As expected, Clowney picks USCe

[rangerman]

yea since we have only like 5 first rounders and usc got what 1 maybe gurley gets that.

 

[GreatMarch]

Or because SC sends players to the NFL (not saying Bama doesn't), can play for one of the best Dline coaches in the country in Lawing, and can help build this team into championship caliber and be the first to do something big at this school. Make history. No, nothing wrong with that at all.

Not to mention, Lou Holtz picks you to win each week! Wait a minute, is this Lou Holtz on our board? :biggrin2:

 

[Mamacalled]

1). USCe never has been nor ever will be championship material with or without JC.
2). I take it you are a USCe fan on our BAMA board?
3). IMO we get JC anyway, so, if 1). affends you, I apologize and you can disregard it!

TT, we accept visitors from other schools on this board. What he has stated has merit and in no way has he been disrespectful of Alabama. You are new to this board so you may not realize that those of us on this board treat diferring opinions with respect.

USC3521, welcome and I do hope that you continue to post on this board.

 

[MOAN]

More of the "its all about me" generation. Yet another reason I do not worry about 18 year old kids making a decision on where they are going to play. If they come to Bama and play, fine I root for them. If they go to The University of Timbucktoo, then I could care less what they do. I certainly am way, way too old to get all in a tizzy on where some 18 year old is going to play. 18 year olds don't drive my life. (Just one old man's opinion.)

I am with you JEB. I enjoy recruiting for the purpose of seeing who I am going to be cheering for in the near future. I would certainly love to cheer for JC next year and I think he would see the playing field early but not necessarily a starter to begin with. But make no mistake he will play a lot at Bama his freshman year and probably be off to the pro's in three.

But if he isn't playing at Bama I could care less where he goes. We have beast on the team already and more coming in. I watched him in the allstar game and he looked talented but so did several others including Dickson, Depriest, Sunseri among many others. I really think JC's chances for a championship is better at Bama than anywhere in the SEC much less at South Carolina but that goes for every prospect.

 

[Tide Warrior]

Or because SC sends players to the NFL (not saying Bama doesn't), can play for one of the best Dline coaches in the country in Lawing, and can help build this team into championship caliber and be the first to do something big at this school. Make history. No, nothing wrong with that at all.

Welcome aboard,

The question for the future of USC is not JC it is can CSS recruit outside of the state. Maybe next year if they can get to the SECCG again it will show they can sustain long term. Even with the class USC will have this year including if they get JC they are still not getting the top recruits from surrounding states and not many are even looking. JC will be good but he will start showing how good he is his sophmore year. The same year that will see Garcia, Gilmore, Jeffreys and many others gone before the season starts. Alot fo teams have picked up a few great players but you need more then a few and have to get kids out of state. No offense but even Clemson with the turmoil in their program for whatever eason is landing top out of state players. Until USC does that they maybe have one more good year, because after that UF, UGA, and UT will be player agian in the SEC East.

I remember Hardy(I think was his name) at Ole Miss. Great defensive player but had nothing around him.

 

[USC3521]

Welcome aboard,

The question for the future of USC is not JC it is can CSS recruit outside of the state. Maybe next year if they can get to the SECCG again it will show they can sustain long term. Even with the class USC will have this year including if they get JC they are still not getting the top recruits from surrounding states and not many are even looking. JC will be good but he will start showing how good he is his sophmore year. The same year that will see Garcia, Gilmore, Jeffreys and many others gone before the season starts. Alot fo teams have picked up a few great players but you need more then a few and have to get kids out of state. No offense but even Clemson with the turmoil in their program for whatever eason is landing top out of state players. Until USC does that they maybe have one more good year, because after that UF, UGA, and UT will be player agian in the SEC East.

I remember Hardy(I think was his name) at Ole Miss. Great defensive player but had nothing around him.

Thanks for the civil feedback Tide Warrior. We like you over at cockytalk. Don't be so fooled by the star rankings though. Yes Clemson is raking in some highly rated talent as they have done for the past few years. Unfortunately for them (and it is really obvious to people who are not Clemson fans), they lack in the coaching aspect and have ever since Bowden has been there. Their offensive line lacks quality young players and you can't do anything without an offensive line (us gamecock fans know). It doesn't matter how high of a class you have if you can't develop your talent.

Back to the topic, the cupboard won't be bare after next year. Yes, Jeffery will probably go pro but believe me we have more great players next in line. Our class may lack in stars, but our coaches aren't settling on anything. They've gone out and gotten the players they wanted and them some. SOS admitted he's going after players with certain qualities now and not just anyone with 4 or 5 stars by their name. It helps when you have a great D-coordinator like Ellis Johnson handpicking his recruits for his system. No worries there.

All this being said, Clowney has the opportunity to make a Lattimore-like impact for the defense. A lot of people though Latti wouldn't be able to do anything on our team and we saw what happened there. Clowney will succeed where ever he goes and I hope everything I've heard is true and he becomes a gamecock.

