ESPN Poll - 85% of sports fans want a playoff

MasterShake

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I remember when the BCS started, it was about 50/50 the split between people who wanted a playoff vs. the BCS. Now that the BCS has showed year in and year out that it fails.

This ESPN poll, with over 270k respondents, 85% of sports fans throughout the world have overwhelmingly believe we need a playoff system.

How much more of this crap do we have to put up with? A playoff this year would be remarkable! Imagine 2 or 3 more weekends of top teams battling in a playoff. Sigh..........
 

Blanda's Shoes

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Scrap the BCS and go back to the old bowl system. The BCS has all the old flaws--plus some new ones--just more hype.

College football already has a playoff: the regular season. (just ask Michigan)
 

tidehawk

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Feb 9, 2001
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This season might just be the weight that tips the scales in the playoff favor. There are valid reasons to say that 5 or 6 teams deserve to play for the championship, and in the next sentence a case could be made against those same teams. Personally I have never seen such a wacky season, but with the 85/25 scholly rule and parity, it could be more seasons like this down the road. All valid reasons to start the proceass toward having a playoff.

I like the way I heard someone else say it, as far as voting for teams is concerned: Is this football or figure skating?
 

BamaBowtie

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Division II has a playoff and it seems to work better dog gone well. Why can't the powers at be recognize this? All the tired excuses agaisnt the playoff are put to rest every year in division II football.


Playoff PLEASE!
 

CrmznApklps

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Exactly Bowtie. I can't understand the excuses the president's make. Playoffs are being done and some really good academic schools, it does not have to adversly affect the players. Besides look at the length of the season for Basketball and Baseball. All that has to be done is set the BCS bowls as the environment for the playoffs wit the bowls rotating the national championship...sound familiar?
Cries for the lower tier bowls? They are irrelevant today, what's the difference? Make all conferences have a championship game and pit the conference champs against one another. What's the problem with that?:mad:

There is absolutely NO effective excuse for the mess we have today.
 

CrimsonNagus

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Jun 6, 2007
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College football already has a playoff: the regular season. (just ask Michigan)
I'm getting so tired of this excuse. If the regular season was a playoff then Hawaii would be playing for the NC because they are the only team that made it through your "season long playoff" undefeated. If that is also true then no 2 lose team should ever play for a NC but, it's going to happen this year.

It is also a lame excuse that a playoff would ruin rivalry games like The Iron Bowl. If the IB is a big deal when 2 mediocre Bama/Barn teams play then it will be a big deal even when a playoff is to follow.

"The regular seasons is a playoff" is just an old timer's excuse who doesn't want to see there traditional college football that they grew up with ever change. It's time to put the bowl games to bed and create some new college football traditions with a playoff.

If the bowl season is such a great idea, and makes the regular season so much more exciting, then why doesn't the NFL switch too it. Because it is a dumb why to determine a NC.

Make all conferences have a championship game and pit the conference champs against one another. What's the problem with that?
I've always liked this idea but, there are only 11 conferences so, you'd have to find a way to select some at large teams. They would also have to force the 4 remaining 1A Ind. to join a conference because there shouldn't be any special allowances made for Notre Dame's entry into a playoff like they get for the BCS.
 
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TommyMac

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Division II has a playoff and it seems to work better dog gone well. Why can't the powers at be recognize this? All the tired excuses agaisnt the playoff are put to rest every year in division II football.


Playoff PLEASE!
Try going to the message boards of those teams and report back to us how busy they are. They will probably have about as much activity as our Women's & Other forum.
 

BigAL413

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Sep 16, 2006
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That just shows that 85% of sports fans are misguided.

How on earth could you establish a "fair" playoff. If getting Number 1 and 2 are this diffiuclt - imagine how hard it would be to decide on Number 3 and 4(in a 4 team playoff) or Number 16(in a 16 team playoff). The records of teams becomes so much closer and more even the further down the ranks you get.

Unless you can set a playoff based on records (like the pros) a playoff is a waste of time - you are always going to be asking "What if?"

Not even college basketball's playoff is perfect. Ask the winner of the NIT how fair college basketball's system is. Or come and ask Tennessee Tech's men's basketball team who has won the conference regular season at least 3 times in the last 10 years, and just because they don't win their conf. tournament - No dancing. Ya, that's real fair.
 

Brady

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There will never be a perfect system but you can certainly find a less imperfect system :wink:. Put me down for the +1. Keep the current bowls, add one more that rotates between the current BCS bowl locations. You keep the arguments for who should be included in the top 4 which adds to the intrigue of college football.

The BCS was created to place #1 vs. #2 in a title game and that is what is does. As bad as it is it's better than the old bowl system with all the conference tie-ins.
 

CrmznApklps

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That just shows that 85% of sports fans are misguided.

How on earth could you establish a "fair" playoff. If getting Number 1 and 2 are this diffiuclt - imagine how hard it would be to decide on Number 3 and 4(in a 4 team playoff) or Number 16(in a 16 team playoff). The records of teams becomes so much closer and more even the further down the ranks you get.
I'd much rather have a "debate-able" #24 or whatever than #1. At that point, my comment would be to play harder and make it into the top 25. Do you really hear anyone debating about who is not in the top 25?
 

CrmznApklps

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I've always liked this idea but, there are only 11 conferences so, you'd have to find a way to select some at large teams. They would also have to force the 4 remaining 1A Ind. to join a conference because there shouldn't be any special allowances made for Notre Dame's entry into a playoff like they get for the BCS.
You could throw in the runner-ups from the best conferences (top to bottom) based on out of conference D1A( I know ...whatever its called now) wins.

