Weightroom Report

[victory hunter]

The days of our passivity ( my new word for the day hahaha ) I think are gone.


ROLL TIDE ROLL !!!!!!!!

passivity: shulaesk

 

[NYBamaFan]

If AS can keep his quick feet he can play at 357 easy. He is truley a freak of nature.

:BigA:

I doubt it. He might be able to play, but his effectiveness will be limited at anything near that weight. At left tackle, he needs to be quick. I find it hard to believe that he can be as quick at 357 as he would be at 320. Heck, he should be shooting for 290...

 

[bamaslaw]

I doubt it. He might be able to play, but his effectiveness will be limited at anything near that weight. At left tackle, he needs to be quick. I find it hard to believe that he can be as quick at 357 as he would be at 320. Heck, he should be shooting for 290...

I understand what you're saying, but he'd be fine at 315ish in my opinion.

With his height that's a perfect weight. Too much smaller and the NFL's gonna want him to add some pounds.

 

[bmcklv]

I understand what you're saying, but he'd be fine at 315ish in my opinion.

With his height that's a perfect weight. Too much smaller and the NFL's gonna want him to add some pounds.

Let's hope that he ignores the NFL calling for 3 more years instead of 2. It'll be awfully hard keep him here that long if he continues to ramp it up like he did the first year, because too much money will be thrown at him to leave early. I don't have a problem with that either, though. The young man certainly has a bright future ahead of him, hopefully beginning in the 2010 Pro season.

 

[gpmmp75]

You really want to see something, watch Saban's reaction if too many (probably one!) players fail the conditioning run. CNS is huge on S&C, fall camp is NOT for getting into shape, it's for honing the teams skills. Players at LSU who failed the conditoning test, and there were few, saw reduced playing time.

LSU63, your on the money. The players will report in for fall with a three part conditioning test. Weightlifting test that they must have increases on required lifts and two different running test for time or else....... Also, talked with a Grad.Asst. that works in S&C told me the players were all given a body fat test and it blew a lot of them away. Many players have been asked to lose some lb's a few as much 20 to 30 pounds. Asked if he could give me some of the maxes of the players as you mentioned in your other post. He knew them but would not give specifics on lifts. But did mention some of the stronger lineman and backs. Maybe, one day they will list them like he did at LSU.

RTR

 

[jrock44]

May be embarrassed to post them at this time.

 

[cbi1972]

May be embarrassed to post them at this time.

That's the whole point of making it public.

 

[jrock44]

That's the whole point of making it public.

Not at this time. No need to tear them down before even gets to know them. And for them to understand his expectations. If no progress is being seen (doubtful) then it would be time to use such tactics.

 

[mlh]

... Also, talked with a Grad.Asst. that works in S&C told me the players were all given a body fat test and it blew a lot of them away. Many players have been asked to lose some lb's a few as much 20 to 30 pounds...

It would be interesting to see some before and after pictures of some of the players. I think there will be a surprising difference in how they look now compared to how they will look at the beginning of next season. I've been on a weight loss/conditioning plan for about 6 months. Overall I've lost 12 lbs of fat and gained 8 lbs of muscle for a net loss of only 4 lbs, but I've reduced my body fat from 16.7% to 12.3%. The difference in my appearance is pretty amazing.

 

[RT1941]

It would be interesting to see some before and after pictures of some of the players. I think there will be a surprising difference in how they look now compared to how they will look at the beginning of next season. I've been on a weight loss/conditioning plan for about 6 months. Overall I've lost 12 lbs of fat and gained 8 lbs of muscle for a net loss of only 4 lbs, but I've reduced my body fat from 16.7% to 12.3%. The difference in my appearance is pretty amazing.

Send pics.

 

[Whammer Jammer]

Who's the new OL coach that he refers to in his post? Have we hired a replacement for Marshall?

Pendry

 

[RT1941]

Not at this time. No need to tear them down before even gets to know them. And for them to understand his expectations. If no progress is being seen (doubtful) then it would be time to use such tactics.

I'm still questioning Rocky being there. If he was the old S&C coach, he should have made it a point to tear the a new one if they weren't competive. Also, don't you think Joe Kines would have been in their face if his players slacked in this area. I'm glad to see such an emphasis on S&C, I just can't believe the players were allowed to do what ever they wanted... I also wonder if the players had the same mentality in the weight room when we went 10-2? Or was it just that it affected them last year?

 

[Really Big Bama Fan]

andre weighed 357 last week. so him playing under 300 is a long shot

I understand that Coach Saban likes a Nose Guard that is big enough to handle a double-team on every play, so is there any chance that if Andre remains at that weight then he might move to the middle of the defensive line?

 

[jrock44]

I'm still questioning Rocky being there. If he was the old S&C coach, he should have made it a point to tear the a new one if they weren't competive. Also, don't you think Joe Kines would have been in their face if his players slacked in this area. I'm glad to see such an emphasis on S&C, I just can't believe the players were allowed to do what ever they wanted... I also wonder if the players had the same mentality in the weight room when we went 10-2? Or was it just that it affected them last year?

The S&C Coach MUST have the support of the head coach. I do not have any info other than what has been posted on this board, but many believe that was not the case under the old regime.

Roll Tide
Work there tails off !!!

 

[CrimsonProf]

I understand that Coach Saban likes a Nose Guard that is big enough to handle a double-team on every play, so is there any chance that if Andre remains at that weight then he might move to the middle of the defensive line?

Andre is too good at his position to move him. Especially with a right-handed quarterback. Read Michael Lewis' The Blind Side and you'll get it. Or look at the example of Jonathan Ogden at the Ravens.

 

[bayoutider]

I doubt it. He might be able to play, but his effectiveness will be limited at anything near that weight. At left tackle, he needs to be quick. I find it hard to believe that he can be as quick at 357 as he would be at 320. Heck, he should be shooting for 290...

LSU's Herman Johnson is playing LT at 6'7" 372. I believe he backed up the starter last season who weighed 325-335.
Arkansas OT's play at 330ish same for Georgia. I didn't check all the SEC lines but I would prefer my OTs to be over 310.
I bet Andre hasn't seen 290 since his junior year of HS.

 

[bayoutider]

I'm still questioning Rocky being there. If he was the old S&C coach, he should have made it a point to tear the a new one if they weren't competive. Also, don't you think Joe Kines would have been in their face if his players slacked in this area. I'm glad to see such an emphasis on S&C, I just can't believe the players were allowed to do what ever they wanted... I also wonder if the players had the same mentality in the weight room when we went 10-2? Or was it just that it affected them last year?

You must be new to reading our forum on any regular basis.

Does the old saying you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink make any sense.

 

[Hankster2]

I understand that Coach Saban likes a Nose Guard that is big enough to handle a double-team on every play, so is there any chance that if Andre remains at that weight then he might move to the middle of the defensive line?

Considering Saban put 5 DT's in this signing class, I don't see that as being part of his mindset.

There's the expression "robbing Peter to pay Paul". Pulling Andre from the OL fits the expression provided Peter is on welfare.

 

[rgw]

If Andre becomes 340-350 pounds of chiseled mass of man, I doubt anyone will complain.

 

[Really Big Bama Fan]

Considering Saban put 5 DT's in this signing class, I don't see that as being part of his mindset.

There's the expression "robbing Peter to pay Paul". Pulling Andre from the OL fits the expression provided Peter is on welfare.

Which of the new DT's are as big and strong as Andre?