 

[BamaCorvin]

TT, we accept visitors from other schools on this board. What he has stated has merit and in no way has he been disrespectful of Alabama. You are new to this board so you may not realize that those of us on this board treat diferring opinions with respect.

USC3521, welcome and I do hope that you continue to post on this board.

Well said! Welcome USC3521

 

[Tide Warrior]

Thanks for the civil feedback Tide Warrior. We like you over at cockytalk. Don't be so fooled by the star rankings though. Yes Clemson is raking in some highly rated talent as they have done for the past few years. Unfortunately for them (and it is really obvious to people who are not Clemson fans), they lack in the coaching aspect and have ever since Bowden has been there. Their offensive line lacks quality young players and you can't do anything without an offensive line (us gamecock fans know). It doesn't matter how high of a class you have if you can't develop your talent.

Back to the topic, the cupboard won't be bare after next year. Yes, Jeffery will probably go pro but believe me we have more great players next in line. Our class may lack in stars, but our coaches aren't settling on anything. They've gone out and gotten the players they wanted and them some. SOS admitted he's going after players with certain qualities now and not just anyone with 4 or 5 stars by their name. It helps when you have a great D-coordinator like Ellis Johnson handpicking his recruits for his system. No worries there.

All this being said, Clowney has the opportunity to make a Lattimore-like impact for the defense. A lot of people though Latti wouldn't be able to do anything on our team and we saw what happened there. Clowney will succeed where ever he goes and I hope everything I've heard is true and he becomes a gamecock.

I agree about Clemson it is sort of like the Twilight Zone over there, but that staff's days are limited. I think next year will determine USC though. If they can repeat I think the players out of state will start looking. This open some eyes but next will tell the tale. Will USC be the USC of the past or the new USC. Time will tell.

UA is where it is because of national recruiting, if we had to rely on just instate recruits we would be top 20 but probably not in BCS contention each year.

 

[USC3521]

I agree about Clemson it is sort of like the Twilight Zone over there, but that staff's days are limited. I think next year will determine USC though. If they can repeat I think the players out of state will start looking. This open some eyes but next will tell the tale. Will USC be the USC of the past or the new USC. Time will tell.

UA is where it is because of national recruiting, if we had to rely on just instate recruits we would be top 20 but probably not in BCS contention each year.

Good points but I don't think it is out of state recruiting that is our biggest concern. It's putting up a fence around South Carolina and getting big time guys like Clowney. We've improved considerably in that area getting, like you mentioned, Lattimore, Gilmore, Jeffery, Holloman who want to play for their home state school and its flagship university. We've been able to get a good amount of guys from Georgia, Florida, and recently New Jersey and we could always improve in that area. But I'd have to say our no.1 priority in recruiting is locking down the home state because per capita it produces a lot of NFL talent.

 

[Saban14]

Welcome USC3521!

Sometimes it is great to be delusional about your team, it seemed to really help the barn, since they have been saying they will win the title every year for the past 53.

 

[USC3521]

Welcome USC3521!

Sometimes it is great to be delusional about your team, it seemed to really help the barn, since they have been saying they will win the title every year for the past 53.

Tell that to Clemson fans.

 

[bamaga]

So South Carolina has no shot at a championship? Which team was in the SEC championship this year? Granted the East was down, but we competed for a championship last year and we will again next year. He can come in and start right away opposite of projected first round pick Devin Taylor and succeed very well there.

actually, a 5 td loss isn't really competing , but I understand what you are saying. however, if you asked objective third parties, an overwhelming majority would say Bama would have a better shot at an SEC title, and even more would say Bama would have a better shot at a BCSNCG. Another point, last season, even after Bama lost 2 games , I think it was Cowherd , had one of his Vegas line guys on, Bama was the one team that would be favored over anyone in the country on a nuetral field. They were favored over #1 Auburn.
Another Bama fact, this will be Bama's third year in a row with a top 3 class, 2 of those have been #1.maybe a third this year.
One other fact, The last 2 times Spurrier has been in the SEC championship game, it hasn't been pretty. his last year with the gators was a 34-6 romp by Bama, and we know about last year. His best USCe team still had 5 losses.
No one here is saying it couldn't happen, and I am not trying to be arrogant, its ' that Carolina has to take the next step, and they have to prove they can. Given Carolina's history, most would bet against it. I know that smacks of condescension, but really that isn't where I am coming from. Just ask Arkansas , with a much better football pedigree, how hard that next step is. Bama is a safer bet to win a SEC and BCSNC.

don't think I am picking on ya, stick around and discuss this.

