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I’m going to do this ONE last time because a lot of people have said it for weeks now.

1) Don’t act like a complete donkey when you are told “you no longer work here, good luck on your future endeavors, and bye”. The second he accepted the LSU job there was zero chance he would ever be able to coach the next game. No sensible and respectable organization would ever allow a rival coach to coach potentially another month and the better part of two signing windows.

He should have just left, said thank you, and good luck. But lane had to extend the confrontation another 24 hours over it, and then threaten the Ole Miss staff about future opportunities. Seriously as we are speaking Ole Miss is having to promote analysts to on field positions because of that stunt.

2) He could’ve not trolled Ole Miss with his son wearing LSU swag during games once speculation. He then decided to use his dog’s twitter account to post crap that implied he was staying. He should’ve gone dark in this regard because you get hope and expectations up amongst fans and admins. This was the same crap he pulled when leaving Tennessee.

3) He put a deadline and slow played the hell out of it. It’s bad enough that it’s on the same day as “the game” and the iron bowl but are you seriously going to tell me that his mind wasn’t made up at 4 pm yesterday? What it amounted to was that Lane wanted this to be all about him and you had Marty Smith there all day with the caption “lane kiffin decision imminent”. This decision was made by Friday and Saturday was all about Lane soaking up a whole day of news that took away from rivalry Saturday. Had he announced earlier in the day then it wouldn’t have been as bad but he let this drag until Sunday morning and by then everyone knew his decision before any announcement.

More or less he should’ve not let this become a damn circus of his own making and thought more about the kids and fans involved. Because now whatever goodwill and “turn around” story is over. Everyone in the country now sees him like Al Davis saw him and now sees him like he was when he arrived at USC in 2010.

No one blames him for taking the job. They might disagree on the decision but taking the lsu job over ole Miss is understandable. How he did it is an entirely different matter.

I’m done explaining it. If you disagree then fine

Sounds like you got it all figured out. A lot of assumptions and insinuations. A little mind reading thrown in there as well. Impressive 👍🏻
 
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Bill Cowher pretty much lays it out perfectly


Yep. Ole Miss is not the first SEC team that Lane has quit on. That is what Lane did, he quit on Ole Miss and their players.

And yes, NCAA needs to do something about but will they? They have to ban school from talking to coaches who are still under contract, during the season.
 
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Yep. Ole Miss is not the first SEC time that Lane has quit on. That is what Lane did, he quit on Ole Miss and their players.

And yes, NCAA needs to do something about but will they? They have to ban school from talking to coaches who are still under contract, during the season.

So upgrading jobs is quitting on your team?

You do know this was Saban approved, right?

Wow, @ the spin.
 
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I haven't seen anything about this. JaMarcus Shephard Is to be Oregon St's new head coach. He's taking a few Bama people with him, Eron Hodges, Mitch Dahle, and Torrey Gill.

I think most are administrative positions going with him and lower level guys getting upgrades to his regime. It’s going to be tough job for him and I hope him the best because he is cool dude. I wish we could have kept him another year but I’m more surprised that he stayed 2 years as a Co OC.
 
So upgrading jobs is quitting on your team?

You do know this was Saban approved, right?

Wow, @ the spin.
Yes it is quitting on his team. The job would be available in the off-season. All Kiffin has to do was communicate with LSU through his agent that he was interested in the job and they would talk in the off-season. I guarantee you, LSU would have waited. LSU is a punk for pursing a coach during a playoff run, and Kiffin is a punk for allowing to happen in the first place. If you can not see it, then I do not know what else to say.

As for Saban, he is not infalliable to giving bad advice. I do believe Saban gave bad advice. It happens.
 
Yes it is quitting on his team. The job would be available in the off-season. LSU is a punk for pursing a coach during a playoff run, and Kiffin is a punk for allowing to happen in the first place. If you can not see it, then I do not know what else to say.

As for Saban, he is not infalliable to giving bad advice. I do believe Saban gave bad advice. It happens.

TBF I think LSU had 2 names in mind and they were kiffin and Sumrall. I doubt that they would’ve waited until Monday for Kiffin so I do think Kiffin had to decide this weekend.
 
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If Kiffin was the #1 guy for them, they would have waited.

