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[crimsonaudio]

One of my problems with the film industry is the unbelievable lack of creativity.
The 7th SW movie was really just a remake of the initial film (episode 4).
Jurassic Park was a remake with the same general plot, just bigger and scarier dinosaurs.
So many films are like that. Just a rehash of the same old ideas. It is kind of pathetic for people who sell themselves as being creative.

It's because bean-counters, not creatives, write the checks.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

It's because bean-counters, not creatives, write the checks.

Well there is the problem, they are counting beans instead of money.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

He's gonna need a helmet with all the backpedaling:
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Well, at least he tried. Most won’t even attempt that; they just double-down on their stupidity.

 

[75thru79]

It's because bean-counters, not creatives, write the checks.

The film industry is becoming more or less an industry, not a collective of creators with a mission to entertain us or cause us to reflect on our lives. All they care about is pumping out guaranteed ticket sales movies that are just mindless, banal moments on celluloid.

 

[crimsonaudio]

The film industry is becoming more or less an industry, not a collective of creators with a mission to entertain us or cause us to reflect on our lives. All they care about is pumping out guaranteed ticket sales movies that are just mindless, banal moments on celluloid.

That's literally all of the entertainment industry, and it's been moving that way for decades now. We've not really seen innovative creators widely encouraged / supported in the film or music industries for 20+ years now.

 

[Its On A Slab]

The film industry is becoming more or less an industry, not a collective of creators with a mission to entertain us or cause us to reflect on our lives. All they care about is pumping out guaranteed ticket sales movies that are just mindless, banal moments on celluloid.

And they succeed.

"I don't see them. I tried, you know? But that's not cinema. Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks. It isn’t the cinema of human beings trying to convey emotional, psychological experiences to another human being.' - Martin Scorsese.

He's talking about Marvel movies, but you can pretty much apply it to most of the crap that is shown in cinemas today. Hardly any really "films" are made. And when they do show up, I make sure to see them.

Killers Of The Flower Moon was an awesome film, out last year.

I enjoyed Oppenheimer. Some didn't like it, but at least it was an honest attempt at good cinema.

But on any given weekend otherwise, I can pull up the showings at the local 24-plex and not find a single movie that I'm remotely interested in seeing. If it's not superhero stuff, it's bad CGI stuff with furry animals that talk and tell stupid jokes, geared to 4 year olds.

I just saw Number 24 on Netflix. Highly recommended.

 

[81usaf92]

One of my problems with the film industry is the unbelievable lack of creativity.
The 7th SW movie was really just a remake of the initial film (episode 4).
Jurassic Park was a remake with the same general plot, just bigger and scarier dinosaurs.
So many films are like that. Just a rehash of the same old ideas. It is kind of pathetic for people who sell themselves as being creative.

Generally I agree but the new Nosferatu actually has me saying “if remakes mostly stay true to the plot threads and doesn’t crap on the existing IP then they can work very well”.

I think some movies need to be modernized. But most don’t. It just really rewards a culture of lazy test answer stealers.

 

[81usaf92]

That's literally all of the entertainment industry, and it's been moving that way for decades now. We've not really seen innovative creators widely encouraged / supported in the film or music industries for 20+ years now.

IDK about that. People like Peter Berg, Michael Flanningan, Scorcesi, and Christopher Nolan pretty much make “can’t miss blockbusters and films”. But yeah most directors are slaves to the production company

 

[crimsonaudio]

IDK about that. People like Peter Berg, Michael Flanningan, Scorcesi, and Christopher Nolan pretty much make “can’t miss blockbusters and films”. But yeah most directors are slaves to the production company

I said 'widely' for a reason. The bean-counters will always spend money on the 'guaranteed' filmmakers and musicians. Taking a risk on developing upcoming talent is where they're risk averse and largely why most commercial art is so derivative today.

 

[Crimson1967]

I attend a movie once a year at the most. I looked at the list of Oscar nominees and most I had never heard of.

 

[dayhiker]

Yeah, I think this has been a case study in how not to update studio intellectual property.

I've been reading the talks of Charlie Munger from Poor Charlie's Almanac. In one of them he's doing an analysis of how Coke became Coke. It was primarily about protecting and building the trademark. Maybe the Disney execs should give it a read.

 

[Tidewater]

Generally I agree but the new Nosferatu actually has me saying “if remakes mostly stay true to the plot threads and doesn’t crap on the existing IP then they can work very well”.

I think some movies need to be modernized. But most don’t. It just really rewards a culture of lazy test answer stealers.

I agree. The original Nosferatu was done so long ago and film technology has advanced so much that a good remake of this film worked.
Too frequently, studios just make films with the creativity of Flintstones: Viva Rock-Vegas.

 

[Tidewater]

I enjoyed Oppenheimer. Some didn't like it, but at least it was an honest attempt at good cinema.

I enjoyed Oppenheimer, even with the director's quirks.

 

[Tidewater]

And to get back to the opening post, I found the video showing the funny responses to the video and the song accompanying to be creative and funny.

