DeBoer gets his first transfer ... and it's a QB. Austin Mack

[Bamabuzzard]

Alot of talk about JM vs. AM, but the real winner in the coaching change might just be TS.

If he's gotten over the idea he needs to compete with JM's longball and just be a QB tactician (as he looked in some of the late season fill in duty), he may have the best path to the starters role in 2024.

Before the CNS retirement announcement the discussion on the board was that his decision not to transfer probably signaled that CNS told him the QB position was up for grabs next year.

Now, with the new coach who favors a pocket passer, he's really in a good position to make a push, especially if Mack needs more time to develop.

My "gut" tells me either Ty Simpson or Lonergan will ultimately win the job. The more I watch CKD's offense, these two are probably more in a position to operate within its design than the others, as of now.

But, that doesn't take into account development of other players (specifically JM) from last year to this year or the growth of AM (UW transfer) maturity-wise and within the offense from last season until now.

 

[BamaMoon]

Milroe is, indeed, mentally and physically capable. Why would you think otherwise?

The burden of proof is on you to provide the facts for your belief JM is capable of mentally and physically adjusting to the new system.

It's just my opinion, but I thing his biggest struggle is on the mental side rather than the physical side.

I think people are afraid of being perceived as discriminatory to say JM struggles with the mental side of playing QB. But to say JM struggles with the mental side doesn't mean he's not smart. 99.9% of the smartest people in the world can't play QB either. It's not about being smart but about processing the information quickly enough to play the position.

Based on prior performances what makes you think he'll be able to pick up a new system that will require him to make faster decisions than he was able to make last year in a much simpler offense?

If he struggled with getting the ball out to receivers while taking over 3 seconds a play last year on average (I believe there's a stat for that and it was closer to almost 4 seconds) and Grubb QBs are expected to get it out in around 2 seconds where is the proof JM can do this?

 

[Scobaman]

To be fair, we know CNS wanted to run the ball with more success. And they did. So JM was not getting the number of pass plays as did Penix. And he also didn't get the pass protection from the OL as did Penix. I sure hope Huff fixes the OL issues. I think the new system does that.

Michigan ran some of the identical blitzes against UW that they ran against Bama. Against the same blitz, the Bama QB could not find the open receiver, and we did have open receivers, and took a sack, whereas the UW QB saw the blitz coming and dumped the ball off.

 

[teamplayer]

Michigan ran some of the identical blitzes against UW that they ran against Bama. Against the same blitz, the Bama QB could not find the open receiver, and we did have open receivers, and took a sack, whereas the UW QB saw the blitz coming and dumped the ball off.

Neither our offense nor Washington's offense did much against Michigan. We scored 20, and they only scored 13. However, that was clearly a pretty good defense that had a lot of very experienced guys. I've never checked Michigan's roster, but I'm guessing that they probably had several three or even four year starters out there.
I do understand your point that UW was better this year about hitting hot routes, though.

 

[Ledsteplin]

Michigan ran some of the identical blitzes against UW that they ran against Bama. Against the same blitz, the Bama QB could not find the open receiver, and we did have open receivers, and took a sack, whereas the UW QB saw the blitz coming and dumped the ball off.

And our OL schemes were different. We had OL issues all season. Seemed to improve a bit at the end.

 

[The Ols]

Sayin can be the next Mitch Mustain for all I know. There is no such thing as a sure thing with QB. Coach DeBoer watched Mack in practice all year running with Washington’s #2’s so gotta trust him on this. Looks like Mack was ranked #8 QB in his class so it isn’t like he is some scrub. I’m sure DeBoer is feeling the pressure to have immediate success as well. So it probably makes sense to have someone who knows the playbook when you are about to rip and replace the offensive system.

Lol…JT Daniel’s got any eligibility left?
Dig the post, love the MM reference!!!

 

[The Ols]

Just heard a Washington reporter on JOX discussing Mack. Said Mack has all the tools but is "as raw as the day is long" and if he played next year wasn't sure if that would be considered a good thing or not.

So a guy whose team lost a great player is now saying he isn’t that good of a player?
Shocking…

 

[jbrit]

Michigan ran some of the identical blitzes against UW that they ran against Bama. Against the same blitz, the Bama QB could not find the open receiver, and we did have open receivers, and took a sack, whereas the UW QB saw the blitz coming and dumped the ball off.

That's comparing a 1year starter to a guy that played 6 years. Stop

 

[BamaMark.]

So a guy whose team lost a great player is now saying he isn’t that good of a player?
Shocking…

Not exactly. He was very high on Mack, just noted he is very young and in his opinion not ready quite yet.

 

[The Ols]

That's comparing a 1year starter to a guy that played 6 years. Stop

Legit point…

 

[B1GTide]

So a guy whose team lost a great player is now saying he isn’t that good of a player?
Shocking…

Sounds like Alabama fans with respect Sayin.

 

[TitleWave]

My "gut" tells me either Ty Simpson or Lonergan will ultimately win the job. The more I watch CKD's offense, these two are probably more in a position to operate within its design than the others, as of now.

But, that doesn't take into account development of other players (specifically JM) from last year to this year or the growth of AM (UW transfer) maturity-wise and within the offense from last season until now.

Pardon any gut disruption, but any chance that a few microbes in there care to assess Gunnar Gundy for the job?

 

[The Ols]

Sounds like Alabama fans with respect Sayin.

I don’t think anyone’s saying he’s not great…I think it’s more belief/excitement in a new coach and system that he may have not fit?
*…and some sour grapes…😁

 

[bamaga]

Any truth to this??
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So this clown is saying that CKD passed on the best QB prospect in this cycle. A kid that NFL teams are already looking at. Ok. Makes sense .

 

[bamaga]

So a guy whose team lost a great player is now saying he isn’t that good of a player?
Shocking…

They said the same thing about CKD when he took the Alabama job.

 

[Ledsteplin]

Pardon any gut disruption, but any chance that a few microbes in there care to assess Gunnar Gundy for the job?

I laughed when I saw the fake Twitter account.

 

[RammerJammer14]

Legit point…

Not the whole picture though. Mac Jones was a first year starter too.

 

[RammerJammer14]

I don’t think anyone’s saying he’s not great…I think it’s more belief/excitement in a new coach and system that he may have not fit?
*…and some sour grapes…😁

There is no way Sayin didn’t “fit” the offense. And that reasoning makes even less sense when you look at the fact that Milroe wasn’t run off. It’s just 100% sour grapes and coping. We likely won’t know why Sayin left for a long time.

 

[The Ols]

Not the whole picture though. Mac Jones was a first year starter too.

jbrit said:
“That's comparing a 1year starter to a guy that played 6 years. Stop”

(Legit point…)

I think we’re agreeing?

 

[RammerJammer14]

jbrit said:
“That's comparing a 1year starter to a guy that played 6 years. Stop”

(Legit point…)

I think we’re agreeing?

Maybe? I was just adding on that just because a guy is a first year starter doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be expected to hit hot routes or throw quick passes. So in regards to jbrit’s comment, yes Penix had more starting experience, but that alone doesn’t account for Milroe’s issues.