Alabama QBs in 2024

[RollTide_HTTR]

It's too early to say what DeBoer thinks. Too much is being made over Jalen taking the first team snaps in the spring. Have we even had a scrimmage yet? I wouldn't expect him to be overtaken after just a few weeks of throwing drills. The opportunity will come, but it's still super early.

I mean other players have started to move up and down. It's too early to say who DeBoer will start definitely but it's not too early to say DeBoer thinks Milroe is in fact a QB. That seems pretty certain based on his words.

 

[BamaMoon]

That's why the Lord says look a their "fruit". They may be dressed up as an apple tree, but you won't find any apples. I could have sworn I clicked the FB board. How in the heck did I end up on the religious board? Must be drunk with wine again...

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It's a professional hazard.

 

[gtgilbert]

I have no idea what type of offense his high school ran, but if he was playing QB for them (being that he was more than likely the best athlete on the field) then I would have expected him to have learned the read option then.

His shortcomings as a QB are perplexing. I know he wouldn't have gotten a lot of 1st team reps behind Bryce, but my goodness he's so far behind where he should be. Fixing all that in one off-season would indeed be a miracle.

I don't know what offense it was either , but his HS stats are somewhat pedestrian and the number of rushes, rushing yards and rushing TDs decreased by a good bit every year. According to 247 he rushed 242 times as a sophmore, then only 73 times as a junior and down to only 45 (although the HS site only says 39 - likely the others were sacks) times as a senior so it kinda seems he was trying to avoid the 'running QB' label even in HS and with that few runs as a senior, if I had to guess, they were not likely running a lot of read options that season. He also only passed for 1257 in 10 games as a senior (according to the HS site).

Looks like the team was led by 2 RBs - one had 1275 APY and the other had 914, with both getting a majority of their yardage rushing. Only one receiver was somewhat impactful with 522 yards and the next only had 210 then falling way down. The backs chipped in receiving so that appears to be a part of the plan also. Oddly, their return yardage was 50% as much as their passing...

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[gtgilbert]

I mean other players have started to move up and down. It's too early to say who DeBoer will start definitely but it's not too early to say DeBoer thinks Milroe is in fact a QB. That seems pretty certain based on his words.

The only movement we've really seen is at Center with the transfer. Pretty much everywhere else it's the depth chart shifted up, even at the 'new' spots for Husky, wolf and Bandit. Maybe a tiny bit of movement at Husky as Malachi gets looks as a Safety also and that opens up looks for the Star/husky spot he was in, but that was somewhat expected even without a coaching/scheme change.

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

The only movement we've really seen is at Center with the transfer. Pretty much everywhere else it's the depth chart shifted up, even at the 'new' spots for Husky, wolf and Bandit. Maybe a tiny bit of movement at Husky as Malachi gets looks as a Safety also and that opens up looks for the Star/husky spot he was in, but that was somewhat expected even without a coaching/scheme change.

Sure. My point is that I think based on what DeBoer has said, he does think Milroe is a QB. He called him the headliner. He didn't have to say that he could have been more vague if he wanted. Also I think we've seen some movement at CB with Hurley being moved down for Brown IIRC. But I might be confused there. It also would make sense to be slower in moving QBs around.

I am not saying he loves Milroe as his starter or will start him. But I don't think its too early to say DeBoer thinks Milroe is a QB.

 

[CrimsonTitles]

I mean other players have started to move up and down. It's too early to say who DeBoer will start definitely but it's not too early to say DeBoer thinks Milroe is in fact a QB. That seems pretty certain based on his words.

Right, but how many incumbents have been overtaken thua far? And what's he supposed to say? "Milroe is a horrible QB who can't read defenses"? He's saying about what I would expect him to say. Most of the time when he speak about Milroe, it's because he was specifically asked about the guy. When the media writes about DeBoer's comments on Milroe, they never include the proper context. And they never really ask about the other QBs. I wish someone would straight up ask him if Milroe is going to be the starter. His non answer would be a lot more telling than the things he's said this far.

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

Right, but how many incumbents have been overtaken thua far? And what's he supposed to say? "Milroe is a horrible QB who can't read defenses"? He's saying about what I would expect him to say. Most of the time when he speak about Milroe, it's because he was specifically asked about the guy. When the media writes about DeBoer's comments on Milroe, they never include the proper context. And they never really ask about the other QBs. I wish someone would straight up ask him if Milroe is going to be the starter. His non answer would be a lot more telling than the things he's said this far.

