Bielema: SEC needs to have 9 conference games...because numbers matter.

It seems to me this argument disappeared forever when:
1) Alabama played an ALL-SEC schedule in 2020 and never lost.
2) Ohio State played 1/2 the games the SEC did and played for a national title.
3) It was USC that backed out of another floor wiping, and who can blame them after 52-6?

Come back and whine when the SEC plays half a season.
 
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It seems to me this argument disappeared forever when:
1) Alabama played an ALL-SEC schedule in 2020 and never lost.
2) Ohio State played 1/2 the games the SEC did and played for a national title.
3) It was USC that backed out of another floor wiping, and who can blame them after 52-6?

Come back and whine when the SEC plays half a season.
People still complain about the SEC playing FCS teams in November, as if that single thing should settle the entire argument.
 
People still complain about the SEC playing FCS teams in November, as if that single thing should settle the entire argument.

Meh... Southern FCS teams or the Montana and Dakota teams would give the MAC and Mountain West a run for their money.

Plus, FCS teams get a nice payout, or they wouldn't want to be punching bags.
 
People still complain about the SEC playing FCS teams in November, as if that single thing should settle the entire argument.

I've never understood that argument. Does it make you any less of a team if you play an FCS team on November 15th versus September 15th? Alabama plays FSU, Wisconsin and UGA before September is over while most of the Big 10 will play 1, maybe 2 power 5 games in that time period, yet no one gripes about that.

Some of the rhetoric that has come from the Big 10 and its base over the last six months is like something from pro wrestling. Their premier programs won back-to-back titles and it has somehow emboldened the entire conference into thinking they are far superior to the SEC and that the SEC must bow down to its wishes. Luckily, Sankey and the coaches have not taken the bait and have maintained the higher ground.

I don't think we will go to 9 games. Instead, I think we will see a Big10/SEC challenge in the not too distant future.
 
I've never understood that argument.

That's because:
1) You're smart
2) The argument itself is dumb beyond words.

Does it make you any less of a team if you play an FCS team on November 15th versus September 15th? Alabama plays FSU, Wisconsin and UGA before September is over while most of the Big 10 will play 1, maybe 2 power 5 games in that time period, yet no one gripes about that.

It's the backdoor way to criticize another team's schedule without having the stones to just come right out and say the words, "Alabama doesn't play nobody. Ever." Because ALL of the evidence shows Alabama has played BY FAR more tough games - and won more of them - from 2008-20 than any team in history.


Some of the rhetoric that has come from the Big 10 and its base over the last six months is like something from pro wrestling.

Well, four B1G schools - Ohio State (Gym Jordan), Penn State (Sandusky), Sparty U (Nassar), and Steal Signal U (Bo covering for Dr. Anderson) - have all had sexual abuse scandals in the last 30 years while (now former) WWE head Vince McMahon has engaged in sex trafficking so there's that.

For many years the cry was "no SEC team has played up north on the road since Florida lost to Syracuse in 1991," the insinuation being that the reason the SEC teams won't play "up north" is that they're somehow chicken.

And for many other years, the SEC would lay a huge egg in the bowl games after a season of hype. I mean, so did the B1G (who once went 6-22 in the Rose Bowl from 1966-87), but it never mattered. But the moment the SEC began WINNING bowl games left and right, they pivoted to making the weather argument, which says, "SEC teams are afraid to play 'up north in December,'" a laughable objection coming from a conference of teams that plays their December championship game INDOORS and always has. And also laughable when you watch them cry real tears over getting to play in Pasadena on January 1 (avg annual temp 74 degrees on that day).



Just think of it like this: the average Big 10 apologist has the IQ of an Auburn fan, always carefully cutting out certain years to make themselves feel better.




Their premier programs won back-to-back titles

One with some of the most flagrant cheating ever, but you're correct.



and it has somehow emboldened the entire conference into thinking they are far superior to the SEC and that the SEC must bow down to its wishes. Luckily, Sankey and the coaches have not taken the bait and have maintained the higher ground.

I don't think we will go to 9 games. Instead, I think we will see a Big10/SEC challenge in the not too distant future.

It'll go on without me.

The day we started rewarding the mediocrity of two-loss teams in national championship playoffs is the day rearranging my sock drawer become a more enjoyable thing.

Ohio State MIGHT have been the best team in the country last year. They still had no damned business in even competing for much less winning a college football national championship.
 
People still complain about the SEC playing FCS teams in November, as if that single thing should settle the entire argument.

Enter Penn St...with Nevada, FIU and Villanova to kick off its season...maybe he should talk to them before throwing shade at the SEC
 
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cough...2007 LSU...cough

2007 LSU:
- won their conference championship (unlike Ohio St)
- beat 5 EOY ranked teams ON THE SCHEDULE (unlike Ohio St, who beat two)
- ended the year in the TOP TWO because every other P5 team had two losses except Kansas
- played in a conference that went 6-2 (excluding LSU) in bowls when they meant something

The two situations don't even compare accidentally.

The ONLY way these compare is if Ohio State finishes the year as the conference champion and is ranked in the top two. But the Buckeyes wouldn't even have qualified for a FOUR-TEAM playoff, much less the BCS.

I mean, we could then criticize 1960 Minnesota Gophers, who were 8-2 and national champions.
 
