Was it me or did it take a while for them to admit that Bama was simply kicking Florida's butt? They kept making comments about how Florida was making mistakes rather than giving Bama credit for execution. Probably just me.
Are you expecting an easy win vs. Texas?
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Was it me or did it take a while for them to admit that Bama was simply kicking Florida's butt? They kept making comments about how Florida was making mistakes rather than giving Bama credit for execution. Probably just me.
We win. Texas has a good D. Nick Saban has more class than Texas and doesn't feel the need to run up the score or inflate stats for individuals. I guess because we play real teams and don't need to skew our rankings by throwing up fourty/fifty on:
Louisiana-Monroe W 59-20
at Wyoming W 41-10
UTEP W 64-7
at Baylor W 47-14
Kansas W 51-20
UCF W 35-3
at Missouri W 41-7
Colorado W 38-14
Texas Tech W 34-24
LOL = at Texas A&M W 49-39 <---That D was on FIYAH that night
On a side note: Kind of hard to inflate numbers against decent D's
at (21) Nebraska W 13-12
Talk about bravado!
Mack Brown is a classless ..... We had some lop sided scores but never kept our starters in or heisman hopeful to inflate stats and throw the ball all over the field up 30 in the forth. Its OK to beat a team by forty if your starters are on the sidelines. You cant tell a backup to lay down and let the other team score, nor can you tell your reserves on O to quit trying. I have lost a lot of respect for teams that follow this mold. Funny thing is Colt still did't win the Heisman. A guy who was splitting time with another excellent player did however. Imagine if MI would have gotten all those touches as the only RB in the rotation. His numbers would have been rediculous and the media would have had nothing to say negatively about him.
We played a 1, 7, 9, 20 and a 22
Still Ranked: VT (12), LSU (13), FL (5)
They played: 13, 20, 21
Still Ranked 1: OK St(21) and look at their schedule. Sweet lord talk about not deserving to be ranked. One loss to a still ranked team. Guess who, thats right Texas. What a joke.
Texas = Tebow. Just because the media vomits how good they are all over the masses doesn't make them 2 in the nation. Any Texas fan should admit they play a joke schedule and abused mediocrity all season.
I just honestly cant see all the hype for this team. Look at who they played with that imaginary number 1 ranked D. Look at who they inflated stats on with that stat shattering O. C'mon, do you guys really think they deserve to even be in this game. The media placed them there for marketing purposes. They know they will bring in big money with a BAMA/HORN game. I have watched the games and I just don't see it.
It will be a close game by score, but never a close game on the field of play. We win by 17. Anything can happen but I am usually not wrong. I will have a huge bowl of salty crow to eat if we do not win, but Im not worried in the least.
TCU is the best team in the state of Texas.
Ranked opponent wins still in the top 25:
TCU: BYU and the Utes (14, 24)> Texas: Ok. St (18)This should make even Texas fans sick.
Talk about unfair. This is the number one argument for a playoff system in my opinion.
I hope this is not considered smack. These are facts/stats. The Mack Brown thing is my personal opinion and he did indeed do the things stated. Sorry, but he is in the same category as Coach Urban Myer in my opinion. I have been on the underside of beatings in High School Football and I would never do it to another team. I have taken a knee inside the opponents 20 on many occasions. Much like Bama did this year in a REALLY big game against an opponent that would not have done the same had roles been reversed IMHO. That is class and the way the game should be coached.
You don't know the first thing about Mack Brown. You didn't watch our blow-out games this year. I know this because Colt and our starters were taken out of a bunch of games when the outcome was no longer in doubt. Colt does win the Heisman if he plays the fourth quarter and throws the ball. His stats could have been much better than they were.
Mack Brown is a class act from beginning to finish. If you don't know that, I don't know how closely you really follow college football.
If you think a team that has won 26 of 27 games over two years does not deserve a shot at the title, I question your objectivity.
Texas played everyone on the schedule. The team can't control who those teams are. We were scheduled to play @ Arkansas this year, but that game was cancelled by the Pigs when they agreed to play A&M on a yearly basis.
Alabama is a really good football team. Does Bama deserve to be considered the favorite based on strength of schedule and the convincing win over a good Flordia team? Absolutely. I don't think any objective Texas fan will dispute this, but for you to disrespect Texas, Mack Brown and all the program has accomplished, speaks volumes about you.
