Alabama suspends spring football practice due to coronavirus

[bat123]

Just watched this today very good intervirw

 

[bamaslammer]

I think panic breeds more panic, I also believe this is a gigantic overreaction brought on by bad advice from lawyers who do not know nor do they care of the ramifications of their choices. America has become a nation of cowards. I don't fault someone who is old or sick for staying home but cancelling EVERYTHING just stinks of cowerdice. God help us if we ever face a REAL crisis.

 

[cuda.1973]

I've had both as well...several times from as a child to adulthood...so I am careful as well. Problem with respiratory is that by the time you know you have it you probably have lost 50% of your lung capacity....when you get up every morning take a deep breath and hold it for ten full seconds. If you can do that, then you're not infected...if you cannot, get to a doctor asap.

50% lost? Hey, that is EVERYDAY for me! I'm used to it.

Now.................if I lose 50% of what I have, yeah, bad news.............

(Good thing I already have an industrial-strength oxygen concentrator.)

 

[B1GTide]

I think panic breeds more panic, I also believe this is a gigantic overreaction brought on by bad advice from lawyers who do not know nor do they care of the ramifications of their choices. America has become a nation of cowards. I don't fault someone who is old or sick for staying home but cancelling EVERYTHING just stinks of cowerdice. God help us if we ever face a REAL crisis.

If only the people making these decisions would listen to scientists. Oh, wait...

 

[92tide]

I think panic breeds more panic, I also believe this is a gigantic overreaction brought on by bad advice from lawyers who do not know nor do they care of the ramifications of their choices. America has become a nation of cowards. I don't fault someone who is old or sick for staying home but cancelling EVERYTHING just stinks of cowerdice. God help us if we ever face a REAL crisis.

we are facing a real crisis.

 

[cuda.1973]

I think panic breeds more panic, I also believe this is a gigantic overreaction brought on by bad advice from lawyers who do not know nor do they care of the ramifications of their choices. America has become a nation of cowards. I don't fault someone who is old or sick for staying home but cancelling EVERYTHING just stinks of cowerdice. God help us if we ever face a REAL crisis.

Yes, but..............people that I know in the area of "public health" talk about an Ro factor. (Think I have that right.) They believe this virus has a Ro of around 2.8. Without trying to explain what that means, and all that stuff, let's just say if we get the Ro down to 1, this thing will no longer be the problem it is now. The easiest way to do that is to limit "social contact", as they say.

So, from their standpoint, this makes sense. And the simplest ways to achieve that goal is to not have sporting events, large concerts, and having the kids stay home from school for 2 weeks or so. (Maybe a month, worst case guesstimate.)

One thing to watch out for..................

While they seem to be optimistic we are close to slowing this down, and with warm weather on its way, folks may then assume it is over. They all fear a return, say in November, when it cools down and the daylight hours are shorter.

 

[cubzwin]

While they seem to be optimistic we are close to slowing this down, and with warm weather on its way, folks may then assume it is over. They all fear a return, say in November, when it cools down and the daylight hours are shorter.
[/QUOTE]

There will be more positive case reports and more CoV fatalities in the US in the weeks to come. The wave of CoV is hitting the US a couple of months after it started in Wuhan. We think it spread from there because of international travel.

The good news is that China, if you believe them, reports a decline in new cases and new deaths. South Korea, which is transparent and reliable, is also reporting a decline. So yes, we are hopeful things will get better but it will get darker before the dawn.

 

[cuda.1973]

Yes, it has not peaked here yet. They just have reason to believe it won't reach the levels seen in places like Italy.

 

[Ole Man Dan]

Yes, but..............people that I know in the area of "public health" talk about an Ro factor. (Think I have that right.) They believe this virus has a Ro of around 2.8. Without trying to explain what that means, and all that stuff, let's just say if we get the Ro down to 1, this thing will no longer be the problem it is now. The easiest way to do that is to limit "social contact", as they say.

So, from their standpoint, this makes sense. And the simplest ways to achieve that goal is to not have sporting events, large concerts, and having the kids stay home from school for 2 weeks or so. (Maybe a month, worst case guesstimate.)

One thing to watch out for..................

While they seem to be optimistic we are close to slowing this down, and with warm weather on its way, folks may then assume it is over. They all fear a return, say in November, when it cools down and the daylight hours are shorter.

