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CNN just released a video of the person of interest running across a roof of a school building before hanging off the edge and jumping down about 10 feet onto a grassy area. Hard to make out what he was carrying, but he probably left DNA where he hung off the ledge of the building
 
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some_al_fan said:
Fact checking about trans people shows that it is not the truth, but a perception of it:

www.politifact.com

What data shows about trans people and mass shootings

After a transgender person opened fire on a Minneapolis school Mass, some Republicans connected the violence to the perpetrator’s gender identity. But no data shows a trend of violence or mass shootings among trans people.
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The Minneapolis incident would not qualify as a mass shooting under Hamline’s definition.)

The shooting in Minneapolis during the school mass done by a trans person isnt a mass shooting....by this person's definition, by death count.

Ok

Trans people make up what percentage of the population? 0.95%

How many of the recent shootings have been by a trans person?

If Charlie Kirk was murdered by a trans person, which isnt verified yet, this wouldn't fall under the definition of mass shooting either, is that correct?

Im not talking about mass shootings, im referring to the radicalization of a small group of people that were already having mental health issues.
 
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some_al_fan said:
Fact checking about trans people shows that it is not the truth, but a perception of it:

www.politifact.com

What data shows about trans people and mass shootings

After a transgender person opened fire on a Minneapolis school Mass, some Republicans connected the violence to the perpetrator’s gender identity. But no data shows a trend of violence or mass shootings among trans people.
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trans folks are the boogey man du jour
 
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jthomas666 said:
I'll make it as simple as I can. In this case, I believe two things:

1. What happened to Charlie Kirk it is absolutely terrible; there should be no place for political violence in this country.

2. Charlie Kirk has increased antipathy between conservatives and liberals.

That's it. Two separate concepts. There is no causation. No implied link between the two, no implied "well, he was just reaping the whirlwind."

If you cannot comprehend that, well, that's on you.
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I get it, my explanation wasn’t accusing you of anything, simply explaining why some of the pushback has happened here.
 
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92tide said:
i wonder if it was the entire trans and antifa ideology or just an abridged version
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Well I’m not one to instantly go with what Ana Kasparian says but she made a valid point… this is the most mind numbingly stupid investigation into a public shooting that we have ever seen. We have had two instances in which the governor and FBI director say ‘suspect in custody’, we have gone from “guy was wearing fatigues and tactical vest” to “he was wearing clothes to blend in”, and we have gone from “ammo and gun had trans pride and Antifa graffiti on it” to “it may or may not have had any scribbles on it”.

This is why you don’t hire TV personalities and podcastsers to be your top guy of the FBI.
 
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81usaf92 said:
Well I’m not one to instantly go with what Ana Kasparian says but she made a valid point… this is the most mind numbingly stupid investigation into a public shooting that we have ever seen. We have had two instances in which the governor and FBI director say ‘suspect in custody’, we have gone from “guy was wearing fatigues and tactical vest” to “he was wearing clothes to blend in”, and we have gone from “ammo and gun had trans pride and Antifa graffiti on it” to “it may or may not have had any scribbles on it”.

This is why you don’t hire TV personalities and podcastsers to be your top guy of the FBI.
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What do you think are the odds of there being multiple people involved in the operation rather than just one lone shooter?
 
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CrimsonNagus said:
Wrong on both statements.

74% of voting age individuals are registered to vote in this country. 65% of register voters cast a ballot last year. Half of that 65% voted for Trump. Roughly 33% of voting age individuals voted for Trump in 2024. So, not really close to half and definitely not "over half".

There is no evidence that trans are becoming militant. Generalizing a group of people like that is just as disgusting as those celebrating Mr. Kirk's death.
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I’m sorry, WHAT?
 
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What do you think are the odds of there being multiple people involved in the operation rather than just one lone shooter?
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Are you saying that FBI has released 2 individuals despite them being involved in the assassination?
 
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spidermayin said:
They may have him this time
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Suspect in Charlie Kirk killing became more political, opposed activist's views, authorities say

A 22-year-old Utah man who was arrested and booked on murder charges in the assassination of Charlie Kirk held deep disdain for the conservative activist’s provocative viewpoints and indicated to a family member that he was responsible for the shooting, authorities said Friday. The arrest...
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not buying it yet. waiting for a formal announcement. Pretty sure the FBI wants to be sure and not have a Richard Jewel type repeat.
 
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CrimsonNagus said:
74% of voting age individuals are registered to vote in this country. 65% of register voters cast a ballot last year. Half of that 65% voted for Trump. Roughly 33% of voting age individuals voted for Trump in 2024. So, not really close to half and definitely not "over half".
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And what percent voted for Harris?
 
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They may have him this time
www.yahoo.com

Suspect in Charlie Kirk killing became more political, opposed activist's views, authorities say

A 22-year-old Utah man who was arrested and booked on murder charges in the assassination of Charlie Kirk held deep disdain for the conservative activist’s provocative viewpoints and indicated to a family member that he was responsible for the shooting, authorities said Friday. The arrest...
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And you know the really bad part?

Given who is saying it, I have to remain skeptical.

You can't tell over 25,000 lies over a ten-year period and then just expect me to believe THIS TIME you're actually telling the truth.

Every single word this guy says has to be taken with a dose of ipecac. And his fixation on celebrity and bleached blonde bimbos tells me he probably interviewed Lindsay Wagner to be his FBI director first only to say "she's aged a lot in the last fifty years."
 
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