Auburn Conspiracies After the Georgia Game
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It's a little know fact Norm that the clapping motion in Uganda looks a lot like the timeout motion here in the good old U S of A
Here’s the thing. After the fumble play, maybe it was a bad call maybe it wasn’t, but they had Georgia on their own 1 yard line. Georgia had done nothing on offense the entire half.
And Auburn essentially folded up like a cheap table.
They let Georgia drive nearly the length of the field and kick a FG to end the half and aided them with two horrendous personal fouls to do it. Just stupid boneheaded plays. Then, they gain less than 50 yards the entire rest of the game.
Freeze is a used car salesman fraud. Gus was not much better. Harsin was a horrible hire.
That’s why Auburn is in the shape it’s in. Threes straight bad coaching hires/retentions (should have called Malzahn’s bluff and let him take that Arkansas job), not the SEC office being in Birmingham. Not some grand conspiracy against Auburn.
And Auburn essentially folded up like a cheap table.
They let Georgia drive nearly the length of the field and kick a FG to end the half and aided them with two horrendous personal fouls to do it. Just stupid boneheaded plays. Then, they gain less than 50 yards the entire rest of the game.
Freeze is a used car salesman fraud. Gus was not much better. Harsin was a horrible hire.
That’s why Auburn is in the shape it’s in. Threes straight bad coaching hires/retentions (should have called Malzahn’s bluff and let him take that Arkansas job), not the SEC office being in Birmingham. Not some grand conspiracy against Auburn.
That's the sort of thing where I think some disciplinary action is warranted. Either with the coach, the refs, or both. He clearly was yelling timeout and signalling timeout. Even if the ref didn't hear him say it (which I doubt), he still did. Someone should be punished for allowing him to get the clock stopped and his timeout back.
Yeah, the video I saw he is signaling timeout and you can see his mouth say timeout.
Kirby is a lying sack of crap. Sankey should suspend him for the next game.
Let's all be honest - brutally so, if necessary:
Auburn's program has been a train wreck since just before the end of the Pat Dye Regime. And Dye was the only stability they've had in the damn near half century since Shug Jordan left.
Look at what they've done:
- hired Terry Bowden, with zero relevant experience, to replace Dye
- basically let Bowden know he was done just six games after he won their first division title
- hired a guy (Tubs) who couldn't beat Alabama
- kept him around solely because he was able to beat a severely crippled Alabama for several years
- even then tried to replace him while he was still coach (secretly via Jetgate)
- fired him (or he quit) and hired a 5-19 coach from Iowa St
- fired that guy two years after a controversial national championship
- hired the OC from the 2010 team, who opened with a splash
- overpaid him out of a crippling fear he'd whip them at (checks notes) Arkansas
- hired Mr. Potato Head and shot him out of a cannon
- hired a sex addict cheater ONLY because he had a record of success against Alabama
Seriously - their entire program is a reaction to ours. They either hire a guy who has beaten us or they overpay to keep someone they fear will humiliate them. And let's face it, Gus only had leverage because of three improbable wins in 2010, 2013, and 2017. That one win over us (2019) cost them $49 million.
Auburn's program has been a train wreck since just before the end of the Pat Dye Regime. And Dye was the only stability they've had in the damn near half century since Shug Jordan left.
Look at what they've done:
- hired Terry Bowden, with zero relevant experience, to replace Dye
- basically let Bowden know he was done just six games after he won their first division title
- hired a guy (Tubs) who couldn't beat Alabama
- kept him around solely because he was able to beat a severely crippled Alabama for several years
- even then tried to replace him while he was still coach (secretly via Jetgate)
- fired him (or he quit) and hired a 5-19 coach from Iowa St
- fired that guy two years after a controversial national championship
- hired the OC from the 2010 team, who opened with a splash
- overpaid him out of a crippling fear he'd whip them at (checks notes) Arkansas
- hired Mr. Potato Head and shot him out of a cannon
- hired a sex addict cheater ONLY because he had a record of success against Alabama
Seriously - their entire program is a reaction to ours. They either hire a guy who has beaten us or they overpay to keep someone they fear will humiliate them. And let's face it, Gus only had leverage because of three improbable wins in 2010, 2013, and 2017. That one win over us (2019) cost them $49 million.
The fumble was a fumble commentators missed big on that. Ball was punched twice, first time knocked it out and all Jackson has was the defenders hand. Commentary focused on the second punch, but ball was already loose.
Yeah my Aubie kids and their spouses lost their collective minds when I suggested as much. “They were robbed” is a hill they will die on….
My impression is, if they called it a TD, they wouldn't overturn the call on review. I feel the replay couldn't support one side or the other.
And aren’t they trained to call fumble and let the play go so as to not blow an inadvertent whistle killing the play, which they ended up doing anyway, taking a TD from Georgie.
True, which is the best practice. Hold on to the ball a second or two after crossing the goal line and you won't have to leave it up to replay.
Wasn't it called a fumble on the field?
The issue was the arm and the ball were similar in color so it was hard for some people to differentiate (ironically there was a very controversial Auburn play a few years ago with a similar problem). From what I could tell the arm was in there and the ball was moving before it crossed the line. Either way, I don't think there was enough proof to overturn a call on the field.
The announcer went really hard on thinking it was a touchdown and oversold it, I think it was even walked back a bit after a break where something along the lines of each side will see it differently or something but it was one of those issues where they didn't do the audience any good by pretending something was clear when it wasn't. I watched a game last week with a similar issue, commentators and even the review booth were in agreement a foot was in bound and over-turned a call, but even fans of the team that benefited admitted you couldn't actually see that his foot was in bounds because it was obscured by an arm.
You just can't over-turn stuff because you think something happened, you have to do it because you know something happened and in this case I think they did it how they were supposed to, unlike a lot of other stuff in the game.
How do you know it would be 17-0 at the half.
Georgia would have started at the 25 instead of the 1. They could have very reasonably made it 17-3 or 17-7 at the half. Neither is insurmountable.
60 minute game
That’s the thing. This type of behavior simply cannot be allowed. Kirby gaslit the officials to their faces and got away with it.
how do you know Kirby wasn't hungry and wanted a hot dog but he was 10 cents short. He was yelling dime out to his assistants?
It seems like it was a legit call, but I don’t even care if it wasn’t. It’s not like condemning the refs is going to make them suck less.
I’m just enjoying the barn getting their comeuppance, even though this isn’t really a good example of the kind of calls they’ve gotten that really turned the outcome of games. The kick six might never have happened if they had been flagged for ineligible receivers downfield on the tying TD.
On other occasions they got bad calls in their favor that didn’t affect the outcome but were just inexplicable. Does anyone remember the game against Mississippi State (2011 I think) when they were given a first down when they were half a chain length short? The explanation was that the last link is part of the stick.
I’m just enjoying the barn getting their comeuppance, even though this isn’t really a good example of the kind of calls they’ve gotten that really turned the outcome of games. The kick six might never have happened if they had been flagged for ineligible receivers downfield on the tying TD.
On other occasions they got bad calls in their favor that didn’t affect the outcome but were just inexplicable. Does anyone remember the game against Mississippi State (2011 I think) when they were given a first down when they were half a chain length short? The explanation was that the last link is part of the stick.
