Im just saying if you want to say Michigan, Washington, and Oregon aren’t playing anyone by using SOS then you need to apply it to Georgia as well.
Bama getting no respect
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This question still makes zero sense based on what I actually said. I never said Bama should be #1. I said we were getting punished for playing a brutal schedule.
Michigan and UGA are elite teams. Washington and Oregon are not. That's the difference.
UGA has multiple wins over top 15 teams. What does Oregon have? The committee in their pocket apparently.
Georgia was in a dogfight with UAB and Vandy for much of the game and nearly lost to Auburn. How are you that certain about Georgia? Their best win is Missouri with a bunch of home cooking.
Anyways I had fun with this but I think it has ran its course. So I’m bowing out.
Have you watched UGA in the 2nd half of the season? They have improved every bit as much as we have. They are dominating people.
It does seem their priority is ordered like so:
W-L record
Head-to-Head results
"style points" aka "not struggling in games" aka "eye test"
Strength of Schedule
G5 teams are devalued on their weak strength of schedule, but P5 teams really aren't, except as a lower priority tiebreaker. Undefeated P5 teams really don't need to care about SOS. It also doesn't seem like they use a comprehensive ranking formula for strength of schedule like Sagarin etc, but maybe look at things like wins against ranked teams or some such.
I think Oregon is ahead of Texas/Alabama because they haven't been squeaking by. They have been clobbering teams they are supposed to.
I think the PAC is getting a bump in perception, but the SEC has done itself no favors with their poor out-of-conference play. Furthermore, I think there's not much there to help a team that has improved from an early season loss.
If SOS were more of a consideration than style points then Oregon would be behind Texas/Alabama.
I once thought that Texas beating Alabama might be something that Bama could overcome by continuing to improve and beating Georgia, but if both Texas and Alabama end up one-loss conference champions, I think Texas will be ranked higher because the committee explicitly points out Head-to-Head results as a tiebreaking ranking criterion and will not hesitate to use it.
I guess that means 2023 Alabama could be the best team ever left out.
All of you need to stop the bickering or we'll just lock the thread.
Very good post. The last sentence is something I have been thinking about for 3 weeks now. It is unthinkable to go undefeated in the SEC, including a win over #1 UGA in the SEC Championship, and NOT to make the playoffs. Like, I honestly don't care what the other teams across the country have done. Any team with that resume should have a legit case for the #1 seed.
I have said since the CFP started that the time for playing tougher schedules in a P5 conference was over. With a committee you will be rewarded for winning more than anything else. Win all of your games and you are in.
The top 5 teams in the poll right now are being rewarded for that, and only that - not losing.
Why is Oregon ranked 6th? Because they plan on putting in the winner of the PAC unless they have more than one loss. That has been the media's mantra since the first week of the season. So they put Oregon at 6 to clear the road for that.
Why is Texas 7th? Because they lead their conference and also beat the 8th ranked team on the road.
No one cares after that.
The top 5 teams in the poll right now are being rewarded for that, and only that - not losing.
Why is Oregon ranked 6th? Because they plan on putting in the winner of the PAC unless they have more than one loss. That has been the media's mantra since the first week of the season. So they put Oregon at 6 to clear the road for that.
Why is Texas 7th? Because they lead their conference and also beat the 8th ranked team on the road.
No one cares after that.
Tomorrow night will be interesting because FSU should take a serious tumble and be forced to play their way back into consideration after losing their starting quarterback.
Whatever the committee does with FSU could give some insight into what might happen in regards to other teams and their rankings.
Whatever the committee does with FSU could give some insight into what might happen in regards to other teams and their rankings.
How about we just let the games get played? The current rankings mean absolutely nothing. If we win out and get left out by all means argue over what the committee thinks. I cannot control nor can any of you.
I agree. But, it is very deliberately NOT clear. They don’t want people to be able to directly question them, and they want the leeway to change the rules based on matchups they would prefer. And I can live with that usually, but this year in particular it is pretty obvious that different criteria are being used for different teams. And not just with Alabama. It kind of sours the whole process. Just like during a football game, different ref crews have different standards. But as long as their standards are enforced equally, it’s fine. It’s when they are not enforced equally that it’s not fine.
I'd hate to think that the committee wouldn't give a team the chance solely off an injury. Nor do I believe they should tank a team because they lost a player. Give the back up a chance... we see what happened with OSU in 2014...
If we beat dual reigning national champion Georgia we should be in. No one can make an argument otherwise.
I think a few posters didn't quit drinking after Saturday night.
I saw a mock 12 team bracket the other day if it were this year and they had georgia, Alabama and Mizzo in the same bracket. So the crazy doesn't end with the 12 team playoff. The committee will rank them according to how they want them to match up. If you had georgia and bama and mizzo in three of the four brackets you risk an all SEC natty. I certainly don't want to run the gauntlet and then turn around and play those SEC teams again in the early playoff but that's what is coming next. Axe the committee and let the BCS or something like it rank them. Happy Thanksgiving! RT
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