I think that was Robert Marve. I'm not sure what happened with Marve, but I thought that what they said was technically correct. We became interested in McElroy after the Tebow fiasco.
I'll agree with much of what you posted, I've always respected Brown and Texas can't really control who they play (at least not in their conference). I just want to point out that most of the Texas fans that have posted on here have not followed what I quoted above. We've been regaled with stories of how McCoy is really Superman, and since we don't have Suh we can't sack McCoy and if we can't sack McCoy we can't win.
Mack Brown has never run the score up on anyone. In any of our blow outs, the starters were out of the game by the start of the 4th (sometimes staying in to finish a drive in the 4th). Mack generally believes in playing a full 3 quarters, but backups play a ton of time early in any blowout game. Make stuff up if you want, but you'll never find any evidence of Mack running up the score. In most blow outs we have the QB handing off to our third or tenth string running back.
La-Monroe: Colt's last play ended the third quarter.
Wyoming: Colt's last play came with 9 minutes left in the 4th. He only played that long because of how bad we played in the first half.
UTEP: Colt's last drive ended with 9 minutes left in the 3rd.
Mizzou: Colt's last drive ended with 14:50 left in the 4th.
Ok-St: Colt's last drive ended with 13 minutes left in the 4th.
UCF: Colt's last drive ended with 9 minutes left in the 4th.
Baylor: Colt's last drive ended with 4 minutes left in the 3rd.
Kansas: Colt's last drive ended with 7 minutes left in the 4th.
Y'all certainly don't try to run up the score either, but you can't claim Mack has done so. Yes, we tend to pass more even when up big. This is a function of our offense and our lack of a true running game. The short passing game functions as our run. It is how we kill clock at the end of a game.
This is an incredible post. You don't have any clue what you're talking about. Mack Brown is so averse to running up the score that it causes much debate among Texas fans and he has been criticized for it. He didn't even attempt style points last year when Texas engaged in a beauty contest with Oklahoma toward the end of the year. Some Texas fans believe it cost Texas a shot at the national title. Urban Meyer is throwing the ball with less than thirty seconds left. Mack Brown will never do that. Your post is so off the mark about Mack Brown that it renders the rest of the post irrelevant.We win. Texas has a good D. Nick Saban has more class than Texas and doesn't feel the need to run up the score or inflate stats for individuals. I guess because we play real teams and don't need to skew our rankings by throwing up fourty/fifty on:
Louisiana-Monroe W 59-20
at Wyoming W 41-10
UTEP W 64-7
at Baylor W 47-14
Kansas W 51-20
UCF W 35-3
at Missouri W 41-7
Colorado W 38-14
Texas Tech W 34-24
LOL = at Texas A&M W 49-39 <---That D was on FIYAH that night
On a side note: Kind of hard to inflate numbers against decent D's
at (21) Nebraska W 13-12
Talk about bravado!
Mack Brown is a classless ..... We had some lop sided scores but never kept our starters in or heisman hopeful to inflate stats and throw the ball all over the field up 30 in the forth. Its OK to beat a team by forty if your starters are on the sidelines. You cant tell a backup to lay down and let the other team score, nor can you tell your reserves on O to quit trying. I have lost a lot of respect for teams that follow this mold. Funny thing is Colt still did't win the Heisman. A guy who was splitting time with another excellent player did however. Imagine if MI would have gotten all those touches as the only RB in the rotation. His numbers would have been rediculous and the media would have had nothing to say negatively about him.
We played a 1, 7, 9, 20 and a 22
Still Ranked: VT (12), LSU (13), FL (5)
They played: 13, 20, 21
Still Ranked 1: OK St(21) and look at their schedule. Sweet lord talk about not deserving to be ranked. One loss to a still ranked team. Guess who, thats right Texas. What a joke.
Texas = Tebow. Just because the media vomits how good they are all over the masses doesn't make them 2 in the nation. Any Texas fan should admit they play a joke schedule and abused mediocrity all season.
I just honestly cant see all the hype for this team. Look at who they played with that imaginary number 1 ranked D. Look at who they inflated stats on with that stat shattering O. C'mon, do you guys really think they deserve to even be in this game. The media placed them there for marketing purposes. They know they will bring in big money with a BAMA/HORN game. I have watched the games and I just don't see it.
