Dark Brandon’s Policies Pt V

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they have probably also seen substantial increases in wages and job opportunities during the past few years, but we never hear about that part.
Yeah, I see lots of talk about jobs and growth in the news, but most people I know are pulling back their spending as there's less excess to spread around than there was a few years ago.

This isn't a direct indictment on Biden - the massive spending and shutdowns came at a delayed cost, and that bill is coming due. It's unavoidable now.
 
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Yeah, I see lots of talk about jobs and growth in the news, but most people I know are pulling back their spending as there's less excess to spread around than there was a few years ago.

This isn't a direct indictment on Biden - the massive spending and shutdowns came at a delayed cost, and that bill is coming due. It's unavoidable now.
i also think there are a lot of folks are seeing the downside of spending a lot of money on lifestyle items
 

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The underlying statement being that politics in the South is not serving Southerners well.
seems like lbj was on to something

“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”

― Lyndon B. Johnson
 

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I agree to a point, but the rate increases weren't really on the horizon just fa few years ago - pre-pandemic the talk was largely about deflating the dollar over time to retain its value. Once the fedgov dumped roughly like 9 trillion more dollars into circulation during the pandemic everyone's goose was cooked.

Keep in mind I'm not one of those people - we're on schedule to pay off our last remaining debt this year (house) despite my entire industry getting absolutely rocked by the shutdown mandates. We're quite financially conservative, but there are lots of folks out there wondering how they're gonna make it, even buying groceries is tough for some.

Yeah i get it, but again rates were in the low 2's at one point. They literally weren't going to go lower. I got in at 2.75% fixed. Based on conventional wisdom I would have needed to wait until it dropped to 1.75% to re-fi again. They were just never going that low on a 30yr. I wonder how many of those people went off and bought a new car when everything was over MSRP? Or paid astronomical prices for home renos?

I do get that things are expensive now. I mostly notice it on food, but TBH probably should track a budget better. Those $9.99/lb ribeyes I'd get at Publix pre pandemic are now double. Veggies and milk are way more expensive as well. It seems like fast food places have increased prices more than nicer restaurants, but maybe those examples are just more noticeable. A chicken biscuit at Chick-Fil-A cost what an entire breakfast combo used to cost. Want to get a burger and fries at Five guys it will cost you $20.

Something else I have notice is travel/vacationing is crazy high. Flights and vacation rentals are 30-40% higher than pre-pandemic.
 

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Since this is more a less a state of the economy thread, I'll put these here.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/08/economy/401k-hardship-withdrawals/index.html

More Americans are tapping their 401(k) accounts because of financial distress, according to Bank of America data released Tuesday.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/08/economy/us-household-credit-card-debt/index.html

Americans’ credit card debt levels have just notched a new, but undesirable, milestone: For the first time ever, they’ve surpassed $1 trillion, according to data released Tuesday by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
It would be nice if the government would stop fighting inflation with policies that cause more inflation.

It's analogous to the conversation my brothers and I had several years ago when they were in financial difficulty. They are personal trainers and own a boutique gym business. A problem is that the facility they rented was far too big, which meant they paid way too much in rent. Their business is also more seasonal, as most of their clients visit the area in the Winter - Spring Months.

Bodhi's proposed solution: spend less, earn more. They took my advice (eventually) and downsized their gym space instead of renting space that they never used. Rent cost went way down. They stopped using credit cards and eventually paid off that bad debt. They also picked up other jobs (house sitting for their clients when they were out of town for half the year, pet sitting, etc.) during their slow season. Their income went way up. They've turned around their financial fortunes.

The analogous government solution: get another credit card. Just keep deficit spending and kicking the can down the road and let it be another administration's and another generation's problem. Happens administration after administration. That's a constant. Another constant is that the tribal fan boys will look at the increasing deficits and claim the short term economic benefit is a successful government policy.
 
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Saw an article today the CBO released it national debt projection in 10 years = $50 trillion

Let that sink in...

We front loaded a 100yrs of inflation with covid stimulus...
 
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WASHINGTON — President Biden said during a fundraiser Thursday night that he regrets calling one of his major legislative achievements the Inflation Reduction Act — because the primary intent wasn’t actually to lower prices.

“I wish I hadn’t called it that because it has less to do with inflation than it has to do with providing alternatives that generate economic growth,” Biden said in Park City, Utah, noting that the bill primarily dealt with funding environmental programs.

Biden signed the law in August of last year, allowing the White House and congressional Democrats to say they were tackling decades-high inflation, which had peaked that June at an annual rate of 9.1% — even though both the Penn Wharton Budget Model and the Tax Foundation said at the time the bill would do nothing of the kind.
 

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Originally posted on Forbes, then "disappeared". Greed-flation
Yeah - there is NO DOUBT shipping/transportation costs have dropped drastically since Covid, and those were given as major contributors to the rising costs of food, clothing etc.
Let me know when you see the costs of these items drop at the register, in accordance with the drop in transportation costs.
I’d like hear the doublespeak gobblydgoop coming from retailers explaining why this isn’t happening. On second thought, I already know.
 

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Yeah - there is NO DOUBT shipping/transportation costs have dropped drastically since Covid, and those were given as major contributors to the rising costs of food, clothing etc.
Let me know when you see the costs of these items drop at the register, in accordance with the drop in transportation costs.
I’d like hear the doublespeak gobblydgoop coming from retailers explaining why this isn’t happening. On second thought, I already know.
Just google "Corporate Profits at all time high" or any such query. Look at the margins.
Apparently we have entered the Soylent phase of the economy where we have monopolies on all major suppliers/industries and there is no real competition to keep prices in check.
 

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A year after Democrats passed their sweeping $750 billion climate and health care law, it’s leading to a surge of clean energy projects and job creation, according to a recent Bank of America report.

More than 270 new clean energy projects have been announced since the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), with private investments totaling $132 billion, according to the report. These investments are expected to be accompanied by more than 86,000 jobs, including 50,000 jobs related to electric vehicles.

The Inflation Reduction Act “is not only working to strengthen supply chains but also to boost domestic manufacturing and create new jobs,” Bank of America said in the report.
 

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If things remain (relatively) the same 6-9 months from now economy- wise, Repugs will reveal how they practice brainwashing by repeating the same falsehoods over and over, knowing they’re lying, but they have crowed for years about the fiscal irresponsibility of the Dumbs while they themselves have become the poster children for it, hoping no one will notice if they just.keep.lying.
I remember when I was very young and i questioned comments made by a local politician (who eventually went to jail) and was told “all politicians lie.” I can say that I’ve never, in my life, found it “OK” or acceptable, and I never understood why others do.
 
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