I can see a problem for Church attendance.
Big problem for CAR races. Guys can settle down in a recliner and take a 3-4 hour nap instead. Forget about assembly's in school, if the school is still open...
Pardon me for saying it. but IMO: This whole thing is and has been blown all out of proportion. Think about it...
Alabama has not had even one case of Covid-19 reported yet. I know we need preventive measures, but this thing appears to be over the top.

 

[Ole Man Dan]

I've had both as well...several times from as a child to adulthood...so I am careful as well. Problem with respiratory is that by the time you know you have it you probably have lost 50% of your lung capacity....when you get up every morning take a deep breath and hold it for ten full seconds. If you can do that, then you're not infected...if you cannot, get to a doctor asap.

Real good advice.

 

[Tug Tide]

Yes, but..............people that I know in the area of "public health" talk about an Ro factor. (Think I have that right.) They believe this virus has a Ro of around 2.8. Without trying to explain what that means, and all that stuff, let's just say if we get the Ro down to 1, this thing will no longer be the problem it is now. The easiest way to do that is to limit "social contact", as they say.

So, from their standpoint, this makes sense. And the simplest ways to achieve that goal is to not have sporting events, large concerts, and having the kids stay home from school for 2 weeks or so. (Maybe a month, worst case guesstimate.)

One thing to watch out for..................

While they seem to be optimistic we are close to slowing this down, and with warm weather on its way, folks may then assume it is over. They all fear a return, say in November, when it cools down and the daylight hours are shorter.

I’ve heard the term R0 factor before and your post got me to look it up.
Below is a good read on what it means.

What Is R0? Gauging Contagious Infections

R0 indicates how contagious a disease is. Learn how it works and the R0 values for various diseases.

www.healthline.com

By the way, if you don’t frequent the Non Sports boards (there’s 2) you will find a thread in each with great contributions from some members with genuine care and concern for the country.

 

[MOAN]

I can see a problem for Church attendance.
Big problem for CAR races. Guys can settle down in a recliner and take a 3-4 hour nap instead. Forget about assembly's in school, if the school is still open...
Pardon me for saying it. but IMO: This whole thing is and has been blown all out of proportion. Think about it...
Alabama has not had even one case of Covid-19 reported yet. I know we need preventive measures, but this thing appears to be over the top.

Got a call this afternoon that there was a confirmed case in Huntsville. It will be reported nationwide sooner than later but I agree it is being blown way out of proportion.

 

[JDCrimson]

Got a call this afternoon that there was a confirmed case in Huntsville. It will be reported nationwide sooner than later but I agree it is being blown way out of proportion.

I have it on about as good authority as you can get on this subject. The reason there are not confirmed cases in AL is because we didnt have test kits until this week. There is no inertia to test in Alabama as we dont have the hospital capacity to treat the cases. Our medical infrastructure is woefully inadequate in this state to deal with something like this. We seem to be relying on the "what you dont know wont kill you" approach...

 

[Aussie BamaFan]

its started to be taken seriously here in australia as they have canceled the F1 race and the AFL is talking no public at games players only. the Prime minister has said no crowds over 500 are permitted to any event full stop

 

[DogPatch]

Alabama has not had even one case of Covid-19 reported yet. I know we need preventive measures, but this thing appears to be over the top.

Because Alabama is so far behind other states in being able to fight this it is pathetic. The lack of reported cases is ONLY due to a lack of testing. A criminal lack of testing.

 

[B1GTide]

The good news is that China, if you believe them, reports a decline in new cases and new deaths. South Korea, which is transparent and reliable, is also reporting a decline. So yes, we are hopeful things will get better but it will get darker before the dawn.

I believe this for 2 reasons - they are disassembling the new hospital facilities that they built and they are sending doctors to other countries to help.

Now, I do not believe their reported cases stats, but I do believe that they are past their tsunami of cases.

 

[davefrat]

I think panic breeds more panic, I also believe this is a gigantic overreaction brought on by bad advice from lawyers who do not know nor do they care of the ramifications of their choices. America has become a nation of cowards. I don't fault someone who is old or sick for staying home but cancelling EVERYTHING just stinks of cowerdice. God help us if we ever face a REAL crisis.