Enter Penn St...with Nevada, FIU and Villanova to kick off its season...maybe he should talk to them before throwing shade at the SEC

Or that time their representative made the playoffs playing HALF A SEASON in 2020.

I sure as hell don't recall Alabama playing any FCS teams that November, but they were playing twice as many games as the Buckeyes did.
 
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Or that time their representative made the playoffs playing HALF A SEASON in 2020.

I sure as hell don't recall Alabama playing any FCS teams that November, but they were playing twice as many games as the Buckeyes did.

2020 was a great year... Loved the all SEC schedule.

And I met my wife too, so that was awesome... And she is a partisan Tider who insisted we watch every single game.. So there is that!
 
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If Clemson, SMU, Penn St., or Notre Dame had played Bama's schedule last year, I seriously doubt any of them would have made the playoffs. We do not need a nine game SEC schedule in my opinion. Most of the SEC schedules are very tough. A few of them are brutal, and a few catch some major breaks. Even those are tougher than Big 10-18 schedules.
 
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If Clemson, SMU, Penn St., or Notre Dame had played Bama's schedule last year, I seriously doubt any of them would have made the playoffs. We do not need a nine game SEC schedule in my opinion. Most of the SEC schedules are very tough. A few of them are brutal, and a few catch some major breaks. Even those are tougher than Big 10-18 schedules.

but they play up north in November!
 
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I was probably more "into" the sport that year than any other year...because it was such a distraction. The pandemic had been going on for six months when CFB began, so it was a healthy diversion.

Well, except for all the mentions of "Covid-19" during the games.....

I went up to Wake Forest to watch my daughter play in the band a couple of times. It was exceedingly weird to be in a stadium that size with about 4k peeps! Their stadium is small though, only holds 32k. But dang is parking convenient... There was lots of room to stretch out as well.
 
If Clemson, SMU, Penn St., or Notre Dame had played Bama's schedule last year, I seriously doubt any of them would have made the playoffs. We do not need a nine game SEC schedule in my opinion. Most of the SEC schedules are very tough. A few of them are brutal, and a few catch some major breaks. Even those are tougher than Big 10-18 schedules.
Strength of schedule doesn't matter. Only the final record matters. Don't ask questions. Comply.
 
I used to agree that the SEC should play 9 conference games, but I no longer do, especially not with a 12-team playoff (or 16 when they expand again). Why bother when the committee proved last year that they will reward cupcake schedules with undeserving playoff berths?

In fact, I'm in favor of Alabama playing its 8 SEC games and then 4 teams like Florida Int., West. Illinois, Charlotte, and Maryland. All teams from the great Indiana's "playoff worthy" schedule, a team that lost to the only 2 good teams they played all year.

Why play a thought schedule when a weak one slides you into the playoffs over better teams?
 
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I've never understood that argument. Does it make you any less of a team if you play an FCS team on November 15th versus September 15th? Alabama plays FSU, Wisconsin and UGA before September is over while most of the Big 10 will play 1, maybe 2 power 5 games in that time period, yet no one gripes about that.

Some of the rhetoric that has come from the Big 10 and its base over the last six months is like something from pro wrestling. Their premier programs won back-to-back titles and it has somehow emboldened the entire conference into thinking they are far superior to the SEC and that the SEC must bow down to its wishes. Luckily, Sankey and the coaches have not taken the bait and have maintained the higher ground.

I don't think we will go to 9 games. Instead, I think we will see a Big10/SEC challenge in the not too distant future.

If Alabama or any other power four team quit playing these types of teams altogether the media would criticize us for trying to monetarily hurt the "little man". They would cry that these schools have to play the big boys to meet their budget to fund their program. So we're danged if we do, danged if we don't.
 
The four major conferences (SEC, B1G, ACC, B12) should all be REQUIRED to go to an 8-game conference schedule, and for out-of-conference, schedule one from each of the other three majors plus one of their choosing. That would ensure more competitive schedules across the board. It would also give us more big conference vs big conference data points by which to be able to more accurately gauge team and conference strength, while also preserving the small school payoff games that keep them afloat.
 
So we're danged if we do, danged if we don't.

Yep.

I used this one repeatedly because of something called 2017.

We opened with Florida State and beat them - and then the Noles turned out to be no good. But IF WE HAD PLAYED UCF AND BLOWN THEM OUT, the exact same fans who were touting UCF as national title contenders would have said, "Yeah, Alabama schedules weak sisters but wouldn't play Florida State!" Before that game, it was "this might be a playoff preview." Their QB gets hurt and it becomes, "well, FSU wasn't no good anyway!"

It's like we're supposed to know before the season how good someone is going to be. Even on games scheduled a decade ago, if we catch a team in a down year, we get zero credit for scheduling effort. That's one thing where I've defended Pac-12 teams (and others) - you cannot expect schedulers to be omniscient.
 
I wold rather see more top tier out of conference games.

The SEC isnt scared to play anyone.

Look at the out of conference games teams like Georgia and Alabama have played and scheduled.

Who has USC scheduled? Penn State?

enough arguing about who the better conference is or who deserves to be in the playoffs, play some of these games in the regular season.
USC plays Notre Dame every year. As for Penn State, of late no one, but they did play Auburn a few years ago.
 
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