A conference champion, and runner-up system should dispel the "playoffs destroy the purpose of the regular season" criticisms
 
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BigAL413

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I'd much rather have a "debate-able" #24 or whatever than #1. At that point, my comment would be to play harder and make it into the top 25. Do you really hear anyone debating about who is not in the top 25?
As it stands right now, you have maybe 4 or 5 teams arguing that they deserve to be in the Championship game. If you open it up to a 4 or 16 team playoff you will have at minimum 15 - 20 teams complaining they didn't get their fair shot at the title.

In either system you will argue at the end how deserving the champion is. I would just rather that arguing be limited to a smaller number. We have that right now.
 

smokies1

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Let the BCS Conference champions duke it out in a playoff, it's simple. Don't win your conference you're not in.

Other bowls would still be around and would mean the same thing they do now.

ND could get with the program and join a BCS Conference or have fun in the weed eater bowl
 

CapstoneTider

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I listened to ESPN radio on the way back from St. Simons Island Ga. during Thanksgiving and for six hours they would mention multiple times an hour about the need for a playoff. My guess is that this type of lobbying has swayed a lot of fans opinions because ESPN is good at getting their opinion out.

No playoff.
 

jps1983

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just give me a four team playoff. Then I will be happy...
Yep. I think a plus 1 system would be perfect. If not, go back to 11 regular season games, no conference championship games and do a 12 team playoff like the NFL where the top 4 BCS teams get bye's.
 

RollTider

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This is something I wrote last year leading up to the BCS (when I was traveling a lot for work and my flights tended to always be delayed). I know it's long, so I aplogize...but this is my crack at a solution

I've never liked the idea of a playoff in college football. Any time the subject is brought up, I just have the fear that some 9-3 team finishing third in its conference would get hot during the month of December and win three or four games in a row against teams that had been consistently better all year and be your National Champion…with three losses. Some people would welcome this change, but to me, the beauty of college football has been just how much every game counts. You can't sleepwalk through September if you want to be relevant in January.

Lately, I've had a change of heart. I can't handle the boondoggle of the BCS, waiting on pins and needs on Sunday to see whether a computer gave Florida or Ohio State a better score. Also, I've heard some great points on how college football would OWN the month of December. If you think "March Madness" is fun, "December Delirium" would blow it out of the water. It would be unreal. Imagine the unbelievable matchups we'd have EVERY December. This year, in the system described below, we would have an eight team tournament between Ohio State, Florida, USC, Oklahoma, Louisville, Wake Forest (Yikes. O.K., assume that the ACC will usually supply us with Florida State, Miami, or Virginia Tech), Notre Dame, and Boise State. You don't think this would own the ratings for December? Can you imagine the Christmas parties watching this tournament?

If we're going to have a playoff in college football, to me this is how it should work. Ladies and Gentlemen, your Tournament of Champions:

• First, each of the 6 BCS conference MUST have a championship game. It doesn't make sense to have some teams playing championship games three weeks after another conference's last games. This probably means that the Big 10 picks up a team while the Pac 10 picks up 2 and the Big East picks up four to give each conference twelve teams. Fine. Let's take a moment to welcome San Jose State and Utah to the Pac 10, Boise State to the Big 10, and Marshall, Memphis, UCF, and MTSU to the Big East. Of course, this will give the Big East 427 teams for basketball, so a better solution might be to drop the 12 team requirement.

• The 6 BCS conference winners and 2 Wildcard teams NOT from BCS Conferences take part in an 8 team tournament. I think 8 is as big as we should go with this. If you can't finish in one of the top 8 spots, you really have no argument for having a chance to play in the Championship game anyway. Why can the wildcards not be from BCS conferences? If you don't win your own conference, there is no way you should have a chance to play for the National Championship. This was my biggest problem with an Ohio State/Michigan rematch. Do we really want a National Champion who finished second in its conference? Limiting the tournament to conference champions maintains the "every game matters" feel of the regular season. Yes, this means that we're going to have to let in Notre Dame just about any year they are 10-2 or better and we'll have to let in a Boise State or a TCU. But, on the bright side, this will leave the possibility of a Cinderella team, and at least it would be a team that probably won its conference or finished 12-0 or 11-1.

• The Championship game rotates between the Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, and Fiesta Bowl (with apologies to our friends in Miami). The semifinal games are the other two of these three. The first round games take place in the Orange Bowl, Cotton Bowl, Gator Bowl, and Holiday Bowl (Apologies to Capital One and Outback, but they can't all be in Florida).

• The playoffs begin on the Saturday three weeks before New Years Day. In other words, we want the first two rounds on Saturdays and the Championship on New Year's Day where it belongs, allowing at least a week between the Saturday of the semifinals and the Championship. This means that the tournament starts usually two, sometimes three weeks after the conference championship games, which is better than Ohio State's two month break.

• Your "bowl-eligible" not making it into the Tournament of Champions (has a nice ring to it) are still playing in the other bowl games. These bowls are played on weeknights or on Saturdays before the tournament games. You could even keep some of them on New Years Day, as long as you play them before the Championship Game. The Peach Bowl, Liberty Bowl, Aloha Bowl, etc. aren't getting left out. In reality, their bowl games mean every bit as much in this system as they do now, which is basically nothing. In fact, these bowls have the chance to get some better teams because three previous non-BCS bowls are now being used in the playoffs. Everyone is a winner.

Unfortunately, we're probably a long way from seeing something like this. In reality, the BCS will "tweak" something next year in the computers to fix the problem that they had the year before, which will screw something up for next year, which they'll tweak again (putting us back to where we were three years ago) until the cycle starts over. Therefore, since nothing is changing, enjoy waiting on a computer to tell us which two teams will play in the Championship game on January 27th…
 

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