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AJ McCarron Wins Grievance Against Bengals and Will Become Free Agent (Signs with Buffalo)

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rgw said:
He knew to toe the party line in Tuscaloosa. Back in 2013 there was some insinuation that he instilled a seniority culture in the locker room that didn't jive with a lot the underclassmen. Late in his career his ego started rubbing guys in Amari Cooper's class and the class behind him (the Jon Allen and OJ Howard class) the wrong way.
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So what you're saying is that Barrett Jones left and AJ turned back into a snit.......(One of my favorite moments....)
 
Re: AJ McCarron Wins Grievance Against Bengals and Will Become Free Agent

FWIW it looks like the Broncos have traded Trevor Siemian to the Vikes so that’s a qb out of AJ’s way but that completely closes the Vikes and Broncos.

Tannehill is expected to get a contract increase at Miami.

So really the Bills and Cards are the only places he can compete at this moment. But it seems the Bills are playing power draft and cheap FA qb. And the Cards will play Sam Bradford and new guy.

So his options after that are probably NE ( if there is a real offer) and going back to Cincinnati.
 
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DzynKingRTR said:
Steve Deberg played til he was 45. He became the oldest starter ever. While a decent player, he was not nearly as talented as Brady.
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OK, having lived through DeBerg's entire career, there are quite a few differences here:

1) DeBerg DID play at age 44 (he was on the roster in SB 33 less than two weeks after he turned 45, but he didn't play), but he also took five years away from the NFL that Brady didn't.

2) While both Brady and DeBerg became starters at age 24, DeBerg had 139 career starts with 66 relief appearances. Brady has started 251 games. Keep in mind that's ONLY regular season. Throw in the post-season numbers: DeBerg had four starts and Brady 37. Just by STARTS, Brady has played almost TEN FULL REGULAR SEASONS worth of games than DeBerg did at the same age.

3) DeBerg played in a more running oriented era. In his best season he threw for 3,652 yards on a 2-14 team; Brady has exceeded that total THIRTEEN TIMES....and remember, this is only his regular season passing yards. In 18 seasons, Brady only got less than DeBerg's best five times - once he was a backup all year (2000), once he was injured in the first game of the season (2008), once he didn't become the starter until game three (2001), and the other two times he nearly exceeded it anyway.

4) Most folks posting here have never even heard of Steve DeBerg.
 
Re: AJ McCarron Wins Grievance Against Bengals and Will Become Free Agent

81usaf92 said:
FWIW it looks like the Broncos have traded Trevor Siemian to the Vikes so that’s a qb out of AJ’s way but that completely closes the Vikes and Broncos.

Tannehill is expected to get a contract increase at Miami.

So really the Bills and Cards are the only places he can compete at this moment. But it seems the Bills are playing power draft and cheap FA qb. And the Cards will play Sam Bradford and new guy.

So his options after that are probably NE ( if there is a real offer) and going back to Cincinnati.
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Cards are out. They just signed Mike Glennon.

So the Bills....
 
Re: AJ McCarron Wins Grievance Against Bengals and Will Become Free Agent

selmaborntidefan said:
OK, having lived through DeBerg's entire career, there are quite a few differences here:

1) DeBerg DID play at age 44 (he was on the roster in SB 33 less than two weeks after he turned 45, but he didn't play), but he also took five years away from the NFL that Brady didn't.

2) While both Brady and DeBerg became starters at age 24, DeBerg had 139 career starts with 66 relief appearances. Brady has started 251 games. Keep in mind that's ONLY regular season. Throw in the post-season numbers: DeBerg had four starts and Brady 37. Just by STARTS, Brady has played almost TEN FULL REGULAR SEASONS worth of games than DeBerg did at the same age.

3) DeBerg played in a more running oriented era. In his best season he threw for 3,652 yards on a 2-14 team; Brady has exceeded that total THIRTEEN TIMES....and remember, this is only his regular season passing yards. In 18 seasons, Brady only got less than DeBerg's best five times - once he was a backup all year (2000), once he was injured in the first game of the season (2008), once he didn't become the starter until game three (2001), and the other two times he nearly exceeded it anyway.

