has the same issues he did last season. And the same goes for the other quarterbacks. Real games separate the wheat from the tares.

 

[davefrat]

I mean, sure. He certainly wouldn’t be the only one. Milroe is one of the favorites to win the Heisman after all. But again, I firmly believe people are in love with the IDEA of Milroe, rather than the actual results. He’s Anthony Richardson 2.0.

I’m not in love with Milroe and I want the best player to get the job.

But it seems there are as many who are in love with the idea that Milroe has no business playing QB.

Seems to me the truth probably lies somewhere in between and a lot of people are mostly wedded to their own thoughts on the subject one way or the other.

 

[Cruloc]

Is it even a slightly remote possibility that he actually believes Milroe is a good QB?

No coach is going to dog out any single player to the media...especially before he's even coached his first scrimmage.

Once the lights come on and Milroe has to do QB things.....not just make throws in practice with no pressure.....that's when we'll see what the staff thinks of their QB's.

Its great that Milroe is working on his mechanics (because they are bad)....but the true test of his skills will be how far he's progressed when he's in live action vs a defense. DeBoer's offense requires a QB with great skills in the exact area where Milroe is weakest.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

I mean, sure. He certainly wouldn’t be the only one. Milroe is one of the favorites to win the Heisman after all. But again, I firmly believe people are in love with the IDEA of Milroe, rather than the actual results. He’s Anthony Richardson 2.0.

I was thinking Nick Marshall 2.0...

 

[mlh]

The first scrimmage is Thursday. I think that will tell us a lot.

OTOH, the experts here on Tidefans have determined that Milroe is not a QB. We've also learned that he's not a good runner, so RB is not where he should play. What's left - Tight End? Defensive End? Maybe Outside Linebacker?

 

[UAH]

He has the lowest football IQ of any player I’ve ever seen at this level. He runs when he should throw. He throws when he should run. He falls on bad snaps when nobody is within 10 yards of him. He has zero awareness of the first down marker. He runs with the ball in his right hand exclusively. He throws passes five yards beyond the line of scrimmage. He holds the ball and holds the ball and holds the ball in the pocket. He escapes the pocket into the edge rushers instead of climbing it. He takes sacks that kill drives instead of throwing the ball away. He throws bounce passes to receivers instead of taking a knee to run the clock out. That’s not even getting into reading defenses pre and post snap. Let’s hope these are some of the things that are on his 3 AM agenda.

We see it very much the same. It is not possible that all the coaches did not see what you outlined. CNS chose to emphasize his athleticism and one could conjecture that he chose not to deal with the obvious team resistance he saw in South Florida. DeBoer has much the same issue and it will be very interesting how he chooses to deal with it!

 

[TiderJack]

The first scrimmage is Thursday. I think that will tell us a lot.

OTOH, the experts here on Tidefans have determined that Milroe is not a QB. We've also learned that he's not a good runner, so RB is not where he should play. What's left - Tight End? Defensive End? Maybe Outside Linebacker?

Seems he is not an athlete at all and should be in medical school. Thanks again to our many experts who coach for a living for their professional input on our QB situation .

 

[Bama9001]

The 'football IQ' thing is a real issue. We've all seen Milroe struggle. I was on the Simpson bandwagon until he dropped that ball before crossing the goal line. I'm guessing that was more of a maturity thing but if you're not mature it looks a lot like low football IQ.

We need to let this play out...I have a lot of faith in DeBoer. Constantly dogging any of our QBs has to be about the least productive thing we can do. I fully expect this will all shake out in the scrimmages.

I wouldn't base ANYBODY's potential for playing time on assessments and decisions CNS (and staff) made in his last 2-3 years. BOB? Golding? Rees? Marrone, or whoever that was pretending to coach the OL?

 

[davefrat]

The first scrimmage is Thursday. I think that will tell us a lot.

OTOH, the experts here on Tidefans have determined that Milroe is not a QB. We've also learned that he's not a good runner, so RB is not where he should play. What's left - Tight End? Defensive End? Maybe Outside Linebacker?

He could go 40/40 for 600 yards and 10 TD's consisting of short, intermediate and long balls and many of the same people would double down and say it means nothing because it's just practice.

 

[davefrat]

Seems he is not an athlete at all and should be in medical school. Thanks again to our many experts who coach for a living for their professional input on our QB situation .

Rumor is he's transferring to UAB after spring practice to enter their nano-brain surgery program.

 

[gtgilbert]

So, why was Milroe the backup to Bryce, and then took the first reps throughout all of spring and fall, and then he started the first few games?

Even if we believe Saban had no choice after USF how do we explain everything before that?

Edit: Just checked the roster can confirm Milroe is in fact a QB.

well, he was Youngs backup because the only other option was a true freshman. that true freshman did play more and make more passes in relief than Milroe did as a true freshman though.

Then in Spring, the first team reps were split evenly with Simpson. Summer was split with Buchner and Simpson.

USF just made visible to the fans what the tone and undercurrent of the team was. One guy 'won the team' and it was clear some of them were not going to play for anyone else.

 

[BamaMoon]

Probably not. But again saying he's not a good runner is hyperbolic. I disagree that he's not hard to bring down, at times he's proven pretty difficult to bring down. Again he's not Lamar or Cam and could definitely use some improvement as a runner.

I guess I didn't see the aspect of being hard to bring down because he wasn't really an aggressive runner, imo.

It's the "type" of run that we need to identify.

If he's north/south he's incredibly fast and somewhat elusive.

But if he's moving east/west he's usually probing for a running lane and tends to not see them very well and at those times he's easily brought down. Sometimes by a shoe string even.

He'd never make a good running back for some of the same reasons he struggles at QB. I think he's way below average in his field vision. I don't think he's got great peripheral vision and he has to really see something straight head to see it and even then he's slow to react.

I think it affects his willingness to take off and run (probably why CTR called more designed run plays for him later in the year) and it also affects his short/intermediate throws because there's more traffic to sort thru.

It also might be why he loves the long ball so much. There's not nearly as much traffic to "see" and sort thru 40-50 yards downfield.

JMO.