Alabama QBs in 2024

[Ledsteplin]

The below-linked film study provides some extensive analysis of why Alabama's protection broke down. The gist of it is this:

"Michigan’s blitz rate entering the Rose Bowl was just 24.4 percent, but the Wolverines blitzed 42.9 percent of the time against Alabama — their third-highest blitz rate of the season. Perhaps the most frustrating part from the Alabama perspective is that Michigan didn’t send an overwhelming amount of rushers — it was mainly one extra blitzer that created one-on-one matchups across the board. And Michigan won them consistently."​

https://theathletic.com/5179953/202...KcTPex8sd3OOpdKgXzFFVos1Qxr4aFvsEaBC5-YpLTK3A

And some actually started last year, as we saw Bryce many times scrambling to make plays, as protection broke down.

 

[landonew]

The line performance he had at Auburn I would have killed for this year.

Irrespective of Cam's stats or anyone else's, JM has to improve in the areas discussed to be an effective passer next season -- he needs to be an effective passer for his team (our team) to reach their goals.
JM needs to focus on what he can do to improve his own skillset to the benefit of the players around him -- not vice versa.

I wasn't the one that said they don't draft QB with the 16th pick to be a back-up. That means he has to be a starter. No, I don’t think Milroe will start in the NFL. I do admire your conviction though.

You're missing my point. It's not about JM being an NFL starter. Can we agree anyone with eyes can see that JM is nowhere close to being an NFL-caliber passer? What their reports say is that professional talent evaluators see JM as having the potential to improve in the areas we've been talking about. And, in fact, that they have already seen some improvement. Is that a fair takeaway?

 

[BamaInCummingGA]

Michigan knew exactly how to play defense against us. They didn't have to cover the middle because Milroe can't/won't throw there. That opened up UM to be able to blitz more and make JM make quick decisions, which he hasn't done all season long.
Add to that JM had no idea where the pressure was coming from because he can't read the defense.
So, Yeah, UM was certainly able to get pressure on the qb all night.

 

[BamaInCummingGA]

And some actually started last year, as we saw Bryce many times scrambling to make plays, as protection broke down.

The difference is that BY CONSISTENTLY made plays when something broke down.

Has JM made some? Sure.
Has he done it consistently? Nope.

 

[Rocky Mtn Bob]

This thread is making me dizzy.

 

[landonew]

The difference is that BY CONSISTENTLY made plays when something broke down.

Has JM made some? Sure.
Has he done it consistently? Nope.

Are you saying that BY made plays to avoid a sack when pressure broke down?

BY was sacked 39 times in 2021. He was consistently sacked when pressure broke down just like JM.

 

[Tidewater]

I don't know if that matters. The reason I find NFL scouting reports interesting is because it suggests JM can improve in the areas he needs to in order to be successful at Alabama. Is that a fair takeaway? What's your opinion?

I think a year under Pete Carrol at the Seahawks and he'll be ready.

 

[landonew]

I think a year under Pete Carrol at the Seahawks and he'll be ready.

He could always return for his RS SR year. We haven’t had a third year starting QB since AJ.

 

[81usaf92]

Since everyone wants stats… Against the P5 Milroe only had 1 passing TD inside the 10 yard line. 3 against non p5 teams (none of them against texas)

 

[landonew]

Since everyone wants stats… Against the P5 Milroe only had 1 passing TD inside the 10 yard line. 3 against non p5 teams (none of them against texas)

How many did Jayden Daniels have?

 

[Ledsteplin]

The difference is that BY CONSISTENTLY made plays when something broke down.

Has JM made some? Sure.
Has he done it consistently? Nope.

And very few quarterbacks could have done that. Bryce was special.

 

[81usaf92]

How many did Jayden Daniels have?

Just looking at two SEC games… at the very least 3 more than Milroe. I think the strawman is effectively burned just looking at Florida and aTm alone so I don’t see the point in going further than that.

 

[landonew]

Just looking at two SEC games… at the very least 3 more than Milroe.

How many times was Alabama stopped (FG or turnover on downs) inside 10yd?

This is a nonsense statistic for a variety of restaurants.

 

[81usaf92]

How many times was Alabama stopped (FG or turnover on downs) inside 10yd?

This is a nonsense statistic for a variety of restaurants.

Whatever. You clearly have a bunch of straw in stock. Good night.

 

[landonew]

Whatever. You clearly have a bunch of straw in stock. Good night.

They were #11 in the country in RedZone offense. I’m asking why the number of passing TDs inside the 10 matters.

 

[81usaf92]

They were #11 in the country in RedZone offense. I’m asking why the number of passing TDs inside the 10 matters.

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No you never asked that. You asked me how many passing TDs within the 10 yard line Daniels had.

 

[REBELZED]

They were #11 in the country in RedZone offense. I’m asking why the number of passing TDs inside the 10 matters.

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Not to speak for 81, but maybe because TD passes inside the 10 are the hardest TD passes to make and require reading/reacting to coverages, anticipation, accurate ball placement, quick decision making, etc etc.

In other words, TD passes inside the 10 require a quarterback to be a quarterback. Those are exactly the things a lot of us are saying Milroe could never do which is why we were so limited at the QB position...

 

[landonew]

No you never asked that.

The point you’re attempting to make is valid. You just aren’t citing the right evidence. Let me help you:

“Milroe didn’t rank in the top 50 in FBS in completions of 10 yards. Hence, the herky-jerky offense at times.”

“Against Michigan, Milroe was 1-for-3 on passes that traveled between 11-20 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, and on the season, he only completed 38 passes on 69 attempts in that range. That’s essentially an average of 3-for-5 in that spot, and with 38 of those passes being deemed off-target.”

O'Gara: How Jalen Milroe can learn from Rose Bowl shortcomings and become the baddest dude in college football

Alabama QB Jalen Milroe has room to grow in 2024, and it took an elite Michigan defense to hammer that home.

www.saturdaydownsouth.com

 

[81usaf92]

The point you’re attempting to make is valid. You just aren’t citing the right evidence. Let me help you:

“Milroe didn’t rank in the top 50 in FBS in completions of 10 yards. Hence, the herky-jerky offense at times.”

“Against Michigan, Milroe was 1-for-3 on passes that traveled between 11-20 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, and on the season, he only completed 38 passes on 69 attempts in that range. That’s essentially an average of 3-for-5 in that spot, and with 38 of those passes being deemed off-target.”

O'Gara: How Jalen Milroe can learn from Rose Bowl shortcomings and become the baddest dude in college football

Alabama QB Jalen Milroe has room to grow in 2024, and it took an elite Michigan defense to hammer that home.

www.saturdaydownsouth.com

you are assuming intent. I never gave a reason other stating that “since everyone loves stats”. I found it interesting.

 

[landonew]

Not to speak for 81, but maybe because TD passes inside the 10 are the hardest TD passes to make and require reading/reacting to coverages, anticipation, accurate ball placement, quick decision making, etc etc.

In other words, TD passes inside the 10 require a quarterback to be a quarterback. Those are exactly the things a lot of us are saying Milroe could never do which is why we were so limited at the QB position...

It’s just the wrong stat. Look above, I agree with the argument I just think the TDs inside the 10yd stat is not very compelling