It will be a close game by score, but never a close game on the field of play. We win by 17. Anything can happen but I am usually not wrong. I will have a huge bowl of salty crow to eat if we do not win, but Im not worried in the least.
TCU is the best team in the state of Texas.
Ranked opponent wins still in the top 25:
TCU: BYU and the Utes (14, 24)> Texas: Ok. St (18)
Talk about unfair. This is the number one argument for a playoff system in my opinion.
I hope this is not considered smack. These are facts/stats. The Mack Brown thing is my personal opinion and he did indeed do the things stated. Sorry, but he is in the same category as Coach Urban Myer in my opinion. I have been on the underside of beatings in High School Football and I would never do it to another team. I have taken a knee inside the opponents 20 on many occasions. Much like Bama did this year in a REALLY big game against an opponent that would not have done the same had roles been reversed IMHO. That is class and the way the game should be coached.
Every fan base has idiots and trouble-makers. I apologize on behalf of all Texas fans who have large respect for the Alabama program and the team they have this year.
Regarding McCoy, we've all seen him shine and we've all seen him look very mortal. He has had a very long career. He's seen and done it all. Bama certainly has the capability of making him look very mortal. He also has demonstrated the ability to shine against excellent defenses. OU and Nebraska bottled him up for sure, though if that would-be TD bomb hadn't been dropped in the Big 12 title game, I'm not so sure that game remains close. The thing about Colt that inspires so much confidence is the fact that he shines when things get the hardest. If you go back and watch the money drives against Nebraska in the fourth quarter, Colt was excellent, despite his struggles all game. The next to last drive, which could have ended to game had Texas scored, started on the Texas 1 and ended with an interception on a truly great play by the defender on a ball Colt put on the money around the Nebraska 30. On the final drive, the one play he had to make, he made to Shipley. He can't control that the horse collar put them straight into field goal range. Every Texas fan, I think, had every reason to believe, based on his past performances under extreme pressure, that Colt was going to get it done on that last drive, horse collar/kick out of bounds or not. We've seen it over and over again.
Alabama has the ability to make this game not close, though I honestly can't remember the last time that happened to Texas. If the game is close, which I expect, we like having Colt under center. To go beyond that is hyperbole.
Please stop with the "our coach has more class than your coach" stuff, please. It sounds like something my 6 yr old would say.
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No problem. I pointed out either in this post or another similar post, that if I didn't know several good Texas fans I'd have a dim view of the fanbase. Fortunately, I know several good fans. We just seem to have had some ridiculous ones on here.
I think McCoy is a very good QB and having one like that under center definitely inspires a certain amount of confidence. I've said the same thing about Tebow and I think they are similar in that regard. However, we've all seen that one player cannot do it on his own in football.
We really have to hang our hat on the fact that our defense is as good as or better than Oklahoma and Nebraska, that our offense while not anything like yours is at least as good as or better than Oklahoma and Nebraska (not that hard in Nebraska's case) and that your lack of a running game will be your Achille's Heel. Should you develop a potent rushing attack or one or both of the other statements prove false, we could be in big trouble. I have confidence in the statements, so I hope our Rush Defense is for real and you guys can't generate much of a rushing attack. I like our chances against a one-dimensional Texas offense. I'm expecting a tough, hard fought game.
That's fair enough. I guess Texas fans can say we think we're better on both sides of the ball than Tennessee and Auburn. It's sort of a circular argument. The big feather in Bama's cap, as I see it, is they have proven the ability to beat a really good football team this year, while Texas hasn't, but really hasn't had the chance either - until Jan 7. Both teams have shown the capacity to struggle against mediocre teams.
Regarding the running game, I suspect Colt will shoulder much of this burden. If he comes out looking to run when it's there and he has decent success throwing the ball, some running lanes might open up for the backs. I really have no reason to believe we'll mount much of a running game against Alabama's defense, however, unless it's Colt making plays with his feet. We run to keep defenses honest and do have some backs that can make plays, but running just isn't this team's gig. This Texas team is about defense, believe it or not. If we beat Alabama, it will be because the defense was dominant. The Aggie game was a glaring exception to the stellar play of the D this year, though that A&M QB was unconscious and that game was just generally whacky on a short week. Despite that game, Texas fans have every bit as much confidence in our D's ability to bottle up Bama's O as Bama fans have in bottling up our O. Can't wait for the game.
