Decline of the GOP - XVI

[some_al_fan]

Can we get a few trans cheerleaders to Bama to move discussion away from the football team?

 

[selmaborntidefan]

The value of divided government is predicated on the effectiveness of checks and balances.

Just to clarify, I'm NOT for "well we just need this here and that there to avoid tyranny."

It DOES assume a level of normalcy that is lacking in one particular individual. It's not enough for "well, since Team Blue is President, I hope Team Red has at least one house" or vice versa.

 

[Crimson1967]

I think there are seven or eight NFL teams with male cheerleaders.

I don't get it, but who gives a crap? Don't like it, don't look at it. *shrugs*

It's insane what people will get bent about...

I thought the MAGA crowd stopped watching the NFL during the kneeling fad. Speaking of which, is anyone still doing that? I haven’t read about it for a while.

I watch the NFL every week during the fall but can’t say I remember seeing many shots of the cheerleaders other than a few brief snippets coming back from a break. The Vikings guys will probably get some air time until people get bored and move on to the next crisis.

Now I’m hoping the Vikings win the Super Bowl. Would be even better if Kapernick suddenly signed with them and became the starting quarterback.

 

[JDCrimson]

Gaslight anything so the media will stop asking about the Epstein files...

I thought the MAGA crowd stopped watching the NFL during the kneeling fad. Speaking of which, is anyone still doing that? I haven’t read about it for a while.

I watch the NFL every week during the fall but can’t say I remember seeing many shots of the cheerleaders other than a few brief snippets coming back from a break. The Vikings guys will probably get some air time until people get bored and move on to the next crisis.

Now I’m hoping the Vikings win the Super Bowl. Would be even better if Kapernick suddenly signed with them and became the starting quarterback.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I thought the MAGA crowd stopped watching the NFL during the kneeling fad.

They AND the "I'm boycotting the NFL until Kap gets signed" crowd were twin sons of different mothers. Because reasons.

But I think they went back with it when their Junkyard Dog leader crashed the entire country with his flu bug.

Speaking of which, is anyone still doing that? I haven’t read about it for a while.

Last I heard was a few years ago. I think it was Gladys Knight was selected to do the anthem and was attacked online by many anonymous "woke" fans (or bots maybe) complaining she was supposed to be boycotting the NFL for their pet cause.

Then again, most of the sports teams are back to going to the White House for visits, too.

I watch the NFL every week during the fall but can’t say I remember seeing many shots of the cheerleaders other than a few brief snippets coming back from a break. The Vikings guys will probably get some air time until people get bored and move on to the next crisis.

The Vikings wanted the attention.
That's the reason they did it.
They got it.

Now I’m hoping the Vikings win the Super Bowl. Would be even better if Kapernick suddenly signed with them and became the starting quarterback.

Yes, because what every team needs is a 37-year-old mediocre QB and clubhouse cancer who hasn't faced a pass rush in nearly decade to lead them to the promised land.


For the record, I don't watch the NFL, but I don't watch much football anyway any longer. College was where it was, even when Alabama was bad (1997-2007), but they've taken almost everything unique about it away from us (at least the stuff I liked).

The NFL, for whatever reason I've just not watched much since around 2006 or so. Last year the only reason I watched the Super Bowl is because it was simulcast on (I think) Pluto TV. I didn't have WiFi or any networks.

 

[Tidewater]

For me, it is difficult for the GOP to "decline" in my estimation.
In 2000, Republicans had the White House, the House and Senate, and a budget surplus.*
And they blew all of those.
I jumped ship at that point.
They are all scum. I hold them all in utter contempt. A meteor hitting Washington would be a sign of divine blessing (other than the loss of the original copies of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution).


* To show a leopard doesn't change its spots, the GOP just did it again. Musk was talking during the campaign about the continuation of these United States if the budget is not brought under control. DOGE cut a bunch. Then the GOP went back and added the money back, except in GOP priorities, so the net effect was no improvement (actually it is worse, because they cut tax rates). Rinse, repeat. In a century, historians will be amazed at how lacking in foresight Americans were.

 

[Crimson1967]

Selma-I don’t seriously think Capernick will be in the NFL again. I just think it would be funny to watch everyone freak out over it.

Football is the only sport I still watch. And my passion for it has cooled considerably in recent years.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

For me, it is difficult for the GOP to "decline" in my estimation.
In 2000, Republicans had the White House, the House and Senate, and a budget surplus.*

Not to quibble over nits (even though I am LOL!)- they had a PROJECTED surplus.

But then it turned out "conservatives" like to load up on bacon as much as liberals do.

And then the war of choice with Iraq...

And they blew all of those.
I jumped ship at that point.
They are all scum. I hold them all in utter contempt. A meteor hitting Washington would be a sign of divine blessing (other than the loss of the original copies of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution).

But so are we.

We put them there.
They screw up.
We keep "our" favorites and demand others jettison theirs (e.g. Fenno).

We had a Republican President who honestly worked with a Democratic duality to push us towards balanced budgets - and he (and some conservatives willing to vote for tax hikes and spending cuts) got tossed in the next 2 years or so.

What was in it for Bush 41? Some kind words after he's dead from the same journalists who loathed him and blamed him for deficits while he was alive?

