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For those suggesting this isn't a good hire by A&M, think again: he went 83-23 at FSU (.783) and if you remove this weird season, his overall record there is 78-17 (.821). He won his division four times, won the ACC three times, and won a NC.

He's one of the top five most successful coaches in CFB...
 
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crimsonaudio said:
For those suggesting this isn't a good hire by A&M, think again: he went 83-23 at FSU (.783) and if you remove this weird season, his overall record there is 78-17 (.821). He won his division four times, won the ACC three times, and won a NC.

He's one of the top five most successful coaches in CFB...
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He is a good coach, but I will take a wait and see approach as to most new coaches. More about fit than pure coaching abilities. I want to see if they give him a free hand and full control of program. Mullen is good ,but again how does he fit as HC at UF. I know he was there before but not as HC. How the coach fits the school is paramount to me. As good as the hires have been only time will tell how it really goes.
 
Did you ever think about 20 years ago or so that a very good coach would leave Florida State for Texas A&M? I certainly didn't.

I think he'll do pretty well there but I also believe that the same problems he had with FSU, he will eventually have at aTm. Texans like control. Should be interesting. I wish him the best.
 
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RT27 said:
He is a good coach, but I will take a wait and see approach as to most new coaches. .
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I don't know why? This isn't exactly a highly successful coordinator or lower tier HC taking over a major program.


RT27 said:
More about fit than pure coaching abilities. .
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This term has been going around lately, and I still don't think it applies here since aTm is going to give him everything he wants.

RT27 said:
I want to see if they give him a free hand and full control of program.
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Do you really think that wasn't the part of the deal?

RT27 said:
Mullen is good ,but again how does he fit as HC at UF. .
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better than Mac and Mush. Mullen knows how to recruit and how to find a qb.

RT27 said:
How the coach fits the school is paramount to me.
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I bet 20 years ago we would be saying " CNS would never be a fit at Bama". I think the fit argument is more to justify why Mac got canned 3 years in. The truth is that if you win then you "fit".

RT27 said:
As good as the hires have been only time will tell how it really goes.
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Jimbo is a top 5 coach/ recruiter in college football, has probably the 1st or 2nd best facilities in the SEC, has the wealth of Texas talent to himself.

Mullen is the best coach to ever coach at MSU, has recruited great college qbs, and has put two in the NFL.

They are excellent hires.
 
Don't really see this one working out unless TAMU fans are happier with 8-4 and 9-3 records when they come from Jimbo. He's been kind of the ultimate less with more guy in college football for the past several years: good win-loss record, but when you consider that his teams were absolutely loaded with talent and were playing... well, very unloaded competition for the most part, the win-loss record doesn't really look like much.

Of course, have a couple things go right and momentum can build and even an ok coach can create something successful, so you never know. I also think there's some potential for this to generate buzz and some initial success just based purely on the fact that this is a mega-contract and a coach who's won a championship; in the end though, I just don't think he has the coaching chops to sustain that.
 
theballguy said:
Did you ever think about 20 years ago or so that a very good coach would leave Florida State for Texas A&M? I certainly didn't.
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facilities are much better at aTm than FSU, and the boosters will pay for any upgrade he wants.

theballguy said:
but I also believe that the same problems he had with FSU, .
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aTm fans are nowhere near as jerkish as nole fans. I think another reason he wanted out was the personal stuff that went on.
 
Jimbo to TAMU makes some sense. I hear his son gets treatment for his rare disease in Houston. Jimbo would probably not have had much more success at FSU anyway even if they'd still want him because it looks like Dabo may have a dynasty at Clemson so FSU would have to settle for second best. It's good for him to leave while his coaching stock is still high. Another bad season at FSU and teams may not pay him the money he wants. He may also figure by the time he gets TAMU program into contention, which could take a few years that Coach Saban may retire and then he has the chance to win the SECw.
 
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81usaf92 said:
I don't know why? This isn't exactly a highly successful coordinator or lower tier HC taking over a major program.



This term has been going around lately, and I still don't think it applies here since aTm is going to give him everything he wants.



Do you really think that wasn't the part of the deal?



better than Mac and Mush. Mullen knows how to recruit and how to find a qb.



I bet 20 years ago we would be saying " CNS would never be a fit at Bama". I think the fit argument is more to justify why Mac got canned 3 years in. The truth is that if you win then you "fit".



Jimbo is a top 5 coach/ recruiter in college football, has probably the 1st or 2nd best facilities in the SEC, has the wealth of Texas talent to himself.

Mullen is the best coach to ever coach at MSU, has recruited great college qbs, and has put two in the NFL.

They are excellent hires.
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I have seen good coaches get hired and still fail at other schools. Again nothing is a sure fire winner no matter how good the coach. Are they great hires, no doubt, but until you win nothing is a sure thing. I am no expert but all schools have their own obstacles, they may end up being big time winners. Again I do not count my chickens before they hatch. Remember as good as they are , the SEC coaches still have to face Saban. He has processed more coaches than Kraft has processed cheese. These guys may raise expectations to the point SEC title is what they expect, many teams can get the high expectations then implode when not met on a regular basis. It ain't over til its over.
 
I'll have to say as an FSU alumnus and the fact that they are number 2 or 3 on my fan list, that I thought at first that CJF was the worst hire when he was hired after Coach Bowden. I was wrong. But, CJF's problems were more off the field for him, than on and I can see where he would want to move away from Tallahassee. I think he saw this as a opportunity for a new start and the conditions were right.

1. His highly publicized divorce scandal from his wife that was finalized about 2 years ago.

2. His son has a rare blood disorder that can probably be treated locally in the TAMU area. The closest thing to a really good hospital in the Tallahassee area is probably at Shands Hospital in Gainesville. Shands is one of the best in the nation IMHO. (Saved my Mom's life in 2002 when she had a stroke and they did some brain surgery to remove a "port wine birthmark" off of her brain.

3. FSU fans are some of the worst. They are fickle and spoiled with no reason to be. As far as I'm concerned they have always wanted to be Alabama.

4. Facilities at FSU are no longer on the A-list and falling apart.

Good Luck Coach Fisher!
 
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RT27 said:
I have seen good coaches get hired and still fail at other schools. .
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Curious. Name some. And please keep Howard out of this or else Selma is going to come after you. ;)

RT27 said:
Again nothing is a sure fire winner no matter how good the coach. Are they great hires, no doubt, but until you win nothing is a sure thing.
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uhhh....

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RT27 said:
These guys may raise expectations to​o the
point SEC title is what they expect, many teams can get the high expectations
then implode when not met on a regular basis. It ain't over til its over. .
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There is a huge difference from firing a proven coach and replacing him with a coordinator or weird offense guy, and firing an average coach and replacing him with a proven one.



 
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This hire makes me nervous. There is some baggage there, and since Sumlin's team has his fingerprints all over it, there will be an adjustment period. But, Jimbo is dangerous. I just hope that somehow Nick Saban can slowly suffocate him in the same way he did to LSU and Les Miles.
 
81usaf92 said:
Meh. I’ve heard all these things about Texas my whole life but when you look at it ND has more national championships than the whole state combined. I think they need something new. They need a national recruiter like Jimbo
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Well, my comment had more to do with the High School Football aspects more so then the College aspects. Recruiting High School Football players from Texas is a lot more complicated then it is most places. Its not as simple as sending out a flyer to a player saying we want you. Texas is a massive state with multiple classifications. You have to know each classifications and their respective coaches to be successful on the recruiting trail in Texas.
 
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