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Mark Ingram officially visited Alabama last weekend. He came away very impressed and they are on his list of favorites. He said all of his favorites are equal.

CNS visited Ingram at his home on Wednesday. Ingram said after all the coaches from his favorites come for in-home visits that he is going to sit down with his family and make his decision. It looks like we should hear something soon.

CNS is really impressed with the film that he saw on Mark Ingram. Alabama needs a play maker, running back with his size and speed.

http://www.mhsaa.com/sports/btr/07d2bqs.txt

Ingram, Mark - 100 METER DASH 11.07 - 200 METER DASH 22.30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L45rN1d8qU0
Mark Ingram had over 400 yds rushing and 5 TDs (Highlights)

Bama Mag: Mark Ingram Profile
 
Well, we are really putting the hard press on this kid. Obviously, the ol' Nicktator wants his signature very badly.

You have to love his speed, no doubt. If you look at his track numbers, he is quick enough to legitimately run track in the SEC, and that is highly impressive.

Interestingly enough, if we get his commitment, that will give us four tailback commitments in this class: Ivan Matchett, Jermaine Preyear, Chris Jordan (who said he will start at tailback), and Mark Ingram. Even if Preyear does not qualify, that gives us three tailbacks coming in, and that is with four scholarship tailbacks on the roster, none of which are seniors.

I don't think it takes a genius to figure out that Saban is not very happy with our current crop of tailbacks.
 
BigEasyTider said:
I don't think it takes a genius to figure out that Saban is not very happy with our current crop of tailbacks.
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That is probably true, but I would imagine Saban going after this many tailbacks is a result of watching our current guys battle injuries, and also it has been talked about that Preyear is questionable to qualify and Jordan is just a stud player that might move to LB - if those things happen then we would only be adding two.

But I would tend to agree with your assumption. It seems that Saban likes to have a big bruiser to carry the load and we don't have that right now.

Wouldn't Matchett and Ingram both be the biggest backs on the team, if they were there right now?

I did my own research. All the backs currently commited and being persued are bigger than all the backs we currently have on roster, and they all have comparable speed.
 
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BigEasyTider said:
Well, we are really putting the hard press on this kid. Obviously, the ol' Nicktator wants his signature very badly.

You have to love his speed, no doubt. If you look at his track numbers, he is quick enough to legitimately run track in the SEC, and that is highly impressive.

Interestingly enough, if we get his commitment, that will give us four tailback commitments in this class: Ivan Matchett, Jermaine Preyear, Chris Jordan (who said he will start at tailback), and Mark Ingram. Even if Preyear does not qualify, that gives us three tailbacks coming in, and that is with four scholarship tailbacks on the roster, none of which are seniors.

I don't think it takes a genius to figure out that Saban is not very happy with our current crop of tailbacks.
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Running backs are usually the best ath. on the team and can play a multitude of positons if needed on sheer ability alone. Second A great running back can make an average offense look great. (See Ladainian Tomlinson when at TCU). And if they dont work out at RB they can play elswhere.
 
hacksaw830 said:
Running backs are usually the best ath. on the team and can play a multitude of positons if needed on sheer ability alone. Second A great running back can make an average offense look great. (See Ladainian Tomlinson when at TCU). And if they dont work out at RB they can play elswhere.
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Unless you're talking about a once-in-a-coach's-career back (Tomlinson, Bo Jackson and Herschel Walker would be the exceptions that prove the rule), I'm not sure I agree that a stout RB can offset an otherwise average offense.

Especially in the SEC, you have to have the OL, and that's where we've been lacking. Also maybe in the character department, though board rules make me hesitant to elaborate in a public forum.

I do agree that, with so many TBs being recruited, Saban has said to the current group, "Get the job done (on the field and off) or get out of the way for someone who will."
 
4Q Basket Case said:
Unless you're talking about a once-in-a-coach's-career back (Tomlinson, Bo Jackson and Herschel Walker would be the exceptions that prove the rule), I'm not sure I agree that a stout RB can offset an otherwise average offense.
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I think you are right on that one.

Tomlinson is a very poor example, since he is the best tailback of his generation. That is about like saying you can have a good passing attack with an average QB and an average offensive line, so long as you have Jerry Rice at wide receiver. Point is, you aren't going to be able to consistently get those type of players, and will probably never even be able to get one.

Moreover, I don't really agree that these guys we are signing can play a lot of different positions. That is true of some tailbacks -- particularly the smaller ones who can play in the secondary -- but with the current crop we have, they are all too big to end up in the secondary, aside from maybe Preyear. Guys like Matchett and Ingram, if moved, would have to play linebacker, and given how big we need our linebackers to be for the 3-4, they would have to put on a lot of weight.
 
BigEasyTider said:
I think you are right on that one.

Tomlinson is a very poor example, since he is the best tailback of his generation. That is about like saying you can have a good passing attack with an average QB and an average offensive line, so long as you have Jerry Rice at wide receiver. Point is, you aren't going to be able to consistently get those type of players, and will probably never even be able to get one.

