Biden and the Classified Closet

[92tide]

man, this is getting juicy. i bet tara reade has a copy of all of those docs

 

[twofbyc]

Lot of truth there, except the Biden administration wasn't free to release the info until they did. It wasn't politically-timed...

That’s why I said I had no problem with it. The National Archives and DOJ did what they did when they needed to do it.

 

[Bama_N_Va]

Hunter paintings are selling at a higher price than some Picasso's... Its all a racket...

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Question: if the DOJ takes possession of these documents for the duration of an investigation, does that mean these documents are off-limits to a congressional investigative committee?

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Question: if the DOJ takes possession of these documents for the duration of an investigation, does that mean these documents are off-limits to a congressional investigative committee?

Up to DOJ. Criminal prosecutions take precedence and congressional subpoenas are pretty toothless, anyway...

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Up to DOJ. Criminal prosecutions take precedence and congressional subpoenas are pretty toothless, anyway...

Thanks, that was my assumption.

 

[Crimson1967]

That’s why I said I had no problem with it. The National Archives and DOJ did what they did when they needed to do it.
And for those who may have forgotten (unless he changed parties), Garland is a Republican. Seems he would have made a much better SC justice than the one that stole his seat; he’s not a “Republican” first, but the chief legal officer of the U.S. first. That’s not common among those in his party (or the other party, to a lesser degree).

Could you give a source saying Garland is a Republican?

 

[Bamaro]

Six additional items, including documents with classified markings, were found in President Joe Biden's Delaware home after Department of Justice officials searched the residence Friday, the president's personal attorney said Saturday.

 

[twofbyc]

Could you give a source saying Garland is a Republican?

I cannot so I will retract the statement. I can’t find evidence he’s a member of either party, but I thought I remembered reading, when Obama nominated him, that it would be hard for Republicans to not allow a vote for a moderate member of their own party.
I can’t find any evidence of affiliation with either party; only that he was widely regarded by members of both parties as a centrist.
He is reportedly an Independent.

 

[twofbyc]

And the hits just keep on coming. Story I read said some docs dated back to his days as Senator; not certain if those were marked as classified or not.

 

[92tide]

And the hits just keep on coming. Story I read said some docs dated back to his days as Senator; not certain if those were marked as classified or not.

it's a hit job. so yeah, the "hits" keep coming. this is the next benghazi1!1!!! e-amils "scandal" du jour

 

[Bazza]

This seems to be a fair analysis of the current situation.....

 

[CrimsonJazz]

MSN

Decades from now, when the government belatedly releases the Trump and Biden purloined records, Americans may well wonder what all the fuss was about.

The document cases tied to the president and his predecessor dramatize what national security experts of every political stripe have known for decades: Far too many government records are classified. Most are classified not to protect sources and methods – the standard intelligence community rationale – but to protect intel analysts against embarrassment or to protect government "secrets" that the public should know.

A famous example is the classification of millions of documents ostensibly tied to President John F. Kennedy's assassination: Each release of a new trove, most recently last month, has prompted questions about why most of the documents were classified in the first place.

An issue of national security
In examining another American tragedy, the bipartisan 9/11 commission found that far from protecting the United States, excessive classification had left our country vulnerable to the 2001 terror attacks by restricting important intelligence findings about al-Qaida and other jihadist groups to too few essential U.S. security figures.

I found this to be an interesting take on the whole situation. I know, I know, some will say, "It doesn't matter if the documents were over-classified. They still broke the law!" Granted, this is undoubtedly true, but I'd still love to know what information was actually contained in these documents before formulating my final opinion.

 

[jthomas666]

Dear Lord

First on CNN: Classified documents found at Pence's Indiana home | CNN Politics

A lawyer for former Vice President Mike Pence discovered about a dozen documents marked as classified at Pence's Indiana home last week, and he has turned those classified records over to the FBI, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

www.cnn.com

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Dear Lord

First on CNN: Classified documents found at Pence's Indiana home | CNN Politics

A lawyer for former Vice President Mike Pence discovered about a dozen documents marked as classified at Pence's Indiana home last week, and he has turned those classified records over to the FBI, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

www.cnn.com

If you’re an elected official, current or former, and have any classified docs at home, now’s the time to disclose. You’ll be lost in the noise.

 

[mrusso]

If you’re an elected official, current or former, and have any classified docs at home, now’s the time to disclose. You’ll be lost in the noise.

Not an elected official...but I'm happy to report no classified docs have been found at my home.







Yet!

 

[CrimsonJazz]

If you’re an elected official, current or former, and have any classified docs at home, now’s the time to disclose. You’ll be lost in the noise.

Good point. The cynic in me wonders what they're trying to distract us from.

 

[TexasBama]

Dear Lord

First on CNN: Classified documents found at Pence's Indiana home | CNN Politics

A lawyer for former Vice President Mike Pence discovered about a dozen documents marked as classified at Pence's Indiana home last week, and he has turned those classified records over to the FBI, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

www.cnn.com

It's almost to the point where maybe I should start looking around my house for these type docs.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

It's almost to the point where maybe I should start looking around my house for these type docs.

Have your lawyer do it for you. That seems to be the passing fad nowadays.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Good point. The cynic in me wonders what they're trying to distract us from.

When a POTUS or VPOTUS leaves office, there are zillions of boxes of documents, and in most cases, I think they honestly didn’t know they had the classified docs.

I saw an editorial cartoon the other day depicting Obama, W, and Clinton frantically going through their own offices looking for such material. I’m guessing an operation similar to those in the cartoon is how the ones Pence had were turned up.

Still, that raises the question of treatment of classified information on a day-to-day basis. As in, why are you viewing and storing this stuff in an environment and under processes that lend themselves to state secrets being mixed in with records of who you saw on a given day?