2024 Presidential Election VIII

[NationalTitles18]

i’m so old i remember when something like this would have been cause for great concern among independent voters

So long as the old man projects a lot of energy while being totally off kilter and confused it's OK.

 

[92tide]

So long as the old man projects a lot of energy while being totally off kilter and confused it's OK.

well he was selected by his personal lord and savior jesus christ to be the physical manifestation of god's will on earth, or something

 

[Huckleberry]

Interesting perspective from David French:

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To Save Conservatism From Itself, I Am Voting for Harris

 

[UAH]

i’m so old i remember when something like this would have been cause for great concern among independent voters

I believe it is a great concern for true independents. We are seeing it in the numbers from the latest polls. When we see Haley voters for Harris refusing to back down it just seems to me the cracks are really beginning to show.

My thought earlier today that Trump "made his bones" in the Republican Debates when he destroyed Bush, Rubio and others with name calling. Now he is at the top of the ticket, there isn't as much free TV coverage, he doesn't have James Comey to weigh in at a critical time in the campaign and he is facing opponents that hit back harder. His mojo is gone!

 

[92tide]

I believe it is a great concern for true independents. We are seeing it in the numbers from the latest polls. When we see Haley voters for Harris refusing to back down it just seems to me the cracks are really beginning to show.

My thought earlier today that Trump "made his bones" in the Republican Debates when he destroyed Bush, Rubio and others with name calling. Now he is at the top of the ticket, there isn't as much free TV coverage, he doesn't have James Comey to weigh in at a critical time in the campaign and he is facing opponents that hit back harder. His mojo is gone!

yeah, i think we are seeing a shift. that was mostly a dig at trump/gop supporters who try to pass themselves off as independents while pushing gop talking points. i added air quotes to clarify in the quoted post

 

[UAH]

Doug Emhoff A really nice guy very genuine and comfortable in his own skin. You can see how much he loves his wife and his country.

 

[Huckleberry]

This guy gets loonier every day. How can anyone think Trump is fit for office?

 

[Huckleberry]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1822640058500857889

Buttigieg: "I watched JD Vance present himself as suddenly...very concerned about honesty. He's running w/Trump, [who] just gave a press conference where...he told 160 lies. That frankly is impressive in terms of being able to physically do that. It's like the Olympics of lying"

 

[Bamaro]

Personally I see Waltz more like Dubya with regards to military service. There are questions about their willingness to actually fight if called upon, but there is no question that they served honorably and got out the same.

W got into the reserves to keep from being drafted. That's not the case with Walz.

 

[92tide]

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This guy gets loonier every day. How can anyone think Trump is fit for office?

do you have proof other than liberal fake news that this isn't true

 

[NationalTitles18]

Financial times says Harris is now more trusted on the economy than Trump.

 

[AUDub]

Ian’s about to learn a lot about the audience he’s cultivated.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1822731679837872430

 

[NationalTitles18]

J.D. Vance Melts Down Over Questions About His Military Record

Despite lobbing the same questions at Tim Walz, J.D. Vance lost it when pressed about his own military service.

newrepublic.com

Keilar, who is married to an active duty Green Beret, took issue with how Vance’s own military service was being framed.

“You introduced him as a combat correspondent, which was what his title was, but when you dig a little deeper into that, he was a public affairs specialist, someone who did not see combat, which certainly the title ‘combat correspondent’ kind of gives you a different impression. So he may be the imperfect messenger on that,” Keilar said.

 

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[AWRTR]

Financial times says Harris is now more trusted on the economy than Trump.

Hahaha. We are truly doomed. If people think she the one to direct the us economy we deserve what we get.

 

[AWRTR]

Doug Emhoff A really nice guy very genuine and comfortable in his own skin. You can see how much he loves his wife and his country.

He also loves the nanny. 😂

 

[NationalTitles18]

Hahaha. We are truly doomed. If people think she the one to direct the us economy we deserve what we get.

Trump blew it to hell in 2020. Can't screw the pooch any worse than that.

 

[JDCrimson]

Its a shame...

Name an economy that has exceled under a fascist dictator.

Hahaha. We are truly doomed. If people think she the one to direct the us economy we deserve what we get.

 

[Huckleberry]

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/11/nx-s1-5070566/trump-news-conference

162 lies and distortions in a news conference. NPR fact-checks former President Trump

There were a host of false things that Donald Trump said during his hour-long news conference Thursday that have gotten attention.

A glaring example is his helicopter emergency landing story, which has not stood up to scrutiny.

But there was so much more. A team of NPR reporters and editors reviewed the transcript of his news conference and found at least 162 misstatements, exaggerations and outright lies in 64 minutes. That’s more than two a minute. It’s a stunning number for anyone – and even more problematic for a person running to lead the free world.

Politicians spin. They fib. They misspeak. They make honest mistakes like the rest of us. And, yes, they even sometimes exaggerate their biographies.

The expectation, though, is that they will treat the truth as something important and correct any errors.

But what former President Trump did this past Thursday went well beyond the bounds of what most politicians would do.

Here’s what we found, going chronologically from the beginning of Trump’s remarks to the end:

 

[AWRTR]

Trump blew it to hell in 2020. Can't screw the pooch any worse than that.

He ran up on Covid. The whole world blew up. Look at it before Covid hit. For all his crap his metrics in that area are pretty good.