Attack on recruiting stations in Chattanooga

[Shoeless]

..... A terrorist ought to be shot to death if he goes onto a military installation, ......

Fixed one small point.

 

[Crimson1967]

I was unaware the servicemen at the recruiting offices were not allowed to be armed. I thought that sign would mean I couldn't bring a gun inside. Given that they have access to top notch weapons training, allowing them to carry a weapon in case of emergency seems like a no brainier.


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[Tidewater]

Fixed one small point.

True, but knowing that there are dozens (for some Reserve/National Guard facilities) to thousands (active duty installations) of unarmed soldiers might make military installations a very attractive target. In fact, it already has.
I am not saying every soldier ought to be armed all the time on an installation, but the Military Police or hired civilian police forces would appear to be inadequate. At smaller installation like the Reserve Center in Chattanooga, it is cost prohibitive to hire 24/7 guards for smaller installation (like Chattanooga), but having no one armed is simply an unacceptable risk.

 

[Tidewater]

Good move here, hopefully more governors will follow his lead: http://www.katv.com/story/29575844/...litary-personnel-following-chattanooga-attack

Indiana, Texas and Florida follow suit.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Indiana, Texas and Florida follow suit.

Good!

 

[Mystical]

Good!

Lets go Alabama

 

[Bama Reb]

Lets go Alabama

Bentley has shown his true colors, and they are typical RINO. It won't happen until after he leaves office in 2017, and then only if a true Conservative governor takes his place.

 

[81usaf92]

Bentley has shown his true colors, and they are typical RINO. It won't happen until after he leaves office in 2017, and then only if a true Conservative governor takes his place.

Alabama has had a long string of weak governors so I don't suspect anything will change.

 

[Tide1986]

Alabama has had a long string of weak governors so I don't suspect anything will change.

Weak is one thing...Bentley is so much less than that.

 

[AV8N]

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/sto...d-not--wear-uniforms-offices-closed/30353587/

Looks like the DoD solution is to have Marine recruiters not wear their uniforms in public places. That's got to be good for recruiting, showing up at the local high school in khakis and a polo shirt.

I've seen such measures taken in foreign countries where the locals weren't fond of US military presence. Never thought it would come to that here.

 

[81usaf92]

Weak is one thing...Bentley is so much less than that.

I still don't see how he is any different than any governor that alabama has had since Folsom jr.With the big exception that he didn't do anything illegal like siegleman, he has just been a normal weak governor of alabama. The only difference is that his weakness has been amplified because of abrupt social change with gay marriage and the csa flag. Reilly, James, and siegleman would've more than likely done the same thing.

 

[Tide1986]

I still don't see how he is any different than any governor that alabama has had since Folsom jr.With the big exception that he didn't do anything illegal like siegleman, he has just been a normal weak governor of alabama. The only difference is that his weakness has been amplified because of abrupt social change with gay marriage and the csa flag. Reilly, James, and siegleman would've more than likely done the same thing.

Not to mention his deception about taxes.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Back to topic (hope no one minds), I see a three step solution. First, an armed guard outside (this alone would probably wipe out 90%+ of the problem, second, reverse the prohibition on armed recruiters (my God! What recruiting target would be put off by that - that's why they're there). Third, bulletproof glass. That does away with 99.9% of these attacks...

 

[Tidewater]

Back to topic (hope no one minds),

I don't mind at all.

I see a three step solution. First, an armed guard outside (this alone would probably wipe out 90%+ of the problem, second, reverse the prohibition on armed recruiters (my God! What recruiting target would be put off by that - that's why they're there). Third, bulletproof glass. That does away with 99.9% of these attacks...

I would agree, generally, especially for the big bases like Fort Bragg, Norfolk Navy Base or Eglin AFB. The odd man out, is the National Guard Armory or Reserve Center. The USAR/AFR/USNR/USMCR/NG have full time Reservists/Guardsmen who work a "regular" work schedule) Go to a Reserve Center on a Wednesday on October, and you may have a dozen people working at one of those (a lot more on a drill weekend). Putting 1/12th to 1/6th (24 hour guards) of your work force on guard duty (even if contracted security firm guys) is fairly high overhead. For the smaller installations like this one, I believe training and arming some portion of them would solve most of the problem. Just tell the selected individuals that part of their duty to to carry a side arm in the Reserve Center, and in the event of an attack, to protect themselves and their co-workers while the cops are en route.
Having a declared policy of no armed soldiers at an installation is to provide bad men with a target-rich environment.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I don't mind at all.


I would agree, generally, especially for the big bases like Fort Bragg, Norfolk Navy Base or Eglin AFB. The odd man out, is the National Guard Armory or Reserve Center. The USAR/AFR/USNR/USMCR/NG have full time Reservists/Guardsmen who work a "regular" work schedule) Go to a Reserve Center on a Wednesday on October, and you may have a dozen people working at one of those (a lot more on a drill weekend). Putting 1/12th to 1/6th (24 hour guards) of your work force on guard duty (even if contracted security firm guys) is fairly high overhead. For the smaller installations like this one, I believe training and arming some portion of them would solve most of the problem. Just tell the selected individuals that part of their duty to to carry a side arm in the Reserve Center, and in the event of an attack, to protect themselves and their co-workers while the cops are en route.
Having a declared policy of no armed soldiers at an installation is to provide bad men with a target-rich environment.

Thanks for the perspective and you are, as usual, right...

 

[Displaced Bama Fan]

Still no call from the WH to lower the flag in respect for the 5 that were murdered by a muslim terrorist. However, we can lower the flag for a "national treasure" such as Whitney Houston. Shameful.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Still no call from the WH to lower the flag in respect for the 5 that were murdered by a muslim terrorist. However, we can lower the flag for a "national treasure" such as Whitney Houston. Shameful.

Obama didn't order the flag flown at half mast for WH, Governor Christie did: http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/chriskyle.asp

 

[Displaced Bama Fan]

Obama didn't order the flag flown at half mast for WH, Governor Christie did: http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/chriskyle.asp

Even worse then...for the love of God can we get a real leader?

 

[crimsonaudio]

Even worse then...for the love of God can we get a real leader?

How is that worse? Christie can do whatever he wants in his state, but Obama did not order the flag lowered in WH's honor.

 

[Displaced Bama Fan]

How is that worse? Christie can do whatever he wants in his state, but Obama did not order the flag lowered in WH's honor.

I stand corrected on the WH ordering the flag lowered for WH. As for Christie doing it, yes, its still disgraceful. She died from a drug overdose. I'm not sure that's worthy of "honoring" by lowering the flag.