Decline of the DNC V

President Vance is laughing all the way to the bank if this poll has any validity.

AOC isn't qualified to be a rep, let alone a president.

Newsom and Harris have way to much baggage and can't win.

Honestly, Buttigieg is a very smart guy who would be a great centrist president with some liberal leans. He is very impressive. But the prejudice against him for being gay is a massive bar to overcome.
vance needs to worry about little marco first

regardless, polls this far out are mostly about name recognition more than anything else
 
i didn't think they were ready to vote for a rapist, felon, multiple bankruptcy, thrice married reality tv star, but here we are
are you saying Buttigieg has a chance? Because this statement seems like that is what you are saying. Or did you just want to insult Trump? I cannot stand the man either but if Buttigieg is who the democrats trot out they are toast.

Personally I like Buttigieg as a candidate. I might even vote for him especially if my other choice is a trump 3rd term. Buttigieg seems like a decent person with good ideas, however, most of America will not see passed his sexual preferences. Even democrats can be homophobic.

What I find especially funny is the hypocritical people that voted for Trump said they didn't care about Trump's personal life but will suddenly care about Buttigieg's personal life.
 
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are you saying Buttigieg has a chance? Because this statement seems like that is what you are saying. Or did you just want to insult Trump? I cannot stand the man either but if Buttigieg is who the democrats trot out they are toast.

Personally I like Buttigieg as a candidate. I might even vote for him especially if my other choice is a trump 3rd term. Buttigieg seems like a decent person with good ideas, however, most of America will not see passed his sexual preferences. Even democrats can be homophobic.

What I find especially funny is the hypocritical people that voted for Trump said they didn't care about Trump's personal life but will suddenly care about Buttigieg's personal life.


i have no idea if he has a chance or not. that and insulting trump are not mutually exclusive ;).

i like him and think he would be good at the job. i didn't think the country was ready for a black president, but then we got obama

the way things are going, 2005-08 is going to seem like a cakewalk (and so will covid) and we are going to be in a world of hurt by the time the 2028 election rolls around, so there is no telling who people will be willing to vote for.
 
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are you saying Buttigieg has a chance? Because this statement seems like that is what you are saying. Or did you just want to insult Trump? I cannot stand the man either but if Buttigieg is who the democrats trot out they are toast.

Personally I like Buttigieg as a candidate. I might even vote for him especially if my other choice is a trump 3rd term. Buttigieg seems like a decent person with good ideas, however, most of America will not see passed his sexual preferences. Even democrats can be homophobic.

What I find especially funny is the hypocritical people that voted for Trump said they didn't care about Trump's personal life but will suddenly care about Buttigieg's personal life.
I don't think the gay stuff will have much relevance outside the communities of color. What I remember most about this guy is that he took "maternity leave" during an infrastructure crisis. It was a ridiculous decision then and won't be forgotten should he try to run for president.
 
President Vance is laughing all the way to the bank if this poll has any validity.

AOC isn't qualified to be a rep, let alone a president.

Newsom and Harris have way to much baggage and can't win.

Honestly, Buttigieg is a very smart guy who would be a great centrist president with some liberal leans. He is very impressive. But the prejudice against him for being gay is a massive bar to overcome.
Dont count out one of the sons. Did you notice who was one of the 1st to deplane AF1 in China this morning, even before the secretary of state? He is in China either to boost his profile for 2028 or to lay groundwork for more grift from China.
 
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cue the whirling dervishes

He did it because the state government of New York gave him 8 billion dollars. The state is bailing the city out. Now let's be honest he didn't cause this problem. It was caused by previous administrations, but don't act like he magically figured it out because he is so awesome. Hochul and the state legislature bailed him out. The fix isn't permanent. It's just a stop gap.
 
He did it because the state government of New York gave him 8 billion dollars. The state is bailing the city out. Now let's be honest he didn't cause this problem. It was caused by previous administrations, but don't act like he magically figured it out because he is so awesome. Hochul and the state legislature bailed him out. The fix isn't permanent. It's just a stop gap.
Hochul's approval rating is down about 8 points; I'm wondering if the bailout money was (at least in part) a reaction to that.
 
Rep. Jamie Raskin spent over 2 minutes trying grill 16-year-old Texas high school student Marco Hunter-Lopez at today’s hearing on political Islam and Sharia Law.

What a clown.

Marco, who EXPOSED his school allowing "Why Islam" to hand out Qurans, hijabs, and Sharia pamphlets during lunch while censoring conservative clubs, simply pointed out America's Christian heritage and the faith of the Declaration's signers.

Raskin interrupted him repeatedly, demanded to know if he believes America is a theocracy, and lectured him on Jefferson's "wall of separation."

This is what happens when a 16-year-old patriot stands up for truth in Congress.

Marco stood his ground quite well against a man 47 years his senior. Good work, Marco.


Raskin is a POS and always has been. I'm sure the 8th district's expectations were low, but good Lord.
 
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He did it because the state government of New York gave him 8 billion dollars. The state is bailing the city out. Now let's be honest he didn't cause this problem. It was caused by previous administrations, but don't act like he magically figured it out because he is so awesome. Hochul and the state legislature bailed him out. The fix isn't permanent. It's just a stop gap.
He also balanced it by delaying required pension contributions for public employees for a couple of years. The already woefully inadequate pension funds are now in even greater peril and will likely become insolvent in the coming years.
 
Dont count out one of the sons. Did you notice who was one of the 1st to deplane AF1 in China this morning, even before the secretary of state? He is in China either to boost his profile for 2028 or to lay groundwork for more grift from China.

I am not. Vance is a pretty weak candidate in many ways and could easily lose to Marco Rubio. Honestly, if we have another Republican admin, Marco is probably about the best it could be if he has a sudden return of lucidity and goes back to being the old Marco. He was conservative but reasonable before he swore fealty to Trump and MAGA.
 
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He also balanced it by delaying required pension contributions for public employees for a couple of years. The already woefully inadequate pension funds are now in even greater peril and will likely become stolen altogether in the coming years.
FIFY
 
i didn't think they were ready to vote for a rapist, felon, multiple bankruptcy, thrice married reality tv star, but here we are
Agree, but the intel suggests the general public will vote for the above before the latter. And the Democrats have literally painted themselves into a corner on acute minority politics and acquiesced leadership of a national party to said acute minority leadership...
 
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Agree, but the intel suggests the general public will vote for the above before the latter. And the Democrats have literally painted themselves into a corner on acute minority politics and acquiesced leadership of a national party to said acute minority leadership...
i don't think they have backed themselves into any corner. as was the case in 2016-2020, regardless of who the democrats run, there will be a firehose of crap spewed about them. there is no magic "moderate" candidate that is going to be immune to that and come to the rescue.
 
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I am not. Vance is a pretty weak candidate in many ways and could easily lose to Marco Rubio. Honestly, if we have another Republican admin, Marco is probably about the best it could be if he has a sudden return of lucidity and goes back to being the old Marco. He was conservative but reasonable before he swore fealty to Trump and MAGA.
seems like his sons are even more stupid than he is, and they have not shown that they have his sociopathic charisma and cunning.

watching the black hole of idiocy that will appear upon his exit will be fascinating. unfortunately, i am afraid that we are all going to be victims of the gravity.

wrt marco, i guess we will find out if it is possible to come back from selling your soul to donnie
 
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Agreed... Any of those running a campaign on moderate values would be solid.
Yup plus they all just come across as "adults" in a room full of children. I think no matter which party or even platform the next president runs on/comes from they need to be a low drama president.

I think most Americans are exhausted or will be by the end of this term.
 
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