I have to agree. Texas more than deserves to be in the NC game, and IMO, deserved to be there over OU last year.
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I agree. I think our biggest challenge (as has been all year) is to contain the QB scramble. A big reason we held Tebow to mortal #'s rushing is because we got ahead early and forced him to stay in the pocket longer. Garcia hurt us this year scrambling.
Also, it will be interesting to see if our DB's can contain your WR's. THis scares me. Our DB's are good, but have been beat on occasions and given up big plays( i.e. AU). We really haven't played many Pass-first offenses this year. And our pass D is weaker than our run D IMO. I don't think TX has to run much. They will move the ball in the air and AL will move the ball on the ground. I actually think it could be a high scoring game. It all depends on our DB's and UT's DL.
We win. Texas has a good D. Nick Saban has more class than Texas and doesn't feel the need to run up the score or inflate stats for individuals. I guess because we play real teams and don't need to skew our rankings by throwing up fourty/fifty on:
Louisiana-Monroe W 59-20
at Wyoming W 41-10
UTEP W 64-7
at Baylor W 47-14
Kansas W 51-20
UCF W 35-3
at Missouri W 41-7
Colorado W 38-14
Texas Tech W 34-24
LOL = at Texas A&M W 49-39 <---That D was on FIYAH that night
On a side note: Kind of hard to inflate numbers against decent D's
at (21) Nebraska W 13-12
Talk about bravado!
Mack Brown is a classless ..... We had some lop sided scores but never kept our starters in or heisman hopeful to inflate stats and throw the ball all over the field up 30 in the forth. Its OK to beat a team by forty if your starters are on the sidelines. You cant tell a backup to lay down and let the other team score, nor can you tell your reserves on O to quit trying. I have lost a lot of respect for teams that follow this mold. Funny thing is Colt still did't win the Heisman. A guy who was splitting time with another excellent player did however. Imagine if MI would have gotten all those touches as the only RB in the rotation. His numbers would have been rediculous and the media would have had nothing to say negatively about him.
We played a 1, 7, 9, 20 and a 22
Still Ranked: VT (12), LSU (13), FL (5)
They played: 13, 20, 21
Still Ranked 1: OK St(21) and look at their schedule. Sweet lord talk about not deserving to be ranked. One loss to a still ranked team. Guess who, thats right Texas. What a joke.
Texas = Tebow. Just because the media vomits how good they are all over the masses doesn't make them 2 in the nation. Any Texas fan should admit they play a joke schedule and abused mediocrity all season.
I just honestly cant see all the hype for this team. Look at who they played with that imaginary number 1 ranked D. Look at who they inflated stats on with that stat shattering O. C'mon, do you guys really think they deserve to even be in this game. The media placed them there for marketing purposes. They know they will bring in big money with a BAMA/HORN game. I have watched the games and I just don't see it.
It will be a close game by score, but never a close game on the field of play. We win by 17. Anything can happen but I am usually not wrong. I will have a huge bowl of salty crow to eat if we do not win, but Im not worried in the least.
TCU is the best team in the state of Texas.
Ranked opponent wins still in the top 25:
TCU: BYU and the Utes (14, 24)> Texas: Ok. St (18)
Talk about unfair. This is the number one argument for a playoff system in my opinion.
I hope this is not considered smack. These are facts/stats. The Mack Brown thing is my personal opinion and he did indeed do the things stated. Sorry, but he is in the same category as Coach Urban Myer in my opinion. I have been on the underside of beatings in High School Football and I would never do it to another team. I have taken a knee inside the opponents 20 on many occasions. Much like Bama did this year in a REALLY big game against an opponent that would not have done the same had roles been reversed IMHO. That is class and the way the game should be coached.
Just look at the box scores of the Baylor & Okie State & Mizzou games. Look at the score at the half and then look at the final score.
Us Texas fans WISH Colt would play more. Truth is he's only played all 4 qtrs of 3 games this year. The running joke was that Muschamp allowed A&M to score so much so that Colt could finally have a full game worth of stats.
