Baylor needs to hire some good lawyers (Update: Briles Fired, AD and Starr Resigns)

RTR91

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Big 12 Release

The Big 12 Conference Board of Directors voted unanimously to withhold one-quarter (25 percent) of future revenue distribution payments to Baylor University, pending the outcome of third-party verification review of required changes to Baylor’s athletics procedures and to institutional governance of its intercollegiate athletics programs, among other matters.
 

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When I was growing up in the 70s my mom knew all the neighborhood moms. They all talked on the phone and knew everything in the neighborhood and then some. Oh the gossip train! When I was a at IBM they did a funny test in training. Out of a room of 30 people they started a story at the front.. and they passed it on. By the time it got to the end the story was so wrong and so much more embellished. Great exercise!

Sing this with me... Blinded by the light! Its really sad the people on this board that wish harm to others and they don't even know what the hell they are talking about. Stick with your own cesspool! Roll tide!
 

4Q Basket Case

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That will sting a bit.
Notice it's withhold, not forfeit. As I read it, I think they get it back if they make the required changes.

But based in quotes from members of the Board of Regents, and large donors, I highly doubt that a facelift in the Athletic Department or "governance procedures" will change the culture.

This is a place that, in the space of less than 15 years has had the head basketball coach covering up a murder of one of his players by another of his players. The head football coach has covered up a pattern of rape and other sexual assault by multiple football players. The Athletic Director and the President of the school have been complicit in the coverup of the sexual assaults. A vocal minority of the BOR has been in favor of retaining the criminals.

I just don't see the actions of the Big 12 Conference as being material enough to fix the root cause, which is institutional culture.

I hope they lose tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars in legal judgments, and the participants, particularly Briles and the former AD end up in jail. Too often, that's the sort of thing that has to happen to change a culture.
 

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When I was growing up in the 70s my mom knew all the neighborhood moms. They all talked on the phone and knew everything in the neighborhood and then some. Oh the gossip train! When I was a at IBM they did a funny test in training. Out of a room of 30 people they started a story at the front.. and they passed it on. By the time it got to the end the story was so wrong and so much more embellished. Great exercise!

Sing this with me... Blinded by the light! Its really sad the people on this board that wish harm to others and they don't even know what the hell they are talking about. Stick with your own cesspool! Roll tide!
I'm sorry your mother couldn't tell the truth like a decent person.
 

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When I was growing up in the 70s my mom knew all the neighborhood moms. They all talked on the phone and knew everything in the neighborhood and then some. Oh the gossip train! When I was a at IBM they did a funny test in training. Out of a room of 30 people they started a story at the front.. and they passed it on. By the time it got to the end the story was so wrong and so much more embellished. Great exercise!

Sing this with me... Blinded by the light! Its really sad the people on this board that wish harm to others and they don't even know what the hell they are talking about. Stick with your own cesspool! Roll tide!
And your name is KillVols? Interesting.......
 

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Cesspool??? Where'd that come from?

When I was growing up in the 70s my mom knew all the neighborhood moms. They all talked on the phone and knew everything in the neighborhood and then some. Oh the gossip train! When I was a at IBM they did a funny test in training. Out of a room of 30 people they started a story at the front.. and they passed it on. By the time it got to the end the story was so wrong and so much more embellished. Great exercise!

Sing this with me... Blinded by the light! Its really sad the people on this board that wish harm to others and they don't even know what the hell they are talking about. Stick with your own cesspool! Roll tide!
 

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When I was growing up in the 70s my mom knew all the neighborhood moms. They all talked on the phone and knew everything in the neighborhood and then some. Oh the gossip train! When I was a at IBM they did a funny test in training. Out of a room of 30 people they started a story at the front.. and they passed it on. By the time it got to the end the story was so wrong and so much more embellished. Great exercise!

Sing this with me... Blinded by the light! Its really sad the people on this board that wish harm to others and they don't even know what the hell they are talking about. Stick with your own cesspool! Roll tide!
LOL, you're defending Baylor over this? You think the story just somehow got twisted along the way?

Goodness...
 

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When I was growing up in the 70s my mom knew all the neighborhood moms. They all talked on the phone and knew everything in the neighborhood and then some. Oh the gossip train! When I was a at IBM they did a funny test in training. Out of a room of 30 people they started a story at the front.. and they passed it on. By the time it got to the end the story was so wrong and so much more embellished. Great exercise!

Sing this with me... Blinded by the light! Its really sad the people on this board that wish harm to others and they don't even know what the hell they are talking about. Stick with your own cesspool! Roll tide!
 

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So ..... who has control at Baylor? The Board? Who elects the board? Can the "Good Old Boys" or the "Establishment" in control be replaced?

I have never seen anything like this. It seems those in power want to keep their power even if it destroys the University. Can the Governor of Texas fire the whole bunch and start over?
 

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So ..... who has control at Baylor? The Board? Who elects the board? Can the "Good Old Boys" or the "Establishment" in control be replaced?

I have never seen anything like this. It seems those in power want to keep their power even if it destroys the University. Can the Governor of Texas fire the whole bunch and start over?
Agreed. I don't think the governor can do anything as it's a private university, but SACS can pull their accreditation, which would be akin to shutting the school down.
 

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Threatening to pull a major school's accreditation is about as credible as North Korea threatening to invade and conquer California.

Other posters are right in that to actually do so would effectively shut the school down. Which would have nasty implications for the whole student body, all the employees, the residents of whatever town the school is in, and all the alumni. Which is why it never happens.

Over the years, I've heard saber-rattling and bluster about this. Not so long ago, there was some regarding the lack of independence and effective challenge from the Auburn BOT. But nothing happened, and nothing was ever really going to.

What's the most athletically or academically prominent college or university to actually have accreditation revoked? I honestly can't name one.
 

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What's the most athletically or academically prominent college or university to actually have accreditation revoked? I honestly can't name one.
I can't readily think of any prominent schools that had their accreditation revoked, though Lambeth University had it happen in 2010 and ceased operations in 2011. They were then acquired by the University of Memphis as a satellite campus.
 

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Morris Brown College in Atlanta was a private HBCU that lost theirs several years ago after some big financial scandal. They are still open, but hanging on by a string.


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LOL, you're defending Baylor over this? You think the story just somehow got twisted along the way?

Goodness...
i was on the boat of defending Briles...but not anymore. that program needs to be shut down, and briles needs to be banned from ever coaching football in the college and high school ranks. baylor university is at fault just as much as the baylor football coaches are
 

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I'm fine with giving Baylor the death penalty but opposed to any revocation of accreditation. Too many quality professors who had nothing to do with that.


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