BREAKING SCOTUS upholds birthright citizenship!!

I love how everyone claiming "that was not the original intent of the 14A" ignores that we know exactly what the intent was. How, you ask. Because the people of the time involved with the creation of the 14A also wrote and spoke about it in the years following its adoption. Birthright citizenship is its design, as stated by those involved and upheld by the courts for over a century.


From Hearhther Cox Richardson: https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/june-30-2026


The Fourteenth Amendment that established birthright citizenship came out of a very specific moment and addressed a specific problem. After the Civil War ended in 1865, former Confederates in the American South denied their Black neighbors basic rights. To remedy the problem, the Republican Congress passed a civil rights bill in 1866 establishing “[t]hat all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians, not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States; and such citizens of every race and color…shall have the same rights in every State and Territory in the United States.”

But President Andrew Johnson, who was a southern Democrat elected in 1864 on a union ticket with President Abraham Lincoln, a Republican, vetoed the 1866 Civil Rights Bill. While the Republican Party organized in the 1850s to fight the idea that there should be different classes of Americans based on race, Democrats tended to support racial discrimination. In that era, not only Black Americans, but also Irish, Chinese, Mexican, and Indigenous Americans, faced discriminatory state laws.

In contrast to the Democrats, Republicans stated explicitly in their 1860 platform that they were “opposed to any change in our naturalization laws or any state legislation by which the rights of citizens hitherto accorded to immigrants from foreign lands shall be abridged or impaired; and in favor of giving a full and efficient protection to the rights of all classes of citizens, whether native or naturalized, both at home and abroad.”

When Republicans tried to enshrine civil rights into federal law in 1866, Johnson objected that the proposed law “comprehends the Chinese of the Pacific States, Indians subject to taxation, the people called Gipsies, as well as the entire race designated as blacks” as citizens, and he noted that if “all persons who are native-born already are, by virtue of the Constitution, citizens of the United States, the passage of the pending bill cannot be necessary to make them such.” And if they weren’t already citizens, he wrote, Congress should not pass a law “to make our entire colored population and all other excepted classes citizens of the United States” when eleven southern states were not represented in Congress.

When Congress wrote the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, it took Johnson’s admonition to heart. It did not confer citizenship on the groups Johnson outlined; it simply acknowledged that the Constitution had already established their citizenship. The first sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment reads: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

The Fourteenth Amendment became part of the U.S. Constitution in 1868. Then, in 1882, during a period of racist hysteria, Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act agreeing that Chinese immigrants could not become citizens. Nonetheless, even then the Supreme Court upheld the citizenship of their children.

Wong Kim Ark was born around 1873, the child of Chinese parents who were merchants in San Francisco. In 1889 he traveled with his parents when they repatriated to China, where he married. He then returned to the U.S., leaving his wife behind, and was readmitted. After another trip to China in 1894, though, customs officials denied him reentry to the U.S. in 1895, claiming he was a Chinese subject because his parents were Chinese.

Wong sued, and his lawsuit was the first to climb all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, thanks to the government’s recognition that with the U.S. in the middle of an immigration boom, the question of birthright citizenship must be addressed. In the 1898 U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark decision, the court held by a vote of 6–2 that Wong was a citizen because he was born in the United States.

Immigration scholar Hidetaka Hirota of the University of California, Berkeley, explains that the government went even further to protect children born in the U.S. In 1889 the Treasury Department—which then oversaw immigration—decided that a native-born child could not be sent out of the country with her foreign-born mother. Nor did the government want to hurt the U.S. citizen by expelling her mother and leaving her without a guardian. So it admitted the foreign-born mother to take care of the citizen child.

The Treasury concluded that it was not “the intention of Congress to sever the sacred ties existing between parent and child, or forcibly banish and expatriate a native-born child for the reason that its parent is a pauper.”

It seemed the law was settled.