Moreover, I don't really agree that these guys we are signing can play a lot of different positions. That is true of some tailbacks -- particularly the smaller ones who can play in the secondary -- but with the current crop we have, they are all too big to end up in the secondary, aside from maybe Preyear. Guys like Matchett and Ingram, if moved, would have to play linebacker, and given how big we need our linebackers to be for the 3-4,

they would have to put on a lot of weight.
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Dude lighten up! how do you know one of these kids will not be the next Bo? I am just giving a couple of examples why Saban may be recruiting so many backs thats were the studs play, and I think you will see him approach recruiting the same way next year and bring in 3-5 more backs. I coach football and can tell you that if you could pick ONE stud player for a team it will be RB, a good back can make a coach look like a genius. Yea you need a good OL but I dont care how good they are if you dont have a good back they will look average, because once the back clears the line its up to him to make it thru the second and third level of the D. And even if playing RB in the SEC doesnt pan out for a back, you can usually move him to special teams. Furthermore Jordan, Matchett, and Ingram can and have played LB, Preyear has grade issues. If Ingram doesnt come and Preyear has to sit then you are down to two backs with a high possibility of Jordan going to LB so this mighty class of backs could be cut to ONE by fall very easily. Bottom line is I see where he is going on this one, good size, atheletic, quick feet, good hips, and speed speed speed.
 
:BigA: We have had some good backs but it has been a while since we have had a great back!!! You have to go back to Dubose with Shaun Alexander and look at what he done !!! It could be third down and 9 and he would get 12 or take it to the house!!!!:biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2: The next year after he graduated look what happened!!:conf2::conf2::conf2::conf2: We need Ingram:BigA::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:
 
Matchett is a natural running back. I doubt he moves to LB especially considering the state of our current rb situation. He appears to have great vision, power, one NASTY and I MEAN NASTY stiff arm and is very aggressive in his running style. That type of runner would have punched it in during the Miss St game and that Int return might would have never happened.
 
Bamabuzzard said:
Matchett is a natural running back. I doubt he moves to LB especially considering the state of our current rb situation. He appears to have great vision, power, one NASTY and I MEAN NASTY stiff arm and is very aggressive in his running style. That type of runner would have punched it in during the Miss St game and that Int return might would have never happened.
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I agree that highlight where he also most flips the first defender with a stiff arm then hits the next one with another to pickup a few more yards on the run has me drooling to see him put on the Crimson and White :BigA:
 
This kid seems to have the combination of size and speed that we've been sorely lacking. He's definitely not another 'scatback' that has to have open field to advance the ball. He would be a huge pickup.
 
I noticed the jet was in Flint again tonight. What's the limit on in-home visits?

Looked like 1UA stopped in Lansing (picking up Bobby Williams?) and then onto Flint and back to TCL after that...
 
First of all, Chris Jordan will NOT be a LB. This has been reiterated time and time again. The coaches want him, and like him, as a RB. He runs a legit 4.35 and has the size at 6'2" 205 lbs to be a force at RB, why would you even consider moving him to LB? This I don't understand. . .

Secondly, a question, is this Mark Ingram the son of the former Giants WR Mark Ingram who won Super Bowls for Parcells and eventually spent time behind bars?

This kid looks good, I want him in Crimson. I'll take anyone who can run a 4.4 or faster!! You wonder sometimes why kids are rated the way they are, either they look overrated, or underrated. Ingram is one of the lower ranked 4 star players, and I'm not really sure why. He ran for 400 yards and 5 TD's against the #6 team in the state of Michigan. I really want to get this kid!
 
Tider@UNA said:
First of all, Chris Jordan will NOT be a LB. This has been reiterated time and time again. The coaches want him, and like him, as a RB. He runs a legit 4.35 and has the size at 6'2" 205 lbs to be a force at RB, why would you even consider moving him to LB? This I don't understand. . .
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Even tho he was promised he would start out at RB, most people believe Chris Jordan will eventually move to LBer, ala Jimmy Johns. Right now...Alabama could have Goode/Grant/Upchruch/Coffee/Preyear/Griffiths/perhaps Ingram at RB for the next couple of yrs. So while Jordan at RB is intriguing, chances are his bet to play quicker will be a LBer. But since Saban is a man of his word, he will give Jordan every opportunity to win a spot in the RB rotation. But, IMO, within two yrs....Chris Jordan will be a LBer for Alabama.


Secondly, a question, is this Mark Ingram the son of the former Giants WR Mark Ingram who won Super Bowls for Parcells and eventually spent time behind bars?
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The one and the same.


This kid looks good, I want him in Crimson. I'll take anyone who can run a 4.4 or faster!! You wonder sometimes why kids are rated the way they are, either they look overrated, or underrated. Ingram is one of the lower ranked 4 star players, and I'm not really sure why. He ran for 400 yards and 5 TD's against the #6 team in the state of Michigan. I really want to get this kid!
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Obviously, we want Ingram at Alabama. If Saban didn't think he could get Ingram, he would not have made a play for the young man. I believe Alabama is abit of a wild card for Ingram. If we don't land him, it would be a tough break, but not a make or break for this class. But I am hoping we get Ingram.
 
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