It is a lame excuse. You have to show ID to buy or rent. Unless you are freeloading off someone, you have to have an ID of some kind. You have to have an ID to get a job. and it actually isn't hard to get a photo ID if you actually want to get one.
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It doesn't seem lame to people who don't have their proof of citizenship or who would have to travel a long distance to register.
1 in 10 eligible U.S. voters say they can’t easily show proof of their citizenship
U.S. citizens of color are more likely than white citizens, who do not identify as Latino, to say they lack citizenship documents (3% of people of color compared to 1% of white people) or can’t readily access them (11% of people of color vs. 8% of white people). Independents are more likely to report that they don’t have documents (4%) compared to Democrats (2%) and Republicans (1%). They are also more likely to report not having ready document access (13%) than Democrats (10%) and Republicans (7%).
The results fall in line with longstanding concerns among many election experts and voting rights advocates, who have warned that proposals — including the new Republican-backed bill in the U.S. House of Representatives — to require people to show documentary proof of citizenship when signing up to vote in federal elections could risk keeping eligible voters from casting ballots.
And from my link in the first post:
" The bill specifies that if someone registers by mail they must present their documents "in person to the office of the appropriate election official" before the voter registration deadline passes (or if they are in a state where voters can register at a polling place, they could show their documents there)."
"Requiring voters to show documents in person would be particularly burdensome for rural voters, people who rely on public transit and people who cannot leave work during business hours. In the 30 largest counties by area in the West, voters would have to drive an average of 260 miles to get to their election office, according to an analysis by the Center for American Progress. The same analysis found some voters in Alaska and Hawaii could have to fly to get to election offices."
Why the resistance to making it as easy as possible for these people?
Who are these people you speak of? I've heard that lame response for way too many years. If people are having a hard time getting a photo ID, to be honest I'd rather they not vote!
Please see my links above for the answer to that question. I'll provide more if you want.
As for not wanting certain populations to vote, I think that's a major goal of the Republican legislation.
I think proving you are legally eligible vote is the lowest possible bar for registration. It's required in basically every other country on earth yet somehow people here cannot pull it off?
But in answer to your question - because it makes sense.
Liberals: "People of color are too stupid to get ID's."
Liberals: "We need illegals here....who else would pick fruits and vegetables?"
They don't even realize how insulting this is to people of color - and many others who look at people of color as equals. Like most of those who put Trump in office last November.
Liberals: "We need illegals here....who else would pick fruits and vegetables?"
They don't even realize how insulting this is to people of color - and many others who look at people of color as equals. Like most of those who put Trump in office last November.
It makes sense to make it difficult for some eligible people to register to vote? Why?
Liberals: "People of color are too stupid to get ID's."
Liberals: "We need illegals here....who else would pick fruits and vegetables?"
They don't even realize how insulting this is to people of color - and many others who look at people of color as equals. Like most of those who put Trump in office last November.
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Stop twisting my words - you know exactly what I mean. It makes sense to ensure that those who register to vote are legal US citizens.
Especially after the disaster of the last POTUS that allowed 10+ million illegals into the country.
I wasn't twisting your words. This was my question:
Why the resistance to making it as easy as possible for these people (referring to the legal citizens referenced in the articles)?
And this was your response:
But in answer to your question - because it makes sense.
I didn't think that was what you meant, so I asked for clarification. I agree that only those who are eligible to vote should be permitted to do so. With very few exceptions, I think that's the case now. However, if some new level of ID is going to be required, it should not be more difficult than absolutely necessary for any American citizen to register. SAVE does not accomplish that goal.
Hence the need for identification.
SAVE doesn't have to address that. SAVE is simply to make sure we have their basic protections in place so that we know those who vote are actually legally able to vote.
We can/should address the ID issue as/if needed.
I guess if the goal is to further ensure that illegal immigrants can't vote while at the same time making it tough for some legal citizens to exercise their rights, SAVE is good legislation. Making sure someone is legally qualified to vote seems to be more important than ensuring that same person is actually able to do so. That doesn't have to be the case (unless of course it's deliberate, then mission accomplished).
Considering what Biden allowed to happen (welcomed?), at this point verification seems to be the logical choice.
Once again, I'm not arguing about the need for verification. I'm concerned that the mechanism being put in place makes it difficult for many legal citizens to get verified. Thoughtful people can disagree on the scale of the illegal voting problem while also acknowledging that all Americans deserve equal ease and access when it comes to registration.
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