Notable SEC Players Not Drafted

BigEasyTider

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Interesting list. One that includes a lot of dang good football players.
  • D.J. Hall (Alabama, WR)
  • Wallace Gilberry (Alabama, DE)
  • Simeon Castille (Alabama, CB)
  • Wesley Woodyard (Kentucky, LB)
  • Ali Highsmith (LSU, LB)
  • Eric Young (Tennessee, OG)
  • Michael Grant (Arkansas, CB)
  • Robert Felton (Arkansas, OG)
  • Jonathon Heffney (Tennessee, S)
  • Titus Brown (MSU, DE)
  • Fernando Velasco (Georgia, C)
I know the NFL is a completely different world, but you could win a hell of a lot of football games in this conference with those guys starting on the roster.
 

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No joke. I fail to believe that DJ, Simeon, or Gilberry were not 3 of the best 252 upperclassmen in college football. I know the NFL is a whole different level. But, is Early Doucett so much better than DJ that he would go in the top 3 rounds, while DJ would not get drafted? I really do not understand them not getting picked.
 

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Interesting list. One that includes a lot of dang good football players.
  • D.J. Hall (Alabama, WR)
  • Wallace Gilberry (Alabama, DE)
  • Simeon Castille (Alabama, CB)
  • Wesley Woodyard (Kentucky, LB)
  • Ali Highsmith (LSU, LB)
  • Eric Young (Tennessee, OG)
  • Michael Grant (Arkansas, CB)
  • Robert Felton (Arkansas, OG)
  • Jonathon Heffney (Tennessee, S)
  • Titus Brown (MSU, DE)
  • Fernando Velasco (Georgia, C)
I know the NFL is a completely different world, but you could win a hell of a lot of football games in this conference with those guys starting on the roster.
How in the world do you draft Jerod Mayo top ten and not draft either of these guys?
 

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Ali Highsmith was a bit on the small side linebacker anyway, and then showed up at the Combine and ran the forty at approximately 5.0 seconds, i.e. slower than a lot of offensive linemen and the slowest of any linebacker at the combine. There were a lot of rumblings that he was hurt, which is almost certainly true, but still it was an absolutely idiotic thing for him to run in that case. Plenty of guys every year don't run, he should have been one of them. Smaller linebackers -- particularly one that needs to get a lot stronger too -- have to show a lot of speed, and Highsmith didn't do that.

Woodyard was a small linebacker too, and not overly disciplined. He was always flying around, but never really a method for the madness. In the running game, he was often swallowed up at the point of attack. Most people expected him to be drafted, but I could see why teams passed him up. You'll never find many 210 pound linebackers in the NFL, and that hurt him bad.

As for Mayo... I hate the Vols, but he is a great prospect. He's got pretty good size -- 6'2 and 230 -- and really has very good mobility for his size. He went to Indy for the Combine and ran a 4.50, which was highly impressive. Beyond that, he's a smart kid who understands the game well -- always a major plus for a Belichick defender -- and he has the versatility to play both inside and outside. Beyond that, he was about the only good defender the Vols had last year, and led the league with 140 tackles. He's a dang good player, and had the Pats not selected him, another team in the mid-first round would have.
 
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I would have said Woodyard was the biggest non-Bama shocker until someone pointed out to me that Titus Brown didn't get drafted, either.

Brown and Gilberry are the two biggest shockers from the SEC, followed by Woodyard, Castille and Hall. Felton surprises me too.

Highsmith is a mild surprise but not with that 40 time. I still expect all of these guys I just listed to sign and make practice squads.
 

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why is Gilberry such a shocker? A slow, undersized DE and no one can figure out why he didn't get drafted? Sure, he's got heart and tons of it, but heart doesn't make up for the deficiencies that the pro scouts see.
 

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Ali Highsmith was a bit on the small side linebacker anyway, and then showed up at the Combine and ran the forty at approximately 5.0 seconds, i.e. slower than a lot of offensive linemen and the slowest of any linebacker at the combine. There were a lot of rumblings that he was hurt, which is almost certainly true, but still it was an absolutely idiotic thing for him to run in that case. Plenty of guys every year don't run, he should have been one of them. Smaller linebackers -- particularly one that needs to get a lot stronger too -- have to show a lot of speed, and Highsmith didn't do that.
Highsmith has just never been a fast linebacker and the scouts knew that long before the combine. His success has always come from having a nose for the football and hard hitting, not from blazing speed. On the other hand, he was always surrounded by speed at LSU and there was a niche for a backer with his sense of position.

