Toggle sidebar

Cop in MO kills unarmed black teen

stlimprov said:
FWIW, in the context of the larger protests, the exact details of the shooting do and don't matter. Most folks didn't get out there because Michael Brown was killed. They got out there because Michael Brown's death felt like a straw that broke the camel's back.
History is littered with cases in which the characters in the event that proved the tipping point weren't ideal (especially in cases revolving around civil liberties). But I think it is important that we recognize that what is going on is about a lot of things on a lot of levels. We (as in: all of us trying to engage this on a constructive level) must not excuse problematic blemishes in one side of the argument to dismiss problematic blemishes on our own side of the argument. One thing that seems pretty clear is that in any human endeavor this complicated, there are flaws and blemishes all over the place.
I say this to point out that this seems to be one of those points where well intentioned individuals from both sides (I hesitate to even put it into a simple binary) can sit there and talk right past each other, each growing more and more frustrated that the other doesn't get it. I'll point to the 7 Habits of Highly Effective People: "First seek to understand, then to be understood."
Click to expand...
Yup, agreed. I referenced this earlier in the thread, pointing out Ferguson PD's history of abuse of power.
 
Did you catch the attorney and the doc contradict each other about the head wounds?

The attorney said the wound to the top of the head came out Brown's eye.

The doc said Brown was shot through the eye and the round exited his cheek and re-entered near the collar-bone.

You would think they would at least get their story straight for the press conference....
 
Last edited:
MISSIN'BAMA said:
Did you catch the attorney and the doc contradict each other about the head wounds?

The attorney said the wound to the top of the head came out Brown's eye.

The doc said Brown was shot through the eye and the round exited his cheek and re-entered near the collar-bone.

You would think they would at least get their story straight for the press conference....
Click to expand...

I had to think about how a round would enter the eye, exit the cheek and re-enter by the collar bone. The only way that I can see that happening is if the suspect is on his knees looking up at the police officer when he got shot. That could indicate a struggle, I just don't know.
 
Displaced Bama Fan said:
I had to think about how a round would enter the eye, exit the cheek and re-enter by the collar bone. The only way that I can see that happening is if the suspect is on his knees looking up at the police officer when he got shot. That could indicate a struggle, I just don't know.
Click to expand...

....or charging with head lowered...?
 
Displaced Bama Fan said:
I had to think about how a round would enter the eye, exit the cheek and re-enter by the collar bone. The only way that I can see that happening is if the suspect is on his knees looking up at the police officer when he got shot. That could indicate a struggle, I just don't know.
Click to expand...

Bones cause bullets to take strange paths in the human body. I assume the bullet was deflected by something in the orbital bone structure.
 
Gr8hope said:
Wasn't sure where to post this but found it interesting. Mapping the militarization of America, interactive:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...itary-equipment-map.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=1
Click to expand...


I just looked at Harford, Maryland since its the closest location listed on the map to where I am. The map says that department, which according to their website consists of 500 sworn and civilian personnel, has gotten three helicopters?

They have gotten one.
hcso.press_release.736.1.jpg


http://www.harfordsheriff.org/news/view/?id=719

I wonder about the validity of this map.
 
Yea it's crazy how he was shot "in the back" and now the autopsy refutes that and people act like it was never said. Just goes to show you how you just can't believe "eyewitnesses" in this day and time because it seems everyone has their own agenda.

And on the gunshots, this is not the movies where it is always one shot one kill all perfect center mass. When your adrenaline is pumping and you are shooting to kill you shoot the target until it is moving no more.

As for the rest of this story I just don't know what to think yet. The looters should be shot on site regardless. There is no question this kid just committed a strong armed robbery, but what happened after that who knows and we probably wont know until this ends up in court.
 
230kv_barehand said:
Yea it's crazy how he was shot "in the back" and now the autopsy refutes that and people act like it was never said. Just goes to show you how you just can't believe "eyewitnesses" in this day and time because it seems everyone has their own agenda.

And on the gunshots, this is not the movies where it is always one shot one kill all perfect center mass. When your adrenaline is pumping and you are shooting to kill you shoot the target until it is moving no more.

As for the rest of this story I just don't know what to think yet. The looters should be shot on site regardless. There is no question this kid just committed a strong armed robbery, but what happened after that who knows and we probably wont know until this ends up in court.
Click to expand...

This is actually the first I've heard of the "shot in the back" thing. I disagree that you keep on shooting until empty. Hands are raised and he's on the ground, no need to fire anymore.

I do agree with you on the looters, in a way.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

New Posts

Advertisement

Trending content

Advertisement

Latest threads

Top Bottom
Back