* To show a leopard doesn't change its spots, the GOP just did it again. Musk was talking during the campaign about the continuation of these United States if the budget is not brought under control. DOGE cut a bunch. Then the GOP went back and added the money back, except in GOP priorities, so the next effect was no improvement (actually it is worse, because they cut tax rates). Rinse, repeat. In a century, historians will be amazed at how lacking in foresight Americans were.

Here's what I find so funny:

I've always thought Trump bringing in an actual rich egomaniac was smokescreen. Elon Musk had credibility on money that no matter what he pretends, Trump KNOWS he doesn't have. Trump would get the Kool-Aid Klan vote no matter what, but he had to carve some support out of the center.

"I will balance the budget" from a guy with six business bankruptcies is right up there with that girl on the shuttle in "Airplane 2" telling every guy on the plane "I've never been with a man before."

But put Musk out there and folks can at least pretend to believe it.

 

[Its On A Slab]

Sheesh.

I never understood why people took offense to Kaepernick taking a knee.

Tim Tebow didn't even start it.

Tonya Harding showed 'em both how to do it properly.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I never understood why people took offense to Kaepernick taking a knee.

I thought both Kap and the "I'm boycotting the NFL" idiots were both full of the same substance.

He miraculously discovered a way to make money without getting hit on the field - conveniently just as his starting career was over.

Tonya Harding showed 'em both how to do it properly.

I bow to your greatness.

 

[Tidewater]

Sheesh.

I never understood why people took offense to Kaepernick taking a knee.

VFW on etiquette during the national anthem.
The NDAA of 2009, SECT. 595, Section 301(c)
"All other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart;"
He is not taking a knee. He was taking a knee during the national anthem to deliberately disrespect the country. (He was having a temper tantrum). His non-verbal message was, "If I'm not the starting QB, then this is a bad country." That is certainly his right. It is the right of others to disapprove of that message.

 

[Tidewater]

Not to quibble over nits (even though I am LOL!)- they had a PROJECTED surplus.

Budget suplus for FY 2000 was $236.2 billion. FY2001 (the last one before the GOP had White House, House and Senate) surplus was $128 billion (smaller than the previous year). Just before that FY was over we had September 11 and all bets were off but even without the GWOT, I'm sure the GOP would have blown it.

 

[92tide]

Sheesh.

I never understood why people took offense to Kaepernick taking a knee.

they took offense because they were told to

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Budget suplus for FY 2000 was $236.2 billion. FY2001 (the last one before the GOP had White House, House and Senate) surplus was $128 billion (smaller than the previous year). Just before that FY was over we had September 11 and all bets were off but even without the GWOT, I'm sure the GOP would have blown it.

oh, I have no doubt.

And I think the war of choice in Iraq is proof of it, too.

They might not have flushed $4T down the toilet, but they'd have blown it.

They're like postal employee Newman thinking the $7 they've theoretically saved on the Bottle Deposit scheme should be spent on a Snickers.

You know....exactly like the Democrats they loathe when they do the same thing.

 

[crimsonaudio]

they took offense because they were told to

Believe it or not there are patriotic Americans that don't have to be told to be offended by actions they find tasteless.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

VFW on etiquette during the national anthem.
The NDAA of 2009, SECT. 595, Section 301(c)
"All other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart;"
He is not taking a knee. He was taking a knee during the national anthem to deliberately disrespect the country. (He was having a temper tantrum). His non-verbal message was, "If I'm not the starting QB, then this is a bad country." That is certainly his right. It is the right of others to disapprove of that message.

I agree it was his message. His message was hijacked by some with a different agenda and twisted into something else...

 

[Bamaro]

He is not taking a knee. He was taking a knee during the national anthem to deliberately disrespect the country. (He was having a temper tantrum). His non-verbal message was, "If I'm not the starting QB, then this is a bad country." That is certainly his right. It is the right of others to disapprove of that message.

Still, nothing even closely comparable to storming the capitol and then being pardoned for doing it.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Still, nothing even closely comparable to storming the capitol and then being pardoned for doing it.

True.

1) That had not yet happened back in 2016, so it could hardly have been a point of reference then.
2) Some of us not only thought both were repugnant, we thought the storming of the Capitol was far worse.

Say what you want about Kap, he wasn't barging into the Capitol to take a big one on Pelosi's desk.
Or far worse.

I thought Kap was (at first) just getting some bad advice.

I thought the insurrectionists should have been mowed down with machine gun fire.

 

[arthurdawg]

Budget suplus for FY 2000 was $236.2 billion. FY2001 (the last one before the GOP had White House, House and Senate) surplus was $128 billion (smaller than the previous year). Just before that FY was over we had September 11 and all bets were off but even without the GWOT, I'm sure the GOP would have blown it.

I don't have time to go back and look it up, but the surplus was partially held up by the stock market and economy surging at the time and likely would have gone back to break even after the crash of 2001perhaps?

None the less, we could have installed further measures from there to control the deficit and debt much more easily than now..

 

[Tidewater]

Still, nothing even closely comparable to storming the capitol and then being pardoned for doing it.

I agree, but CK is no hero. He is a villain.