Alabama QBs in 2024

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deltatider

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My uninformed opinion on the whole question of whether or not Milroe can read defenses is that I do think Milroe can read a defense in the sense that when he’s watching film he can identify what the defense is trying to do and he knows what he’s supposed to do based on what he’s seeing…. That said I don’t think he’s able to make those decisions quick enough when he’s seeing things live and in action. I just think he struggles with processing the information quick enough a lot of times which I think did limit what the team could do offensively….there were so many times on called pass plays that he could have tucked the ball for a decent gain only to hold on til the last second and either have him take a sack, barely get back to the line, or throw it away at the absolute last second. Not only did he not take advantage of his running skills, he also put the offense behind the chains too many times. But my biggest red flag with Milroe came some time around the SEC championship game….someone else referenced this in another post; but Cole Cublic mentioned that Bama had not run as much RPO as they would have liked because Milroe wasn’t comfortable with the RPO game….he then want on to say that all read option type plays are pre-determined by OC and did not rely on Milroe to make the read.
 

AlexanderFan

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I accept your stated credentials for what they are.

What about the multitudes of other people on here talking mechanics, development, coaching and all that stuff.

Fundamentals may stay the same, but the ability to execute and coach them is what I'm talking about.

I know the fundamentals of soccer and tennis, but I'm not going to claim to know as much as a major D1 player or coach in those sports.

Moreover, I suspect there's a lot more than basic-level fundamentals in terms of reading defenses and stuff like that for a QB at the SEC level and developing players to do that kind of stuff.
Yes yes we get it, the criticism of Milroe is invalid because the people criticizing haven’t played D1 football, coached D1 football , played in a Super Bowl, touched Vince Lombardi’s hat, caught a Dan Marino touchdown pass, or took a handoff from Joe Montana.

Most of the criticism from posters here is the same criticism that comes from people with qualifications to asses/critique quarterback performance.



Geeze at the identity politics.
 

Ledsteplin

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Just posting what I read elsewhere. Ty was "sharp" and Mack had some wow throws apparently. 🤷‍♂️
Nothing wrong with that. But it was said in a way that leads one to think the other QBs didn't do well. And they've all been doing really great. But it's nice to see specific plays that catch someone's eye, and they post about it. Practice notes are currently all we have.
 
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davefrat

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Yes yes we get it, the criticism of Milroe is invalid because the people criticizing haven’t played D1 football, coached D1 football , played in a Super Bowl, touched Vince Lombardi’s hat, caught a Dan Marino touchdown pass, or took a handoff from Joe Montana.

Most of the criticism from posters here is the same criticism that comes from people with qualifications to asses/critique quarterback performance.



Geeze at the identity politics.
Never said any of those things.

And not sure where your identity politics comment in any way relates to my post.

Your entire post is a total failure in terms of accuracy and hyperbole.

Swing and a miss!

Happy Easter.
 
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jjv0004

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Yes yes we get it, the criticism of Milroe is invalid because the people criticizing haven’t played D1 football, coached D1 football , played in a Super Bowl, touched Vince Lombardi’s hat, caught a Dan Marino touchdown pass, or took a handoff from Joe Montana.

Most of the criticism from posters here is the same criticism that comes from people with qualifications to asses/critique quarterback performance.



Geeze at the identity politics.
So by your logic there should be no coaches in any sport who have not played that sport at a high level. Mike Tomlin says hello for starters. I can go on and on and on.
 

davefrat

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So by your logic there should be no coaches in any sport who have not played that sport at a high level. Mike Tomlin says hello for starters. I can go on and on and on.
The post you are replying to was an ill-fated, poorly executed attempt to ridicule one of my posts.

He's not saying that, he's saying I'm saying that...which is a complete distortion of what I posted...with a little bit of nonsense and a lot of hyberbole thrown in to create a completely fetid stew.
 

Rocky Mtn Bob

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It would be interesting to know what the staff's thoughts were on Milroe as a recruit.

Did they see him as needing tons of development in those areas, or did they simply flop on evaluating him.

It wouldn't surprise me if Milroe, like many superior athletes at the high school level, simply dominated his opponents on physical ability alone.
I coached high school tennis, in Colorado, for 19 years. In 2009 I had an incoming Freshman I figured was good enough to play Doubles his first year. In tryouts he beat EVERYBODY in Singles(!). He was our #1 singles player for four years. When he was a freshman he was very coachable; I helped him get even better than he already was by changing and teaching him techniques he did not have in his arsenal.

The next three years were frustrating with this player. He was so certain he knew everything, neither I nor any of my assistant coaches could teach him a thing. His physical skills were good; his ability to spot trends and make adjustments in his game (mental) were WORSE than when he was a freshman.

I still remember one match where his opponent's backhand was his strongest shot, and my player kept hitting TO his backhand. The opponent *ran around his forehand* to hit more backhands ... which is just about unheard of ... but his BH really was that much better. I was finally able to point this out to my player halfway through the first set. My player argued with me, "Coach, I know what I'm doing." (He didn't.)

Typing this, I'm getting agitated all over again. I *know* we coaches could have helped him improve ... if his ego had allowed him to listen.

I don't know Jalen Milroe, but I strongly suspect he's listening to his coaches and doing his level best to employ what they're teaching him.
 
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mlh

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Interesting stuff in the video. Thanks for posting. It sounds like we have a young staff that is doing all they can to coach up the players, and the players are excited to get the coaching that (maybe) they weren't getting previously. Very encouraging.
 
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