4) Most folks posting here have never even heard of Steve DeBerg.
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When exactly did I say Steve Deberg was exactly like Brady? I know there are huge differences. I merely said Deberg played when he was old as dirt (44-45 is freaking ancient in football years). Can brady play until he is that old? Who knows? Sorry for getting off topic. Now the reason it was brought up is pointless because AJ has signed with the Bills.

Back to topic.

I know absolutely nothing about the Bills. Is this good or bad for AJ?
 
Re: AJ McCarron Wins Grievance Against Bengals and Will Become Free Agent

DzynKingRTR said:
When exactly did I say Steve Deberg was exactly like Brady? I know there are huge differences. I merely said Deberg played when he was old as dirt (44-45 is freaking ancient in football years). Can brady play until he is that old? Who knows? Sorry for getting off topic. Now the reason it was brought up is pointless because AJ has signed with the Bills.

Back to topic.

I know absolutely nothing about the Bills. Is this good or bad for AJ?
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Daboll is the OC for Bills. AJ is the QB. They can make it work.
 
DzynKingRTR said:
When exactly did I say Steve Deberg was exactly like Brady? I know there are huge differences. I merely said Deberg played when he was old as dirt (44-45 is freaking ancient in football years). Can brady play until he is that old? Who knows? Sorry for getting off topic. Now the reason it was brought up is pointless because AJ has signed with the Bills.

Back to topic.

I know absolutely nothing about the Bills. Is this good or bad for AJ?
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He is directly competing with a guy who threw 5 ints in a half. The Bills are trying to get a top 5 pick for qb. So he probably has 7-8 games before they start talking about starting the new guy if the Bills aren’t winning. But AJ just needs pt for tape.

Leshaun mccoy is their best player on offense unless I’m forgetting someone
 
Peterman is awful. McCarron is being brought in because Peterman is not good enough to bridge them over to the QB they will definitely draft this year. I hope he and his team does well enough to start every game this year. If the team is really bad then he could get benched regardless so...
 
Re: AJ McCarron Wins Grievance Against Bengals and Will Become Free Agent

Just my opinion, but AJ is another in the long line of Alabama QBs who were good at the collegiate level but never carried over to the NFL.
 
GrayTide said:
Just my opinion, but AJ is another in the long line of Alabama QBs who were good at the collegiate level but never carried over to the NFL.
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We dont know that yet. He needs a full season of work to really judge. But he has zilch to work with. His best pass catcher imo is Clay at tight end. I would have liked to see him in cleveland with the moves they hav made. I respect your opinion though
 
He wanted to play and this was the place available for him to play...I suspect a very short tenure as a starter whether he's good or bad. He'd have to be great to stave off the Bills management's desire to play their likely top of the 1st round pick at QB. I don't see this team being good next year. AJ is coming in to save half a season of wear and tear on their hopeful future at QB that they'll be drafting next month.
 
gamersfuel said:
We dont know that yet. He needs a full season of work to really judge. But he has zilch to work with. His best pass catcher imo is Clay at tight end. I would have liked to see him in cleveland with the moves they hav made. I respect your opinion though
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Nah, I'm with Gray here. We pretty much DO know.

How often do you have a quarterback that wasn't doing much of anything but who suddenly shoots lights out several years into his career? Almost invariably, every QB kinda comes in the league with some decent expectations and either produces or doesn't. Rare is the guy who looks "blah" but then suddenly morphs into something great. YES, it CAN happen but odds are against it.

I mean, the reason he hasn't had a full season is because the coaches who watched him play every day didn't think he was better than whoever they put in front of him. (I'll just use the same thing I say about Colin Kaepernick here.....if he could play effectively, he'd be starting).

I root for our guys, but I just never thought AJ was an NFL quarterback anyway.
 
rgw said:
He wanted to play and this was the place available for him to play...I suspect a very short tenure as a starter whether he's good or bad. He'd have to be great to stave off the Bills management's desire to play their likely top of the 1st round pick at QB. I don't see this team being good next year. AJ is coming in to save half a season of wear and tear on their hopeful future at QB that they'll be drafting next month.
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In all likelihood he’s going to probably be handed off the ball off LeSean McCoy guy until they need to have a passing game or that young buck gets ready to take over
 
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