Proof for the pudding here. Texas vs. Mizzou. Texas wins 41-7.
At half time- 35-7 Texas. Boy... we really ran up the score there. Yes Colt played none of the 4th quarter
Texas versus Okie State. 41-7 after 3 qtrs. Colt had 4 plays in the 4th qtr.
Texas versus Baylor. 40-0 at halftime. Final score 47-14. We played vanilla the entire second half. Colt Mccoy's day ended toward the end of the 3rd qtr.
The only real game where running up the score could be alleged would be the UTEP game. We were up 47-7 at the half. Colt played just one series in the 3rd quarter. We ran basic stuff in the second half but still won 64-7.
That is NOT running up the score.
More on the rest of this thread later... but this was just too egregiously erroneous to let pass.
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Just got through reading these 16 pages. (slow day at the office)
Let me give you some of my thoughts..
Many have made the correct observation about the bye week issue. There is more to it than that, though.
OU game. Colt Mccoy had a sinus infection/flu for a 3 game stretch. At the end of that stretch every game they'd give Colt Pedialyte at the half and he'd be a new man in the second half. Why we didn't give him Pedialyte at the start of those games is still a mystery. The OU game I'd liken to your Tennessee game. We just couldn't get going offensively with Colt being off all game. If you can use that excuse with Ingram in the Auburn game... seems reasonable that TX fans can use it here.
A&M game. Yes it was on a short week. Yes we probably underestimated them in a similar fashion to how ya'll underestimated Auburn. The next week was the CCG. To some degree, of course you tend to overlook a 6-6 type team. But here are two reasons why I think we struggled with A&M.
#1. The Baylor factor. Like 5 teams this year played Baylor the week before they played Texas. Talk about a de-facto bye week.
#2. The bonfire tragedy. A&M's campus and coaches turned this game into a referendum on the 12 that were 'fallen'. Yes. Prayers go to the families of the lost loved ones. But A&M gave these 12 the same respect you'd give to a fallen soldier. This game wasn't just a rivalry game... it was a 'win one for the gipper' game for them. Thank goodness A&M didn't win. They'd conjure up the memories of those precious lives to win football games every year. Let those who died rest in peace... but that's another topic for another day. I knew we would be in the for the fight of our lives when they delayed the 10th 'anniversary' to coincide with the Texas game even though the date was closer to the Baylor game.
Nebraska is a head scratcher for me. We should've been stoked for this game. I just think Nebraska made the plays. If you listen to their coaches, they gameplanned for us well ahead of the game. Even if they lost to Colorado, they knew they had the north clinched. Their only way to make a splash was to beat us... they flew up OU's DC Venables to help them gameplan. Consider this. They gave up more points to lowly Colorado than they did to OU/Mizzou/Vtech/Kansas. CU was close to a bye game for them it seemed.
I hate excuses... but let's at least apply them equally. Some of the same factors that helped explain your close wins can be used to explain TX close wins. The only real difference as I see it is that our close wins were towards the end of the season while yours were towards the middle. Could it be as simple as they coincided with our Bye weeks? Either way... i think that momentum you had is squelched by the long 32 days between games.
Good luck guys!
Let me give you some of my thoughts..
Many have made the correct observation about the bye week issue. There is more to it than that, though.
OU game. Colt Mccoy had a sinus infection/flu for a 3 game stretch. At the end of that stretch every game they'd give Colt Pedialyte at the half and he'd be a new man in the second half. Why we didn't give him Pedialyte at the start of those games is still a mystery. The OU game I'd liken to your Tennessee game. We just couldn't get going offensively with Colt being off all game. If you can use that excuse with Ingram in the Auburn game... seems reasonable that TX fans can use it here.
A&M game. Yes it was on a short week. Yes we probably underestimated them in a similar fashion to how ya'll underestimated Auburn. The next week was the CCG. To some degree, of course you tend to overlook a 6-6 type team. But here are two reasons why I think we struggled with A&M.
#1. The Baylor factor. Like 5 teams this year played Baylor the week before they played Texas. Talk about a de-facto bye week.