Then, in May 2023, then–presidential candidate Donald J. Trump released a video promising that on “Day One” of a new presidential term, he would issue an executive order that would end birthright citizenship. He claimed that the understanding that anyone born in the United States is automatically a citizen is “based on an historical myth, and a willful misinterpretation of the law by the open borders advocates.” His assertion came from recent writings by right-wing operatives claiming that the accepted understanding of the Fourteenth Amendment is wrong.

As soon as he took office, he issued the executive order saying that individuals born in the United States are not citizens if their parents do not have legal permanent status.

One judge after another has sided against Trump on this issue, and on April 1, 2026, when the Supreme Court held oral arguments on the case, Trump became the first president ever to attend such arguments, breaking precedent to take a seat in the front row of the Supreme Court’s public seating area alongside then–attorney general Pam Bondi and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick. He apparently showed up at the Supreme Court to try to intimidate the three judges who owe their seats on the bench to him, pressuring them into supporting his own radical reworking of one of the key principles of our nation. He left after an hour and a half, before Cecillia Wang, the ACLU lawyer arguing for the plaintiffs, began to speak.

Today the Supreme Court under Chief Justice John Roberts upheld birthright citizenship. But, as Jonathan V. Last of The Bulwark notes, the Supreme Court should never have taken this case. The lower court judges who heard the case were appalled that the administration was attacking the clear terms of the Constitution. Judge John Coughenour, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan, called Trump’s executive order “blatantly unconstitutional” and said: “I’ve been on the bench for over four decades. I can’t remember another case where the question presented was as clear as this one is. This is a blatantly unconstitutional order.”

And yet the vote to uphold the Fourteenth Amendment was not unanimous; it was 6 to 3. And one of those six justices upholding birthright citizenship, Brett Kavanaugh, wrote that his objection to Trump’s attack on birthright citizenship was based not in the Constitution, but rather in his belief that Trump’s executive order violates a law. If Congress rewrote that law, he wrote, he would be willing to overturn birthright citizenship.

Four of nine Supreme Court justices are willing to rewrite the Constitution by fiat.

Although the court’s decision simply upheld the conditions that have been in place for more than a century, MAGA is treating it as a dramatic and dangerous change. “Now that [the Supreme Court] has opened the floodgates for foreign invaders to flock across our borders and spawn, the only choice we have is to triple down on immigration enforcement,” wrote right-wing podcast host Matt Walsh. “Militarize the border. Mass deportations. Round every illegal up. Don’t pull back when the lesbian activists start screeching about it. Use whatever force is necessary. There is no other option.”
 
Although the court’s decision simply upheld the conditions that have been in place for more than a century, MAGA is treating it as a dramatic and dangerous change. “Now that [the Supreme Court] has opened the floodgates for foreign invaders to flock across our borders and spawn, the only choice we have is to triple down on immigration enforcement,” wrote right-wing podcast host Matt Walsh. “Militarize the border. Mass deportations. Round every illegal up. Don’t pull back when the lesbian activists start screeching about it. Use whatever force is necessary. There is no other option.”
That's what's so odd to me - this is the way it's been for longer than anyone has been alive, yet some MAGA folks act like SCOTUS just rewrote the 14A. All they did was confirm the long-standing interpretation of it.

Don't like it, tough. it can be changed via Constitutional Amendment. I'd love to see that happen, but it likely won't.

But acting like the interpretation of the 14th Amendment is any different today than it was a week (or a century) ago is disingenuous at best.
 
That's what's so odd to me - this is the way it's been for longer than anyone has been alive, yet some MAGA folks act like SCOTUS just rewrote the 14A. All they did was confirm the long-standing interpretation of it.

Don't like it, tough. it can be changed via Constitutional Amendment. I'd love to see that happen, but it likely won't.

But acting like the interpretation of the 14th Amendment is any different today than it was a week (or a century) ago is disingenuous at best.
"Jus soli" is a lot older than the 14th...
 
