Alabama QBs in 2024

[B1GTide]

I remain more concerned that we're having these discussions about QB, center / OL, etc than I am about the individual players.

The 2023 Alabama football team was the most talented (on paper, according to recruiting rankings) of any CFB ever, yet they never felt dominant. It concerns me that our coaching staff seems good but not elite. And ALL of this lands on the desk of the HC.

I don't care about how many 5* Bama has if they aren't coached to their potential and put in a position to properly execute. And we've not seen a truly dominant Bama team in almost half a decade now (2020 will always be unique).

So at this point discussions about QBs, position groups, etc. feels an awful lot like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic to me.

I don't disagree. You lost a season playing Milroe. By that I mean that you go into next season with the same QB problem that you came into this season with. You could have developed a real QB, but instead chose to win games with Milroe.

I get it. You beat all of your rivals and won the SECCG- that is not "nothing". So, you have something to show for it. But next year - same as this year - no experienced QB to lead the team to a championship.

I hopeful that the o line will improve, but they only played one good game all season this year. One. Out of 14. Unacceptable

 

[B1GTide]

Worked out pretty good. Lets not forget Michigan has an elite defense. They have confused every qb they've face all year. Kyle McCord looked good against everyone else except for Michigan. The guy does not throw interceptions and threw 2 to Michigan. We had the lead with 3 minutes to go. This wasn't a Ohio State situation where the QB throws an interception that directly cost them the game. Before the Ohio State game I thought the Michigan's defense was over rated because they hadn't played a top offense. After the Ohio State game my eye brows raised. Then they dominated us in the trenches and our receivers couldn't get separation.

Maybe if another QB had played we would have still been where we were last night maybe not. Maybe that other QB would have won the game for us probably not. The players pick the qb every year. Coach Saban has always said you must win the locker room. The players loved Jalen Hurts but they chose Tua. Coach Saban stubornly stuck with JH when clearly the locker room wanted Tua after seeing what he was doing in practice. If the new guy comes in and light it up have no doubt the players will choose him. Have no doubt the players want to win.

Bottom line that Michigan defense is elite and they are well coached and discipline. I kept pausing the game trying to see if we had guys open and just not throwing it to them. For the most part we didn't. Their coverage was excellent all night.

The National Championship game should be really good. MP has the running ability of JM with additional lateral mobility and the ability to throw the ball all over the field. He also has 6 years of college playing experience. This is a top 5 offense vs a top 5 defense. Michigan was clearly up for playing us if they get up for playing Washington I think they win that game also.

No, they were playing zone. The receivers were open every single time I looked. You just have to know how to read a zone defense and throw a receiver open.

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

I think I just go back to what I said after USF (I think that's when it was) the dynasty is over. We are one of the top teams but not THE top team.

We are capable of winning another title but we're probably not heading for another dynasty run. It's always possible I guess.

The sunshine pumping story would be that Milroe improves and/or Sayin is that dude and we win 2-3 with them. Then we sign Seaborn and he is also elite. But that's putting a lot on QBs.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

I don’t think Sayin will get a chance unless Milroe struggles. Milroe has the team.

and I have no idea why. did we even have a receiver approach 1000 yards?

looks like Burton had 798 and Bond had 668

 

[BamaMoon]

Look no further then the last play Michigan knew milroe couldn’t throw it what else could we have called. Yes he did win us some games but he was the reason he had to win those games in the first place. It’s not one play it’s 4-6 during a game that instead of taking a 10-12 yard pass to open receiver he never sees him because he is locked on the go route at 50 yards.Then we go 3 and out or it’s second and 10 instead of moving chains

Ironically, if JM could "see" what was about to happening he could have audible and hit Roydell for a walk in TD too. It was the easiest path to a TD on that play, even though it wasn't the "called" play.

I don't disagree. You lost a season playing Milroe. By that I mean that you go into next season with the same QB problem that you came into this season with. You could have developed a real QB, but instead chose to win games with Milroe.

I get it. You beat all of your rivals and won the SECCG- that is not "nothing". So, you have something to show for it. But next year - same as this year - no experienced QB to lead the team to a championship.

