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Alabama QB competition article

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B1GTide said:
No matter who he is, he knows no more about Saban's strategy for playing these QBs in game one than anyone here.
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Well just going by what I’ve seen when Saban has a QB battle into the season, both Tua and Jalen will rotate if it’s a blowout. If it’s a close game (West Virginia 2014) then he’ll stick with one QB.
 
Re: Alabama QB competition article (ALL QB posts here, please)

B1GTide said:
No matter who he is, he knows no more about Saban's strategy for playing these QBs in game one than anyone here.
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maybe so..........and until the first snap is taken, we wont have a clue. I'm just hoping it's Tua..............I'd hate to lose him because loyalty won out over ability
 
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Re: Alabama QB competition article (ALL QB posts here, please)

My thoughts are whoever plays the first offensive series will be replaced by the other in the second series.
So, with that in mind, if that happens:
Starter leads scoring drive, so does backup
Starter leads scoring drive, backup doesn’t
Starter doesn’t lead scoring drive, backup does
What then? I’m sure circumstances will be relevant (Blake Barnett says hi), but IF the QB’s are rotated and they both lead scoring drives each time they’re in the game (with Cardinal defense this is very possible), what then? Co-starters? Especially if their stats are similar? Does CNS just pick one and deal with the consequences?
With the talent on offense outside of the QB’s, I see a very real possibility that, based on performance in this game alone, their play may not separate them much if any at all.
Then what?


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Re: Alabama QB competition article (ALL QB posts here, please)

B1GTide said:
No matter who he is, he knows no more about Saban's strategy for playing these QBs in game one than anyone here.
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Some folks say it definitely is a former player (and at least one supposed "insider" says it's definitely Maze) and if that's so, then a former player will absolutely know Saban better than anybody that hasn't spent a lot of time with the man. If you've played for a man for 3 or 4 years, you're going to have a better clue what he will do in a team situation than most folks will. Not even a current player can say for sure what Saban will do, but to say a player doesn't know more than anyone on a message board isn't reasonable.
 
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twofbyc said:
My thoughts are whoever plays the first offensive series will be replaced by the other in the second series.
So, with that in mind, if that happens:
Starter leads scoring drive, so does backup
Starter leads scoring drive, backup doesn’t
Starter doesn’t lead scoring drive, backup does
What then? I’m sure circumstances will be relevant (Blake Barnett says hi), but IF the QB’s are rotated and they both lead scoring drives each time they’re in the game (with Cardinal defense this is very possible), what then? Co-starters? Especially if their stats are similar? Does CNS just pick one and deal with the consequences?
With the talent on offense outside of the QB’s, I see a very real possibility that, based on performance in this game alone, their play may not separate them much if any at all.
Then what?


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Even in a case like that, there are other criteria. Who has the better pocket presence, who hits the receivers in stride rather than the receiver having to adjust to the ball, who checks down to secondary receivers, who makes the correct choice on run/pass/option, who reads the defense better. Nearly every one of these things one player has consistently done better than the other guy, so frankly, I don't even know why it's still a competition. Finally, Saban keeps saying whoever wins the team will be the choice. Seems like it's risking a divided team to carry this long into the season, but maybe not. Note that I didn't say it will create a divided team. I just said it would seem to be risking that.
 
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I can understand why fans are concerned, but we just have to let it play out.

What does Alabama gain by allowing the competition to run its course:
- it keeps both QBs competing all out under pressure for a longer period
- it fulfils CNS's claim that all jobs are open - that's why he doesn't have a depth chart
- it shows that a starter is given a full opportunity to retain his job, not one person can ever say that Jalen was just discarded after a bad half
- it keeps Jalen engaged and part of the team, something he apparently wants - to be part of this team/program
- etc.

What does Alabama lose by allowing the competition to run its course:
- the starter may not get quite as many reps with the ones as he otherwise would. But we don't know that starting with UL prep that Tua won't get them all.
- some fans' blood pressure has mounted :smile:

The pros and cons make the decision obvious - let it play out.
 
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Well coach needs to start who ever wins the team because that is what he has preached the whole offseason. Now there is a lot that goes into who wins the team.

Personally, I think he will start Tua. But just because Tua starts doesn't mean he has won the job. In order to solidify himself as the starter he has to protect the football and control the clock. Sure he has big play potential but this defense will need a heavy helping of efficient ball control offense from this team. If he doesn't do that effectively and consistently it opens the door for Jalen get back under center.

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Crimson White said:
Some folks say it definitely is a former player (and at least one supposed "insider" says it's definitely Maze) and if that's so, then a former player will absolutely know Saban better than anybody that hasn't spent a lot of time with the man. If you've played for a man for 3 or 4 years, you're going to have a better clue what he will do in a team situation than most folks will. Not even a current player can say for sure what Saban will do, but to say a player doesn't know more than anyone on a message board isn't reasonable.
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We can agree to disagree.
 
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CrimsonProf said:
Y'all need to realize that Hurts is going to play Saturday. I think he'll keep his redshirt, but he's playing early this season.
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More importantly, Saban now knows what he has in Tua. His decisions this year come with an understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of both of these guys. They are both known quantities to the best head coach in the history of the game. If Saban has hesitated to change QBs in the past it is because of this, not loyalty.
 
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CrimsonProf said:
Y'all need to realize that Hurts is going to play Saturday. I think he'll keep his redshirt, but he's playing early this season.
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It wouldn't surprise me and frankly I am at the point that I don't care which of them start. I just want it to be Saturday already.
 
Re: Alabama QB competition article (ALL QB posts here, please)

A review of my posts will show I've said for months that both will play in the first game and perhaps up to the 3rd, but I think Tua is clearly the better qb. I have also said that Saban is arguably the greatest ever college football coach (Bryant and Eddie Robinson are contenders) but I think he'd be even better if he'd leave the offense to the coaches he pays good money to run it.

edit: It's not as important who starts as to who eventually prevails, but you can be assured it's important to the two qbs who starts that first game.
 
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Re: Alabama QB competition article (ALL QB posts here, please)

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Typically, the 2nd string QB is the most popular guy on the team. If Tua is the starter, will the fans be calling for Jalen to play?
 
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