Link: Aubarn whines about "hideout" trick play to the SEC

AlistarWills

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I don't care if Auburn has done a ton of this crap before, I hate seeing it, though I'm not surprised to see oklahoma crawling the gutter under venables.

Here is the audio of Teddy Lehman bragging about it:


I hate cheaters, I don't care who it is.
Venables deserves a fine and suspension. If this was indeed emphasized to not be doing this type of thing and they actually practiced it, which is what these people working for OU has said, then nail him to the wall for the next conference game and make him not have comms with the team all week or at the game. Show they mean business.
Now, I have another question. Aren’t all players supposed to be inside the numbers or something presnap. Isn’t there some rule about that? One of yall knows what I’m talking about.
 

tusks_n_raider

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The team who is known for getting questionable calls at home was on the receiving end of it. I love that for them. 😂
Me too.

Also I remember when we got absolutely hosed by Autry’s crew in Knoxville in 2022 and an AU fan here said we should be happy for Tenn winning one for the 1st time in 16 years.

I mean lol

I’m only upset that OU only got away with that 1 play.
 

DzynKingRTR

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Me too.

Also I remember when we got absolutely hosed by Autry’s crew in Knoxville in 2022 and an AU fan here said we should be happy for Tenn winning one for the 1st time in 16 years.

I mean lol

I’m only upset that OU only got away with that 1 play.
That barner poster had repeated issue with not knowing his place.

The only thing I hate about the sooners getting away with it is it could happen against us.
 
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LOL at the Barn. Justice for so many times they've played football trickeration!!!

But blown calls are simply part of football. We lost a game last year to OU, ironically, because of a bad call...but we also played very poorly in that game too.

I do think getting full time, professional referees would change some of this, but it would be harder to do with the sheer number of games that are being played simultaneously on any given Saturday. But maybe start with the power 5 conferences and go from there???

But, even with professional crews, you'll still have missed calls.

IMO, the best/fastest improvement is to have a crew of reviewers who do reviews off site and get the reviews out of the judgment of the head ref on the field (looking into a 1-foot monitor). Give the review crew the power to change bad calls, including PI calls, which can change the outcomes of games just as much as blow TD, fumble or INT calls.
The major conferences (ACC, SEC, and B1G) conduct reviews (those that are reviewable) with a centralized review center in conjunction with the on field crew chief. The SEC review center is Birmingham, ACC in Charlotte/Greensboro and B1G in Rosemont, IL.. Most of the major “things” are reviewable with the exception of OPI/DPI, holding and formation calls.
For things not called or something that is called that is questionable, I would be in favor of something more along the lines of the NFL challenge. Give each team two challenges. If they challenge and it’s changed, they keep the challenge.
 

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Venables deserves a fine and suspension. If this was indeed emphasized to not be doing this type of thing and they actually practiced it, which is what these people working for OU has said, then nail him to the wall for the next conference game and make him not have comms with the team all week or at the game. Show they mean business.
Now, I have another question. Aren’t all players supposed to be inside the numbers or something presnap. Isn’t there some rule about that? One of yall knows what I’m talking about.
If you're in the mood to fine or suspend somebody how about the refs who let it happen? Appears OU let the refs know about the play and was advised BY THE OFFICIALS that it was a legal play. Once the official tells you it is legal .................
 
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This whole idea "you can't use deception".....ha ha ha......so play action passes can't be called, right? Flea flickers, ends around, reverses, all have to go, right? Auburn can't line up and then race up and do an onsides kick to get the ball back, right?

See where this goes?

And you know what?

They'll find a way to do the dumbest thing possible.
What I don't understand is how you can use "injured player" coming out as part of your trickery. I thought these clown colleges were lawsuit averse? You're literally using player injury as a punch line. This seems a bit brave, no?
 

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Would someone please explain just exactly what was illegal about the play. A high ranking law enforcement officer once told me, "If there is not a law against it, you can do it." So, what was the rule that make the play illegal?
 

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Would someone please explain just exactly what was illegal about the play. A high ranking law enforcement officer once told me, "If there is not a law against it, you can do it." So, what was the rule that make the play illegal?
The player was limping off like he was going to sub out…and didn’t.
 

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The player was limping off like he was going to sub out…and didn’t.
Sorry but this is ridiculous.

Limp or no limp, you don't ASSUME the guy is gonna sub out. And if you do assume that, then you're at fault for whatever happens on the play. It is the defense's job to account for 11 guys on the field.

What's next? We penalize a team when a player acts like he's the ball carrier but isn't? Deception plays have ALWAYS existed in football and the barn is simply mad because it was them who got burned this time.

It ain't much fun when the rabbit's got the gun.
 
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Sorry but this is ridiculous.

Limp or no limp, you don't ASSUME the guy is gonna sub out. And if you do assume that, then you're at fault for whatever happens on the play. It is the defense's job to account for 11 guys on the field.

What's next? We penalize a team when a player acts like he's the ball carrier but isn't? Deception plays have ALWAYS existed in football and the barn is simply mad because it was them who got burned this time.

It ain't much fun when the rabbit's got the gun.
The ridiculous part is trying it in the first place…and then getting away with it.
 

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The one thing I do find to be poetic justice is that the other wide receiver engaged the Auburn DBs in smack talk so they did not notice the "subbing" player did not actually sub out.

I still think the whole play is bush league which speaks poorly of the program. It about as ethical as using fishing line to trip an opposing DB during a game.
 
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