But the NFL has a formula that says how fast and heavy a guy should be for every position right down to his ankle circumference. In the NFL, Ali Highsmith is a tweener . . . to small to play on the line and too slow to be a back. Linebacker is the right position for him and he has obvious skills to offer, attested to by a handful of serious free agent offers the instant the draft was over. If he's successful in making a team, it will likely be as a short-yardage specialist.
 

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Early Doucet was head and shoulders above DJ Hall as a complete receiver hence him going in the third round and DJ not going in any rounds. Maybe the camera catching DJ and Keith Brown taking plays off on non passing plays (ala Fla.St. game) contributed to them not being drafted.

Early Doucet didn't have discipline problems as did both Hall and Brown. Doucet also was a threat over the middle AND on the outside where as Hall's damage was done primarily on the outside and rarely in the middle of the field.

We sit in shock and dismay as our BEST receiver in school history doesn't get drafted yet wr's from other schools that statistically weren't the best in their school's history get drafted. We've got players on our team right now that physically and mentally are better than Hall and will get drafted. Nothing against Hall because he is and always will be apart of the Bama family. But let's be honest. If that's the "best in Alabama history" then maybe we've been lacking from a quality standpoint for years. I don't think we'll be lacking for much longer considering the 2007 & 2008 recruiting class.

I have a feeling the "Tide" is preparing to make it's way inward. It can only go out so far before it has to come in....
 

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No joke. I fail to believe that DJ, Simeon, or Gilberry were not 3 of the best 252 upperclassmen in college football. I know the NFL is a whole different level. But, is Early Doucett so much better than DJ that he would go in the top 3 rounds, while DJ would not get drafted? I really do not understand them not getting picked.

Yes, ED is that much better than DJ, to me. ED worked harder and was a better playmaker. DJ was, unfortunately, a victim of club Shula!
 

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Yes, ED is that much better than DJ, to me. ED worked harder and was a better playmaker. DJ was, unfortunately, a victim of club Shula!
Yes... Doucet was a much better prospect than Hall.

Aside from being bigger, just as fast, a better blocker, and more elusive in the open field, Doucet also has none of the character concerns that plagued Hall.

There is very much a reason why one was drafted and the other was not.

The lineman from Arkansas is a bit of a suprise to me. They're pretty good
The big knock on those guys is an inability to pass block. That's the most important thing for NFL linemen, and those guys are just road graders, and nothing more.
 

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Three more guys to add to that group that I forgot... all LSU guys...

Jonathon Zenon (LSU CB)
Luke Sanders (LSU LB)
Carnell Stewart (LSU RT)

Again, as I said before, that would be on hell of a team. You could make an All-SEC Dream Team out of guys who didn't even get drafted.
 
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Yes, ED is that much better than DJ, to me. ED worked harder and was a better playmaker. DJ was, unfortunately, a victim of club Shula!
if dj hall is a victim of anything. he is a victim of his own choices and today he is reaping what he is sowing.
 
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why is Gilberry such a shocker? A slow, undersized DE and no one can figure out why he didn't get drafted? Sure, he's got heart and tons of it, but heart doesn't make up for the deficiencies that the pro scouts see.

....still, if we had one player that I thought would go it's Gilberry. He performed at a very high level against SEC competition and has great character.
He's not the biggest or the fastest but he'll make it with the Giants.
I still think Keith Brown has the tools if someone just gives him a chance. He's a burner with very good size.

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....still, if we had one player that I thought would go it's Gilberry. He performed at a very high level against SEC competition and has great character.
He's not the biggest or the fastest but he'll make it with the Giants.
I still think Keith Brown has the tools if someone just gives him a chance. He's a burner with very good size.

alasippi
Brown didn't do much with the "chances" he had at Alabama so I hope he does more with any chances he gets with an NFL team. He had the tools to be a first day pick.
 

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