Sorry, but this isn't about bravado and machismo...it's about taking reasonable precautions to slow the spread of a deadly disease.

Being a tough guy doesn't create immunity from a virus that has no vaccine.

 

[Titans&Tide]

Sorry, but this isn't about bravado and machismo...it's about taking reasonable precautions to slow the spread of a deadly disease.

Being a tough guy doesn't create immunity from a virus that has no vaccine.

Reasonable precautions is the key. Personally, I don't feel like the precautions being taken are especially reasonable. Canceling basically every public gathering just doesn't seem reasonable. Providing hand sanitizer and handwashing stations and encouraging people to stay home if they're unwell are what I'd consider reasonable precautions.

 

[DogPatch]

Reasonable precautions is the key. Personally, I don't feel like the precautions being taken are especially reasonable. Canceling basically every public gathering just doesn't seem reasonable. Providing hand sanitizer and handwashing stations and encouraging people to stay home if they're unwell are what I'd consider reasonable precautions.

These precautions are ABSOLUTELY reasonable given the rate of infection and the potential lack of hospital beds, WHEN this really starts to spread.

 

[TRU]

Yes, but..............people that I know in the area of "public health" talk about an Ro factor. (Think I have that right.) They believe this virus has a Ro of around 2.8. Without trying to explain what that means, and all that stuff, let's just say if we get the Ro down to 1, this thing will no longer be the problem it is now. The easiest way to do that is to limit "social contact", as they say.

So, from their standpoint, this makes sense. And the simplest ways to achieve that goal is to not have sporting events, large concerts, and having the kids stay home from school for 2 weeks or so. (Maybe a month, worst case guesstimate.)

One thing to watch out for..................

While they seem to be optimistic we are close to slowing this down, and with warm weather on its way, folks may then assume it is over. They all fear a return, say in November, when it cools down and the daylight hours are shorter.

Well, as a person who has spent his career in Global Healthcares, I can comment. The R is the reproductive value of an infectious

Yes, but..............people that I know in the area of "public health" talk about an Ro factor. (Think I have that right.) They believe this virus has a Ro of around 2.8. Without trying to explain what that means, and all that stuff, let's just say if we get the Ro down to 1, this thing will no longer be the problem it is now. The easiest way to do that is to limit "social contact", as they say.

So, from their standpoint, this makes sense. And the simplest ways to achieve that goal is to not have sporting events, large concerts, and having the kids stay home from school for 2 weeks or so. (Maybe a month, worst case guesstimate.)

One thing to watch out for..................

While they seem to be optimistic we are close to slowing this down, and with warm weather on its way, folks may then assume it is over. They all fear a return, say in November, when it cools down and the daylight hours are shorter.

I can comment as someone that has spent the last 30 years working in Global Health. The R value is the reproductive number of an infectious agent. It is simply the average number of new people that will get infected from one infected person. The Ro is the R value when an infection is introduced into a totally naive population where there are no actions take to contain it. The Ro for COVID 19 is probably near 2.8 as mentioned above. So the next question is how long does it take for the infectious agent to come infectious once it enters a new person? For COVID19 this is about 5 days. So if we put COVID infected person into a totally naive population, five days later, you have in average 2.8 new infections. Ten days later, you have 7.8 new people infected. 15 days out, you have 22 new infections. And after 95 days, give or take, you have 350 million infections, or 100% of the population of the United States infected. The first case in the USA was identified on January 19. This means that if we do nothing, everyone in this country will be exposed by April 25.

And how serious is this? Well as of right now, there are 5088 deaths and 69,779 recovered. There are a total of 137,385 confirmed cases but 62,518 of these are still in the midst of the disease - we do not know if they will live or die. So we need to calculate the death rate based on those who have reached the endpoint - the 5088 dead plus the 69,997 recovered. This works out to a fatality rate of 6.8%. With a population of 350 million, this translates to 24 million dead.

This is not fake. It is not a joke. The only way we can prevent this nightmare is to self isolate. We need to get R below 1 and keep our foot on its throat until it is dead.

We are in for a very trying few months. The data are the data and the calculations are simple. Fox News may disagree, but COVID19 does not watch Fox or any other news source. It will not be deterred by anything anyone says. This monster is among us and it is up to us to defeat it. Not Trump, not the senate, not Nancy Pelosi. We the people of the United States.