I don’t think so but it’s possible. I don’t see Kiffin as a Saban or harbaugh rock star hire in which you wait to get the one guy you really need. Especially when you are risking an early signing day and massive February fallout if you wait. Kiffin is way too unpredictable in what he will and won’t do. Sumrall was never going to survive this weekend with Florida missing out on kiffin and Drink off their board. I think at that point LSU would’ve seriously be hoping an unexpected coach be available or would have settled with a guy that no one really wanted from the G5.

Then we have no idea what Sark will do either. So if Texas comes available a job at LSU is far less attractive. I think the plan was force Kiffin to respond and unload on Sumrall if he says no. I don’t think LSU was waiting another three weeks to find out what Kiffin wanted to do. But maybe they had assurances but then again trusting Kiffin with a secret deal with LSU is like trusting Michael Scott with a secret.
 
I think most are administrative positions going with him and lower level guys getting upgrades to his regime. It’s going to be tough job for him and I hope him the best because he is cool dude. I wish we could have kept him another year but I’m more surprised that he stayed 2 years as a Co OC.
I haven't seen anything about this. JaMarcus Shephard Is to be Oregon St's new head coach. He's taking a few Bama people with him, Eron Hodges, Mitch Dahle, and Torrey Gill.
Hodges is the one probably the best, he helps in recruiting, very good recruiter I've heard, but like has been said, upgrades for all these guys
 
He wanted to stay until after the playoffs, but wasn't allowed to.
Nah man he was hanging around to give ultimatums to coaches to leave with him and convince players to opt out of the CFBP and enter the Portal to go to LSU.

OM made him leave to keep him from burning their program to the ground.

Kiffin is a major piece of crap human.
 
Kiffin has created the illusion that he's the most in-demand coach in the country. He's created a ton of hype that he will now be taking out on the recruiting trail and into the portal when that time comes. He's the guy that said any publicity is good publicity while he was in Knoxville. How much of this entire saga was created purposely...only CLK knows.

Regardless, all eyes are now on Kiffin and LSU when they should be on those 12 brave teams trying to get in the playoffs. I expect he'll have the LSU roster fully stocked by the time spring gets here. He'll do his best to poach the rosters of his competition in the SEC. He'll have some success because he made sure the whole country knows how big their bag of cash is since it got widely publicized during this sordid affair.

Smart, in a sick way only Kiffin could appreciate.
 
Seems to me there should be a "Kiffin to LSU" thread cuz thissun has become an argument about his decision.

And for what it's worth, I personally never wanted CLK at Alabama as HC. And yeah, I would've stayed at Ole Miss. But values and priorities vary. And as Coach Saban stated, this isn't just a CLK conundrum, it's a CFB conundrum. Rules for coach contact and athlete signing windows need to NOT be a factor in these debacles.
 
But let's pretend LSU is not a better job, it really doesn't matter, how could Kiffin have handled it any better?
Not quit on his team in the middle of the season.

It's pretty simple. I'm unwilling to ignore his proven character flaws, which continue (publicly) to this day.

You are unwilling to judge him based on these flaws.

IOW, you're a kiffin fan, I'm not.

I'm just glad he's not Bama's problem.
 
How many more million do you need once you have your first couple of million? He doesn’t leave because of money, it’s because of ego! When it’s for ego, it’s a character issue. You tell your prospective boss that you will wait and fulfill your season before you will negotiate and leave. When you are done with your season, you leave. If I’m hiring him that tells me that I’m hiring someone who won’t quit.
Nowadays; having "a couple of million" in the bank is far from a "comfortable" retirement scenario. BIG difference between having $2 million; or $6 million; much less $10-20 million.
 
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So upgrading jobs is quitting on your team?

You do know this was Saban approved, right?

Wow, @ the spin.
He has quit in the most important part of the season, a place Ole Miss has never been.

It’s this simple: lame tells lsu if they want him they can wait till the Ole Miss season is over.

All this nonsense is manufactured by lame.
 
So upgrading jobs is quitting on your team?

You do know this was Saban approved, right?

Wow, @ the spin.

He could tell the truth instead of using "making a tough decision" as a cover for leverage

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"I'm sorry the NCAA has put us all on such a stupid calendar. If you want me to be the coach at LSU, you're gonna want me to finish what I start. That's what I'm gonna do for these players at Ole Miss. If you can make that work, I'd love to be your coach. If not, I understand and wish you the best."
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LSU & Kiffin are both convinced that they're the BEST (not "better" or "upgrades") ... thus they create false urgency that the majority of the sane world can spot and can't stand

When the Buccaneers or Cowboys come calling in 3-4 years, we already know how he'll handle it
 
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