Baylor needs to hire some good lawyers (Update: Briles Fired, AD and Starr Resigns)

LA4Bama

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I'm trying to figure out what punishment Baylor would get in this situation. Does anyone remain employed by Baylor that has been named in any accusations? I know some left on their own, but Baylor fired many when the findings were presented to the Regents.
What I think: The NCAA should give show cause to the coaches and/or administrators who can be proven to have done wrong. They should simply put the university on probation, meaning no additional penalties now since everyone involved is gone, but if it happens again, consider it a second offense with much graver consequences to come.
Oh yeah, and leave the law up to the lawyers, aka, the justice dept. which is going to deal with title ix. NCAA needs to be far from the business of enforcing federal statutes.
 
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Matt0424

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Where's the guy who said Briles was just the scapegoat in all of this? I want to watch him try and squirm his way out of this.

My two cents, Briles should be black balled from any kind of coaching forever.

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TRU

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As a professor at a large state institution, we are required to take Title IX training every year. This was a MASSIVE violation. Baylor is looking at significant fines and perhaps a loss of federal support. That means no research grants, no Pell grants, no federally guaranteed student loans...In other words a massacre of the research and teaching missions of the university. Faculty with research grants are going to bail and take their grants elsewhere and a large proportion of their students will flat out not be able to afford to go there. That will leave the service as the one leg of the academic triad - and in Baylor's case this may mean community service.

I would wager that they are looking at an eight figure fine at least.
 

crimsonaudio

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Briles appeared on ESPN’s College GameDay this fall for in a sit-down interview with Tom Rinaldi, in which he apologized (for nothing specific) and choked back tears when asked what he would say to his deceased parents about the scandal and his subsequent firing. I’ve sat in Briles’s office and discussed the importance of second chances; he talked throughout his career about not casting the first stone and wanting to show others grace. Because of those conversations, I wanted to believe his tears that day were real.

What I see now is that this pathetic excuse for a man would stop at nothing to win.
How many more sickening Baylor details does college football need before it changes?
 

BradtheImpaler

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Graham hired former defensive coordinator Phil Bennett, a man who bragged to Baylor fans that Sam Ukwuachu was expected to be eligible for the 2015 season and would add depth to the Bears’ defense. In August 2015, Ukwuachu was found guilty of raping a former Baylor soccer player. That doesn’t make Bennett untouchable though? Arizona State needs out of the Pac-12 South cellar, and he can probably help them improve on a defense that gave up a conference-worst 520.5 yards per game in 2016.
Take the fact that a rape took place away, and this is kind of hilarious from a football perspective. How is Baylor's former defensive coordinator going to improve on 520.5 yards per game?
 

Crimson1967

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I think this is more of an NCAA issue than Penn State. It involves football players and a coverup by the athletic department. Even worse, a victim is a student-athlete.


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Jon

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I think this is more of an NCAA issue than Penn State. It involves football players and a coverup by the athletic department. Even worse, a victim is a student-athlete.


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I agree

I've always thought that while awful and disgusting Penn State's issues provided them no football benefit and therefor any NCAA penalty would be over reach. Baylor was keeping guys eligible by covering up and not investigating and therefor they should get slammed by the NCAA
 

B1GTide

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I agree

I've always thought that while awful and disgusting Penn State's issues provided them no football benefit and therefor any NCAA penalty would be over reach. Baylor was keeping guys eligible by covering up and not investigating and therefor they should get slammed by the NCAA
Impermissible benefits? When a player receives something that is not available to other students because he is an athlete, the NCAA steps in. This protection from prosecution is clearly an impermissible benefit.The school needs to have its football program shut down. Heck, the entire school needs to be shut down.
 

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Well, you've persuaded me. I originally thought the two instances were pretty much parallel on NCAA vs. criminal / civil. But you're right.

Whereas Penn State didn't get an on-field benefit from Sandusky's crimes, Baylor did generate a competitive advantage by covering up felonies committed by players.

My position is changed, and I now believe Baylor's crimes are both NCAA violations (impermissible benefits / competitive advantage) and criminal / civil (covering up sexual assaults and related offenses -- which I still do believe are the exclusive purview of the courts).

Thanks for making me think.
 

Jon

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Impermissible benefits? When a player receives something that is not available to other students because he is an athlete, the NCAA steps in. This protection from prosecution is clearly an impermissible benefit.The school needs to have its football program shut down. Heck, the entire school needs to be shut down.
agree
 

uafan4life

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The only team Briles should be allowed to coach is a team of dogs preparing for a leg-humping competition.

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