I hopeful that the o line will improve, but they only played one good game all season this year. One. Out of 14. Unacceptable

Last statement is total truth. We played one complete game this year. Got up for the big SEC challenge and must have thought we conquered the mountain when we beat the two time defending champs.

It's why I said this year is the most frustrating season of Bama football I can remember. We never knew what a game held. We were as dependable as an 8th grade hormonal girl in middle school. Never knew what we were gonna get.

I think I just go back to what I said after USF (I think that's when it was) the dynasty is over. We are one of the top teams but not THE top team.

We are capable of winning another title but we're probably not heading for another dynasty run. It's always possible I guess.

The sunshine-pumping story would be that Milroe improves and/or Sayin is that dude and we win 2-3 with them. Then we sign Seaborn and he is also elite. But that's putting a lot on QBs.

I don't think you are wrong about the dynasty. in 2011-2015 we were clearly the top program. Too many other teams have not got up with elite coaching, much off CNS's coaching tree and elite talent.

 

[jjv0004]

My ideal scenario for next year. Sayin starts and we get 3 years with him. I am confident we might win it all at least 1 of those years. If Milroe starts again next year, we make the 12 team playoff but we aren't winning it. Maybe we miss the playoff but we are better prepared for the next 2 years. I think the best shot for a title in the next 3 years is if Sayin starts his run as QB next year.

 

[Tide&True]

Basically what turned things around for Milroe this year is when the coaches simplified things to fit his talents. However, with those changes he could only go so far. Milroe is a phenomenal athlete and with work he may get the rest of the way (which is the mental side of the game).

 

[Tidelines]

Milroe had a look of doubt, or confusion in his eyes everytime they showed him last night. Just didn't look like a leader to me. Michigan must of really had him confused.

 

[REBELZED]

Milroe had a look of doubt, or confusion in his eyes everytime they showed him last night. Just didn't look like a leader to me. Michigan must of really had him confused.

He looked that way often this season IMO...

 

[spidermayin]

He looked that way often this season IMO...

I was watching some of the Washington game last night and Michael Penix Jr. looked so natural and poised throwing the ball. I would be interested to see how he looks against Michigan's defense. That's the first time I have really sat down and watched Penix Jr. play and came away really impressed. Milroe does come across nervous and that really showed on a couple of runs last night when I thought he should have just ran and tried to get the first down, but instead he slowed down as if he was scared of the contact and slid down. I know he's not scared of contact because I've seen him put a lick on people, but for some reason, there was at least one play where it looked like he yielded instead of being the aggressor.

 

[Mystical]

No, they were playing zone. The receivers were open every single time I looked. You just have to know how to read a zone defense and throw a receiver open.

Every single time?

 

[landonew]

JM had his opportunities and came up short.

I really enjoyed watching JM compete and improve over the course of this season. Yesterday does not erase the progress he's made, and it does not change the trajectory of JM's improvement. I am excited to see JM continue to develop next year as the starting QB for Alabama.

 

[denver]

I was watching some of the Washington game last night and Michael Penix Jr. looked so natural and poised throwing the ball. I would be interested to see how he looks against Michigan's defense. That's the first time I have really sat down and watched Penix Jr. play and came away really impressed. Milroe does come across nervous and that really showed on a couple of runs last night when I thought he should have just ran and tried to get the first down, but instead he slowed down as if he was scared of the contact and slid down. I know he's not scared of contact because I've seen him put a lick on people, but for some reason, there was at least one play where it looked like he yielded instead of being the aggressor.

Penix/Ewers both showed the ability to read the defense pre-snap and adjust...JM gets the play call and either follows that runs...and takes too long making that decision....he has limited ability to adjust to what he sees at game speed

 

[KrAzY3]

One reason I'm not too hasty to judge Milroe is we haven't seen him in the same position to succeed we've seen from some of the previous Alabama QBs.

Clean pocket, good snaps, consistent running game. If he had those things and he still struggled I would view things a little differently.

