D.O.G.E (Department of Government Efficiency) II

[selmaborntidefan]

 

[Huckleberry]

 

[jthomas666]

And FTR, it SHOULD be difficult to change the Constitution.

Agreed. However, it shouldn't be practically impossible, which is where we are now.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Agreed. However, it shouldn't be practically impossible, which is where we are now.

I wonder if that's because a constitutional amendment ought to be something most people support - and that list isn't infinite.

I suspect if a amendment was proposed to grant the fedgov the authority to protect the environment it would have a decent chance of making it through.

 

[jthomas666]

I suspect if a amendment was proposed to grant the fedgov the authority to protect the environment it would have a decent chance of making it through.

Yes, conservatives across the nation will line up to grant the federal government additional regulatory power.

 

[JDCrimson]

Serious question, but i dont think citizens get to vote on federal constitutional amendments, just the state legislatures, right? Is it both chambers of the legislature or just the House chamber?

 

[crimsonaudio]

Yes, conservatives across the nation will line up to grant the federal government additional regulatory power.

I think most people understand the need for the EPA.

ATF? That's another matter.

But I suspect most like clean air and water.

 

[Bamaro]

I think most people understand the need for the EPA.

ATF? That's another matter.

But I suspect most like clean air and water.

If its in their own back yard.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Pete Hegseth’s email of “the five things he did this week” is going to be a wonder to behold.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Pete Hegseth’s email of “the five things he did this week” is going to be a wonder to behold.

Too bad we won't get to see it unless it gets leaked to the NYT.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Too bad we won't get to see it unless it gets leaked to the NYT.

Or if Waltz adds another journalist to another convo.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Or if Waltz adds another journalist to another convo.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Goldberg the same putz who linked Saddam Hussein to Al Qaeda?

 

[selmaborntidefan]

And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Goldberg the same putz who linked Saddam Hussein to Al Qaeda?

I don't know if I'd go that far.

The Great Terror | The New Yorker

Even if he was, one has to assume the Bush administration wasn't going to take the word of a reporter to justify a multi-trillion dollar war. The CIA, yes.

 

[cbi1972]

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Musk: So what's the downside?

 

[crimsonaudio]

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Spending money we don't have for this means that somehow it's become my kids' and grandkids' responsibility to fund these worldwide issues.

It sucks that people will suffer but goodness - since when is it the responsibility of US citizens to spend money we don't have to help people we don't know? Why is it US responsibility to single-handedly account for more than 40% of all humanitarian aid accounted for by the UN? If the stance is that not helping these people is wrong, I'd argue that forcing debt onto future generations is equally wrong.

Want to help people in other countries? Take up donations.

 

[Bodhisattva]

Spending money we don't have for this means that somehow it's become my kids' and grandkids' responsibility to fund these worldwide issues.

It sucks that people will suffer but goodness - since when is it the responsibility of US citizens to spend money we don't have to help people we don't know? Why is it US responsibility to single-handedly account for more than 40% of all humanitarian aid accounted for by the UN? If the stance is that not helping these people is wrong, I'd argue that forcing debt onto future generations is equally wrong.

Want to help people in other countries? Take up donations.

My wife will be leaving for Bolivia on Friday for another medical/surgical mission. She is taking two weeks of vacation time, paying for her own airfare, paying a fee to the organization, and taking several suitcases full of medicine and other supplies that she paid for. We have a lot of people in our circle of acquaintances that are decidedly politically left. Before every mission, Lan asks if anyone wants to donate supplies (or money for supplies) for the cause of providing life-saving surgery to the poorest of the poor. And this is not an expensive request. A trip to Costco for several bottles of OTC pain killers would be a big help. Despite the constant clamor that the less fortunate need to be helped in the abstract, not one time has anyone from that side of the political spectrum put their money where their mouth is. The loudest ones are always the quietist when it matters. Apparently, crying about some rich guy's tax burden is the equivalent of actually doing something to help. 🤷‍♂️

 

[cdub55]

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I can hear it now...

Wife: "You son of a...you gave me AIDS!!! How could you!!?"

Husband: "Babe, it isn't what you think. Trump got rid of USAID..."

 

[cdub55]

I think most people understand the need for the EPA.

ATF? That's another matter.

But I suspect most like clean air and water.

Eh...speak for yourself. I drink from a creek and vape...

 

[Huckleberry]

My wife will be leaving for Bolivia on Friday for another medical/surgical mission. She is taking two weeks of vacation time, paying for her own airfare, paying a fee to the organization, and taking several suitcases full of medicine and other supplies that she paid for. We have a lot of people in our circle of acquaintances that are decidedly politically left. Before every mission, Lan asks if anyone wants to donate supplies (or money for supplies) for the cause of providing life-saving surgery to the poorest of the poor. And this is not an expensive request. A trip to Costco for several bottles of OTC pain killers would be a big help. Despite the constant clamor that the less fortunate need to be helped in the abstract, not one time has anyone from that side of the political spectrum put their money where their mouth is. The loudest ones are always the quietist when it matters. Apparently, crying about some rich guy's tax burden is the equivalent of actually doing something to help. 🤷‍♂️

The charity that your family provides is indeed admirable. Less so is the outright accusation that those who are not conservative choose to speak rather than act when it comes to giving of their time and resources for the less fortunate. It’s been my experience that regardless of political views, economic status, religion, and any other number of ways that differentiate people, there are those who are generous and those who are selfish. Painting with such a broad brush based on anecdotal experience seems less than fair and I’m surprised to see it. Perhaps you’ve been unlucky in your choice of friends/acquaintances who don’t see things through the right wing prism. They certainly don’t sound like people with whom I’d want to associate.

 

[Huckleberry]

Spending money we don't have for this means that somehow it's become my kids' and grandkids' responsibility to fund these worldwide issues.

It sucks that people will suffer but goodness - since when is it the responsibility of US citizens to spend money we don't have to help people we don't know? Why is it US responsibility to single-handedly account for more than 40% of all humanitarian aid accounted for by the UN? If the stance is that not helping these people is wrong, I'd argue that forcing debt onto future generations is equally wrong.

Want to help people in other countries? Take up donations.

The conservative clamor for reducing spending will seem much more sincere when applied to all areas of the government, not just those that Republicans find distasteful to their political sensibilities.

Denying food and medicine to needy foreigners seems to be much easier than slowing the free-flowing spigot of defense spending and tax cuts, particularly when big donor corporations and billionaires are reaping the rewards.