Sure, but not every country adheres to that concept. It's in our Constitution, so it's the law - people acting like this week's decision is changing anything are either ignorant or deceptive.
I'm trying to agree. Maybe I should have been more elaborate and said the we adopted it along with the rest of English Common Law (with the usual exception - in our case slavery and the Monarch.) England recognized former slaves as "British Subjects" in 1833. However, they weren't granted full rights until - 1948. I suppose most here realize that the UK has abolished birthright citizenship...
 
The problem here is this administration is maybe 1 SCOTUS vote from bringing the Supreme Court and the congressional courts under its heel and at that point we will be living in a full-own dictatorship.

Several posters in here are intent on continuing to walking by the grave. Keep doing it and you eventually fall in.
 
 
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Yeah, I doubt the number is large, but if it can be stopped, why not do so?

That's my point in any of these discussions - if something is unhealthy for the US, we should try to manage it - especially if the cost is negligible.
 
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Yeah, I doubt the number is large, but if it can be stopped, why not do so?

That's my point in any of these discussions - if something is unhealthy for the US, we should try to manage it - especially if the cost is negligible.

I bet most in the country would agree, but they also recognize there's a right and wrong way to go about it. Congress really needs to be involved and we all know how effective they can be..... :rolleyes:
 
Yeah, I doubt the number is large, but if it can be stopped, why not do so?

That's my point in any of these discussions - if something is unhealthy for the US, we should try to manage it - especially if the cost is negligible.
Penn St estimate: 5,000 -10,000 births yearly
Center for Immigration Studies: 20,000 - 26,000
Other estimates have gone as high as 33,000

The number is not tracked so no one really knows.
 
Penn St estimate: 5,000 -10,000 births yearly
Center for Immigration Studies: 20,000 - 26,000
Other estimates have gone as high as 33,000

The number is not tracked so no one really knows.
I have not fully thought this through... But why not pass a law that anchor babies become wards of the state in which they are born who are placed in foster care of a bona fide citizen meeting certain requirements and further eligible for adoption. Illegal parents are detained but have visitation rights for a short period of time or until adoption is final. The illegal parents are then deported but allowed to return annually for 2 weeks to visit their child if agreeable to the adoptive parents.
 
I have not fully thought this through... But why not pass a law that anchor babies become wards of the state in which they are born who are placed in foster care of a bona fide citizen meeting certain requirements and further eligible for adoption. Illegal parents are detained but have visitation rights for a short period of time or until adoption is final. The illegal parents are then deported but allowed to return annually for 2 weeks to visit their child if agreeable to the adoptive parents.
That would impose an additional burden on already overloaded state child welfare agencies, not to mention the problem of investigation. I'm afraid it sounds better in theory than it would be in practicality...
 
I’ve zero problem with preventing pregnant women from entering if they are far enough along. Anchor babies don’t benefit the any of us.
I've seen numbers all over the place but there is a decent number of children being raised in China as Chinese citizens with CCP values that are US citizens and can come back at any time because, anchor babies. That sounds like a bad idea.

I've seen the number from 1,000,000, which seems to be way too high, down to 50,000 and even less in some reports. Whatever the number is China is our enemy on every level whether we all want to admit it or not, and we have actual US citizens that are being raised by our enemies and can come on in at any time. That sounds like a bad idea.
 
They'll deport the parents, as they currently do. The choice to take the child with (no-brainer for most people) is the parents'.

I read that a Nigerian woman (UK resident) who was due any day wasn't allowed on a flight to the US the other day as it seemed obvious why she was flying here. That's certainly one way to handle it - if you're obviously pregnant, you cannot visit.
Unless you're a Russian woman flying to Miami for the express purpose of creating an anchor baby and you're considered "White" by the current regime.

https://apnews.com/general-news-travel-161a0db2666044dc8d42932edd9b9ce6
 
I don't like it at all. My problem is I don't know how to throw out the bath without the baby going with it. Jus Soli was considered almost sacred when I was growing up. "Born here and you belong here." I can't see a clear way to outlaw the instances like the Russian women without a lot of collateral damage, barring legitimate candidates, raised as Americans, from citizenship. It seems callous to see it as just black and white. I remember my early trips to Europe and talking to Turkish-origin people who were and lived in Switzerland all their lives, spoke that brand of German as a first language, yet had zero possibility of becoming Swiss citizens. As an American, it just hit me in the gut as wrong and unfair. Apparently, I'm no longer "typical."*

*Talk about a tough country to belong in, your village has to vote on you and whether you're "Swiss" enough. I remember about one lady who'd lived in a village for 15 years and still got voted down. Obviously not very popular...
 