 

[bamaga]

I feel so stupid, a double post. Didn't think that could happen

 

[USCBAMA]

The SECW has overtaken the SECE as the dominant Division, and the gap is fairly wide right now. I think most rational fans get that. But that is actually to USC's advantage. UGA is a mess to the point that they have had trouble luring top assistants the past few years. I think UF made a good hire, but the product they put on the field this year was a disaster (remember, USC beat them by 22... at the swamp). UT showed some life at the end of the season against the weaker part of their schedule, but I'm just not sold on Dooley, he's a Mike Shula clone if you ask me. KY's offense has been depleted (Locke, Hartline, Cobb all gone), and I don't see them or Vandy overtaking USC, much less rising to the top of the SECE. USC has some strong offensive talent returning next season, including arguably the two best returning offensive players in the conference (Jeffery & Lattimore). There is an open window for USC to climb up the SEC ladder, particularly the SECE. Catching up to the SECW will take more than a few 5* signees and an appearance in the SECCG, but the SECE is ripe for the taking. Now given USC's history they may blow this opportunity, but the opportunity is clearly there.

 

[jps1983]

The SECW has overtaken the SECE as the dominant Division, and the gap is fairly wide right now. I think most rational fans get that. But that is actually to USC's advantage. UGA is a mess to the point that they have had trouble luring top assistants the past few years. I think UF made a good hire, but the product they put on the field this year was a disaster (remember, USC beat them by 22... at the swamp). UT showed some life at the end of the season against the weaker part of their schedule, but I'm just not sold on Dooley, he's a Mike Shula clone if you ask me. KY's offense has been depleted (Locke, Hartline, Cobb all gone), and I don't see them or Vandy overtaking USC, much less rising to the top of the SECE. USC has some strong offensive talent returning next season, including arguably the two best returning offensive players in the conference (Jeffery & Lattimore). There is an open window for USC to climb up the SEC ladder, particularly the SECE. Catching up to the SECW will take more than a few 5* signees and an appearance in the SECCG, but the SECE is ripe for the taking. Now given USC's history they may blow this opportunity, but the opportunity is clearly there.

I agree. I think 2010 +2011 are going to be yall's best back-to-back years in the SEC this decade. Yall will lose a few players to next year's draft (Gilmore and Jeffrey at least I think will declare early). We aren't on yalls schedule but I don't know who yall pick up. Unless UF really develops this offseason or UGA finds a D and a new offensive weapon, the East is yall's next season. The West is going to be tough for us the next few seasons until Mullen leaves for a better job and the barn gets hammered by the NCAA (hopefully at least).

Edit: Sorry, thought I was responding to USCe poster when saying "yall"; didn't realize it was a usc/bama poster.

 

[ElephanTideis]

Sorry guys I thought this was the Jadeveon Clowney thread.

 

[wileybb22]

The SECW has overtaken the SECE as the dominant Division, and the gap is fairly wide right now. I think most rational fans get that. But that is actually to USC's advantage. UGA is a mess to the point that they have had trouble luring top assistants the past few years. I think UF made a good hire, but the product they put on the field this year was a disaster (remember, USC beat them by 22... at the swamp). UT showed some life at the end of the season against the weaker part of their schedule, but I'm just not sold on Dooley, he's a Mike Shula clone if you ask me. KY's offense has been depleted (Locke, Hartline, Cobb all gone), and I don't see them or Vandy overtaking USC, much less rising to the top of the SECE. USC has some strong offensive talent returning next season, including arguably the two best returning offensive players in the conference (Jeffery & Lattimore). There is an open window for USC to climb up the SEC ladder, particularly the SECE. Catching up to the SECW will take more than a few 5* signees and an appearance in the SECCG, but the SECE is ripe for the taking. Now given USC's history they may blow this opportunity, but the opportunity is clearly there.

So let me get this straight. Your excited because every one else is down in your division an you feel you have a chance? You must be proud of your team.I know were proud of ours. RTR

 

[BAMAMICH]

Sorry guys I thought this was the Jadeveon Clowney thread.

^^^ +1 I'm really hoping that he will sign a LOI for the Tide come Feb. 14th.

 

[The3rdWalterLou]

If Clowney signs with Bama...

I want to see him come in and be a WR in goal line situations and catch the jump ball. Just saying. Ole Miss did it with Greg Hardy and it is almost uncoverable when run well. I know we have great WR's, but A) It would be fun and B) It gets us back on topic.

 

[deliveryman35]

USC3521,

I wouldn't get too worked up if I were you. Unless the Sabans were able to make Mrs. Clowney completely change her mind--and to me she IS the decisive element in this whole thing-- I really don't see JC going anywhere in the end but with you guys. We all have an internal compass and when it points home that's a very strong urge to resist. But you have to admit we've made USC devote a lot of resources and time to keeping him pinned down than they otherwise should have. I predict he'll have a great 3 yr career in Columbia, but unless you guys go out and get some more players and can string 2-3 top 10 recruiting classes together then more than likely your school will remain in mediocrity. Eric Berry was a GREAT defensive player at UT, but how far did he alone take them? Not very far. And neither will JC with USCe, in the SEC. Get ready to cheer for sacks and qb hurries, because for the next three years I predict that's about all you're gonna get with UF ramping back up under a highly regarded, energetic, young coach and let's face it UT and UGA won't stay down much longer. In a way, I hope I'm wrong, but history says that I'm not.