He could say a billion things. He called Milroe the Headliner and that he was taking the reps with the 1s.

I do not know what DeBoer thinks of Milroe when it comes to who will start. But I think its very fair to say that DeBoer considers Milroe a QB. That's really not that groundbreaking of a statement.

Also, shocking that the media would ask about the incumbent QB. I can't imagine why they would do that. FWIW Jimmy Stein said they will try to ask the OC specifically about other QBs.

 

[TiderJack]

I have not seen that anywhere and it is news to me. But doesn't really explain fall and how most of the reports were back and forth about who looked best and Milroe mostly got reps and I believe eventually only got reps with the 1s.

I don't really care who everyone thinks is better than who at this point, again I am pretty far from Milroe's biggest supporter. But this whole idea that he's not even a QB is absurd. Its piling on a player who started and won a bunch of games for us. And most importantly the judgment is simply wrong and lazy.

The dude completed over 50% of his throws of 20+ yards. He had 26 Big time throws and 0 turnover worthy passes on those throws. That hardly screams "not a QB". Do other aspects of QBing matter? Obviously. But we seem determined to discount ANYTHING positive about Milroe and anything positive we've heard about Milroe. Its ABSURD.

Does he have a LOT to work on? Absolutely. He holds the ball too long, struggles a lot in the intermediate area of the field, and sometimes looks incredibly indecisive. All of those things and more are fair game to talk about but the way this board talks about him you'd think we started me at QB.

Now Deboer is calling him the "headliner" of the QB room and our response is "well he's not going to say bad things about him" and sure that's true but he seems to be going out of his way to say POSTIVIE things about Milroe and maybe we should listen to that a bit more?

This is starting to feel a LOT like last year when fans, including myself, kept saying well he might start but he definitely won't finish the season despite plenty of evidence to the contrary.

Oh and some of these same people that are overly critical to the point of it being ridiculous then seem to be implying that there is only one reason anyone could possibly support him...*wink* *wink*. Which is just absurd and inappropriate IMO. Heck we even had a guy implying Milroe was being political to edge out the other QBs and make sure he has the support of the team so they can't replace him or some such nonsense.

I am TIRED of this conversation I hate that I keep getting myself dragged back into it and that is on me. But COME ON people. Some of this criticism seems completely over the line and player bashing which I didn't think was allowed here. Even with Hurts it wasn't this bad and I was on the Tua side of that.

Not to mention the Ty praise is based on like 2 throws. Sure Milroe doesn't have the touch Ty does. We can confidently say that. But you could make the same judgment comparing different NFL QBs. Besides that we know basically nothing about Ty on the field because the sample size has been insanely small.

To be clear, I think you have largely not been one of the posters I'm complaining about but I have just hit a bit of a wall on this topic so I apologize if it feels like I am attacking you specifically. That is not my intention.

Well said and totally agree.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

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Question: Do the wolves get those outfits from ACME?

I always wondered why the coyote never just ordered a turkey or chicken from ACME instead of all of those gizmos...?

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Right, but how many incumbents have been overtaken thua far? And what's he supposed to say? "Milroe is a horrible QB who can't read defenses"? He's saying about what I would expect him to say. Most of the time when he speak about Milroe, it's because he was specifically asked about the guy. When the media writes about DeBoer's comments on Milroe, they never include the proper context. And they never really ask about the other QBs. I wish someone would straight up ask him if Milroe is going to be the starter. His non answer would be a lot more telling than the things he's said this far.

And doing that could be that person's one-way ticket not having another one of his questions answered. I wouldn't ask it because it is a stupid question to ask a new head coach at this stage.

 

[CoolBreeze]

Spring is about competition, moving pieces around and seeing what you've got. With only 2 practices in pads and no scrimmage work there is no way to know what your QBs can do in live action at this point as a new head coach. Love him or hate him, Milroe is the incumbent and he is doing everything right. Regardless of everything that happens in the Spring, however, no starter will be named until the Fall. Can't afford to have a mass exodus of players at one position, especially that one.

 

[Cruloc]

Question: Do the wolves get those outfits from ACME?

I always wondered why the coyote never just ordered a turkey or chicken from ACME instead of all of those gizmos...?