I don't like it at all. My problem is I don't know how to throw out the bath without the baby going with it. Jus Soli was considered almost sacred when I was growing up. "Born here and you belong here." I can't see a clear way to outlaw the instances like the Russian women without a lot of collateral damage, barring legitimate candidates, raised as Americans, from citizenship. It seems callous to see it as just black and white. I remember my early trips to Europe and talking to Turkish-origin people who were and lived in Switzerland all their lives, spoke that brand of German as a first language, yet had zero possibility of becoming Swiss citizens. As an American, it just hit me in the gut as wrong and unfair. Apparently, I'm no longer "typical."*

*Talk about a tough country to belong in, your village has to vote on you and whether you're "Swiss" enough. I remember about one lady who'd lived in a village for 15 years and still got voted down. Obviously not very popular...
I think a good compromise would be allowing the person born here to immigrant parents to apply for citizenship when they turn 18 via a streamlined system. It would allow us to determine whether or not the person was really 'American' or not.

Of course, that would be ripe for abuse (like most any system, really) - but would set a different standard than an immigrant while not allowing full citizenship just because.
 
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I think a good compromise would be allowing the person born here to immigrant parents to apply for citizenship when they turn 18 via a streamlined system. It would allow us to determine whether or not the person was really 'American' or not.

Of course, that would be ripe for abuse (like most any system, really) - but would set a different standard than an immigrant while not allowing full citizenship just because.
Many countries have provisions which add on conditions like that and I don't have a real problem with it. The main hurdle would be getting the requisite majorities for a constitutional amendment...
 
The Atlantic gift article

These Justices Are Not Impartial​

Why such a slim Supreme Court majority upheld birthright citizenship

In 1898, the same Supreme Court that upheld Jim Crow segregation as constitutional also upheld the Fourteenth Amendment’s guarantee of birthright citizenship, by a 6–2 vote. This was a profoundly racist Court in a profoundly racist era—around the peak of the lynching epidemic—that nonetheless could find no way around the plain text of the Constitution, and was forced to affirm that people of Chinese descent could be citizens.

Nearly 130 years later, in our much more enlightened time, that bedrock guarantee drew more opposition at the Supreme Court. This week, in Trump v. Barbara, a 6–3 majority struck down President Trump’s executive order repealing birthright citizenship for undocumented immigrants and temporary visitors. But only five justices voted to invalidate the order on constitutional grounds. The other four indicated varying degrees of openness to narrowing birthright citizenship, if not exactly along the lines that the Trump administration had sought.

By ruling with such a slim majority, “the Court has just handed right-wingers a new bloody shirt to wave in every single political campaign,” Aderson Francois, a law professor at Georgetown University, told me. “The main legacy of the decision is that for the next few years, this will become the new Roe v. Wade.” After all, conservatives now know they are only one vote away from eliminating birthright citizenship by judicial fiat.

The Fourteenth Amendment has not changed since 1898. What have changed are the Republican Party and the modern conservative movement. Trump believes that “if you import the Third World, you become the Third World.” His rise to power began with his willingness to be a standard-bearer for a movement that cast the first Black president as an illegitimate invader and demanded to see his birth certificate. Trump’s second-term campaign promised “mass deportation” of those very same “Third World” immigrants, and since taking office, he has established an effectively whites-only refugee policy, specifically for white South Africans, illustrating that his objection is less to immigration itself, or to immigrants from the “Third World,” than to immigrants who are not white.
 
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