#2. The bonfire tragedy. A&M's campus and coaches turned this game into a referendum on the 12 that were 'fallen'. Yes. Prayers go to the families of the lost loved ones. But A&M gave these 12 the same respect you'd give to a fallen soldier. This game wasn't just a rivalry game... it was a 'win one for the gipper' game for them. Thank goodness A&M didn't win. They'd conjure up the memories of those precious lives to win football games every year. Let those who died rest in peace... but that's another topic for another day. I knew we would be in the for the fight of our lives when they delayed the 10th 'anniversary' to coincide with the Texas game even though the date was closer to the Baylor game.
Nebraska is a head scratcher for me. We should've been stoked for this game. I just think Nebraska made the plays. If you listen to their coaches, they gameplanned for us well ahead of the game. Even if they lost to Colorado, they knew they had the north clinched. Their only way to make a splash was to beat us... they flew up OU's DC Venables to help them gameplan. Consider this. They gave up more points to lowly Colorado than they did to OU/Mizzou/Vtech/Kansas. CU was close to a bye game for them it seemed.
I hate excuses... but let's at least apply them equally. Some of the same factors that helped explain your close wins can be used to explain TX close wins. The only real difference as I see it is that our close wins were towards the end of the season while yours were towards the middle. Could it be as simple as they coincided with our Bye weeks? Either way... i think that momentum you had is squelched by the long 32 days between games.
Good luck guys!
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One other pet peeve of mine. The refs didn't GIVE us the Nebraska game.
Come on. They made the right call.
Go here. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w0GKLUNyoA]YouTube - Texas Longhorns Last Second Against Nebraska in Big 12 Title Game[/ame]
Pause it as soon as the video hits the :48 second mark. You'll see the referee calling the play dead at the FAR left of the screen and there is still one second left. The clock operator is SUPPOSED to stop it as soon as he sees the refs hands go up. The operator just failed to do his job. There is/was no conspiracy.
Say we "escaped" if you want. But let's not say it was handed over by the refs.
Come on. They made the right call.
Go here. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w0GKLUNyoA]YouTube - Texas Longhorns Last Second Against Nebraska in Big 12 Title Game[/ame]
Pause it as soon as the video hits the :48 second mark. You'll see the referee calling the play dead at the FAR left of the screen and there is still one second left. The clock operator is SUPPOSED to stop it as soon as he sees the refs hands go up. The operator just failed to do his job. There is/was no conspiracy.
Say we "escaped" if you want. But let's not say it was handed over by the refs.
I dunno Earle, I don't think it was a gadget play ala what Auburn was throwing at us in the first quarter but it was something intended to deceive Florida. First, the formation with Julio and Maze split, Dial flexed weak side, Peek lined up tight strong side, and Ingram in a wingback alignment was something that we've never ran before. Second, we had Julio coming on a jet sweep from the weak to strong side and faked the hand off with Maze flying up the sideline. They keyed on the sweep from Jones and the fly from Maze with GMac taking a few steps right to sell that side of the play then he took one step back and found Peek wide open after he sold a block and cheated left.
It was our variation on the "oh sh*t" play concept that gets everyone going in one direction with one back or tight end sneaking back the opposite side for an easy catch. It's not a gimmick, but it's definitely a misdirection play that you can only "get away with it" once.
It was our variation on the "oh sh*t" play concept that gets everyone going in one direction with one back or tight end sneaking back the opposite side for an easy catch. It's not a gimmick, but it's definitely a misdirection play that you can only "get away with it" once.
actually, I'm pretty sure you can't review the time on the clock unless there is another component of the play in question, say, inbounds or out of bounds on a reception or a fumble call.
Rule 12, Section 3, Article 6. "The replay official may correct egregious errors, including those involving the game clock, whether or not a play is reviewable."
If the officials can... and THEY OFTEN DO, put 5 seconds back on the clock after a review changing the clock from 4:20 left in the 3rd quarter to 4:15. Then surely they can do it when the entire game is on the line.
If the officials can... and THEY OFTEN DO, put 5 seconds back on the clock after a review changing the clock from 4:20 left in the 3rd quarter to 4:15. Then surely they can do it when the entire game is on the line.
well, there you go. I was mistaken. I was under the opinion that the clock could only be adjusted when a play is reviewed therefore Texas got a lucky ignorance of the rules because there was simply nothing to review on that play.
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