While not a wolf....close enough. Nothing he ordered from ACME ever worked despite the self proclaimed genius tag.

 

[Ledsteplin]

I guess I didn't see the aspect of being hard to bring down because he wasn't really an aggressive runner, imo.

Well, he's not a running back. He was recruited to play quarterback. And that's what he is.

 

[Ledsteplin]

He could say a billion things. He called Milroe the Headliner and that he was taking the reps with the 1s.

I do not know what DeBoer thinks of Milroe when it comes to who will start. But I think its very fair to say that DeBoer considers Milroe a QB. That's really not that groundbreaking of a statement.

Also, shocking that the media would ask about the incumbent QB. I can't imagine why they would do that. FWIW Jimmy Stein said they will try to ask the OC specifically about other QBs.

The senior writer for Touchdown Alabama Magazine had this to say about Jalen after watching him in practice.
"-Jalen Milroe is ‘most definitely’ taking that next step as a true quarterback, per sources."
“I’m telling you right now, Milroe has made the Jalen Hurts transition,” sources said. “He is truly elite now.” I guess we find out soon enough. I'm not sure who actually said all that.

 

[CoolBreeze]

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While not a wolf....close enough. Nothing he ordered from ACME ever worked despite the self proclaimed genius tag.

Wile E did not have many problems with Buggs. It was that bird brain Roadrunner that had him perplexed.

 

[CoolBreeze]

The senior writer for Touchdown Alabama Magazine had this to say about Jalen after watching him in practice.
"-Jalen Milroe is ‘most definitely’ taking that next step as a true quarterback, per sources."
“I’m telling you right now, Milroe has made the Jalen Hurts transition,” sources said. “He is truly elite now.” I guess we find out soon enough.

Wait until they put a defense in front of him before crowning him. Writers gotta write something but most of them wouldn't know a football if it hit them in the mouth.

 

[Cruloc]

The senior writer for Touchdown Alabama Magazine had this to say about Jalen after watching him in practice.
"-Jalen Milroe is ‘most definitely’ taking that next step as a true quarterback, per sources."
“I’m telling you right now, Milroe has made the Jalen Hurts transition,” sources said. “He is truly elite now.” I guess we find out soon enough. I'm not sure who actually said all that.

Hopefully what this person said is true. I'll believe it when he's got a defense to react to and isn't just throwing to a predetermined receiver in practice.

Hurts didn't have near the climb that Milroe does. Milroe is also having to deal with a complete staff overhaul and scheme change.

His numbers in high school weren't great, as a previous post pointed out. His numbers last year weren't either.

Maybe by some miracle he turns a corner and has a Burrow-like metamorphosis.

 

[HighlandOak]

Is it even a slightly remote possibility that he actually believes Milroe is a good QB?

I dearly hope not, and he's just coach-speaking until A-Day when it's obvious who his QB1 will be.

 

[BamaMoon]

The senior writer for Touchdown Alabama Magazine had this to say about Jalen after watching him in practice.
"-Jalen Milroe is ‘most definitely’ taking that next step as a true quarterback, per sources."
“I’m telling you right now, Milroe has made the Jalen Hurts transition,” sources said. “He is truly elite now.” I guess we find out soon enough. I'm not sure who actually said all that.

I hope it's true too, but here's the thing: What evidence does he have to prove this amazing "next step?"

Even if he's improved his throwing mechanics a good bit and even improved his accuracy all the things it'll take for him to truly "take the next step" will only be seen when the live bullets get fired next fall.

And to compare it to Jalen Hurts make it all seem even more hyperbolic. Jalen Hurts was better than JM from day one but his great improvement didn't happen until he got benched and sat behind Tua and then went on to Oklahoma.

If the guy is looking for a headline he found it, but to say he's turned a corner based on watching him make throws in routine drills and passing skels is more hope than reality at this point.

 

[JustNeedMe81]

The senior writer for Touchdown Alabama Magazine had this to say about Jalen after watching him in practice.
"-Jalen Milroe is ‘most definitely’ taking that next step as a true quarterback, per sources."
“I’m telling you right now, Milroe has made the Jalen Hurts transition,” sources said. “He is truly elite now.” I guess we find out soon enough. I'm not sure who actually said all that.

You actually cite the source from Touchdown alabama? LOL