Even with Milroe's scrambles, this team ran for only 172 yards per game for an average of 4.3 yards. I know some will point out the defenses have been playing the run, but it's not like this is the first time Alabama has had a limited passer.

That's still the second worst season Alabama has had running the ball since 2007. So, I'd really like to see improved OL play, a more reliable running game and then see if Milroe can improve alongside an improved offense.

 

[Mystical]

I don't disagree. You lost a season playing Milroe. By that I mean that you go into next season with the same QB problem that you came into this season with. You could have developed a real QB, but instead chose to win games with Milroe.

I get it. You beat all of your rivals and won the SECCG- that is not "nothing". So, you have something to show for it. But next year - same as this year - no experienced QB to lead the team to a championship.

I hopeful that the o line will improve, but they only played one good game all season this year. One. Out of 14. Unacceptable

That is so unfair. Did we lose a seaon by playing Bryce Young? Bryce Young won no national championships. The only thing that matters to the majority of our fan base, are championships. I feel pretty comfortable saying if Bryce had been the QB of this team, with the same offensive line, and no Jameson Williams, he would have lost last night also. With BY we didn't even make the SEC championship game last year. In my house Mac Jones, Tua, AJ, Greg, and Jake Coker all have a place of honor.

 

[irvingtontide]

That is so unfair. Did we lose a seaon by playing Bryce Young? Bryce Young won no national championships. The only thing that matters to the majority of our fan base, are championships. I feel pretty comfortable saying if Bryce had been the QB of this team, with the same offensive line, and no Jameson Williams, he would have lost last night also. With BY we didn't even make the SEC championship game last year. In my house Mac Jones, Tua, AJ, Greg, and Jake Coker all have a place of honor.

Bryce would have had a field day on the slant last night.

 

[Coach D]

That is so unfair. Did we lose a seaon by playing Bryce Young? Bryce Young won no national championships. The only thing that matters to the majority of our fan base, are championships. I feel pretty comfortable saying if Bryce had been the QB of this team, with the same offensive line, and no Jameson Williams, he would have lost last night also. With BY we didn't even make the SEC championship game last year. In my house Mac Jones, Tua, AJ, Greg, and Jake Coker all have a place of honor.

If Young was on this team they would still be undefeated. No doubt in my mind. With a couple blow outs too.

 

[B1GTide]

That is so unfair. Did we lose a seaon by playing Bryce Young? Bryce Young won no national championships. The only thing that matters to the majority of our fan base, are championships. I feel pretty comfortable saying if Bryce had been the QB of this team, with the same offensive line, and no Jameson Williams, he would have lost last night also. With BY we didn't even make the SEC championship game last year. In my house Mac Jones, Tua, AJ, Greg, and Jake Coker all have a place of honor.

Not lost because you did not win a championship as those are never guaranteed - lost because you did nothing to improve your QB position for next year when it was clearly the position of greatest need

 

[landonew]

Not lost because you did not win a championship as those are never guaranteed - lost because you did nothing to improve your QB position for next year when it was clearly the position of greatest need

Next year, JM will be a second year starter. He’s improved and will continue to improve next year. How have we done “nothing” to improve at QB?

I know some folks on here have written-off JM as not being talented enough or capable of improving to the extent needed. That’s all well and good, but the folks actually making those decisions do not share those opinions.

 

[Slowpoke Catracho]

I don't disagree. You lost a season playing Milroe. By that I mean that you go into next season with the same QB problem that you came into this season with. You could have developed a real QB, but instead chose to win games with Milroe.

I get it. You beat all of your rivals and won the SECCG- that is not "nothing". So, you have something to show for it. But next year - same as this year - no experienced QB to lead the team to a championship.

I hopeful that the o line will improve, but they only played one good game all season this year. One. Out of 14. Unacceptable

I don't how you figure we "Lost a season"? I think this group overachieved until the last 5 minutes of last evenings game. We will find out how improved the back-ups are next spring and summer. OSU "Lost a Season". The fact that the Buckeyes and Ducks were overrated all year in the polls actually kept FSU or UGA out of the CFP at the end of the year.