 

[81usaf92]

I enjoyed Oppenheimer, even with the director's quirks.

Seeing Gary Oldman as Truman was an epic cameo. I think that whole scene was great and it really makes you think “was Oppenheimer the man that ended the war or was it Truman”

 

[Its On A Slab]

I enjoyed Oppenheimer, even with the director's quirks.

I was a little confused at Lewis Strauss (Robert Downey Jr's character) and his prominent role in the film, until the very end of the movie, when it was revealed how much that guy hated Oppenheimer and tried to ruin him.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

I attend a movie once a year at the most. I looked at the list of Oscar nominees and most I had never heard of.

But many of those nominees are the exact thing many posters in this thread are asking for; the high art, more original, more creative films.

I agree and disagree with the major sentiment of this thread. Yes, the major studio players are more worried about making cash-cow movies, the next big franchise flick, the next billion-dollar grosser. So they have turn towards more attempts at widespread appeal popcorn flicks. That's because, especially since COVID, these are the only movies the average audience show up to see.

But original, high art, more creative (whatever you want to call it) films are still being made, many of them each and every year. You just have to look to the indie space and foreign market. If this is what you like, then you have to seek them out in local arthouse theaters or wait for home video/streaming options. No, AMC is not going to fill a megaplex up with these movies because they don't make money. It is still a business and "Hollywood" has always been in the business of making money.

It's always funny when I see people talking about how great movies were decades ago or in the good ole days. Duck Soup was blasted by critics and audiences at the time of its release and bobed at the box office. Now, decades later, it is on almost every all-time greatest lists. That's just one of many, many, many examples over the entire history of the movies. Another... the recent Star Wars films were brought up. It's fine if you don't like them but I have enjoyed most SW related content that Disney has released (accept the Bobba Fett, Obi-wan and Acolyte series). I also remember how much hated was thrown at Episode 1 when it was released in 1999 but, now many Star Wars fans say it is not that bad. My point, Hollywood has always made low brow, bad movies to try and make a buck. Decades later we mainly remember the goods ones and not the bad so our view of that time period changes.

 

[81usaf92]

But many of those nominees are the exact thing many posters in this thread are asking for; the high art, more original, more creative films.

I agree and disagree with the major sentiment of this thread. Yes, the major studio players are more worried about making cash-cow movies, the next big franchise flick, the next billion-dollar grosser. So they have turn towards more attempts at widespread appeal popcorn flicks. That's because, especially since COVID, these are the only movies the average audience show up to see.

But original, high art, more creative (whatever you want to call it) films are still being made, many of them each and every year. You just have to look to the indie space and foreign market. If this is what you like, then you have to seek them out in local arthouse theaters or wait for home video/streaming options. No, AMC is not going to fill a megaplex up with these movies because they don't make money. It is still a business and "Hollywood" has always been in the business of making money.

It's always funny when I see people talking about how great movies were decades ago or in the good ole days. Duck Soup was blasted by critics and audiences at the time of its release and bobed at the box office. Now, decades later, it is on almost every all-time greatest lists. That's just one of many, many, many examples over the entire history of the movies. Another... the recent Star Wars films were brought up. It's fine if you don't like them but I have enjoyed most SW related content that Disney has released (accept the Bobba Fett, Obi-wan and Acolyte series). I also remember how much hated was thrown at Episode 1 when it was released in 1999 but, now many Star Wars fans say it is not that bad. My point, Hollywood has always made low brow, bad movies to try and make a buck. Decades later we mainly remember the goods ones and not the bad so our view of that time period changes.

I don’t think the Disney era of SW will ever be accepted. It’s because they took a very mean, discombobulated, and political approach towards the fans. The Acolyte may have been the worst offender of them all. The story of Luke Skywalker and his band of outcasts was what got everyone into Star Wars, and basically from day 1 Disney has pretty much hired every controversial director and writer to tear down that story in whatever way they can. The reason the prequels are getting a positive reflection now is because 1) The clone wars show really made up for them and 2) It really didn’t insult the fans.

Star Wars is probably dead at this point. Yeah it could probably have an unexpected win like Andor but ultimately i think the Acolyte killed whatever good faith Andor provided.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

My #1 film of the decade so far is ‘Everything Everywhere All at Once’.

It’s one of the most creative films I’ve ever seen and it pushes it limits to the max and then some.

But it does have ‘everything’.

It’s Drama, Comedy, Action, Sci-Fi, Fantasy… It’s serious and silly with just tons of heart and performances are amazing from the entire cast.

It stands out so much because of the dearth of creativity in Hollywood in general.

But I highly recommend it to anyone tired of the same old stuff.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

I need to give "Everything" another chance. It's not that I didn't like it, just that I started it one evening and then life got in the way and I never finished it. I enjoyed what I had seen so far, which was about 30 minutes or so.

It would be hard for me to name a best movie of the decade so far. There is a lot I have really enjoyed.

Knives Out
The Banshees of Inisherin
Ford v Ferrari
The Holdovers
Top Gun: Maverick
Wicked: Part 1

I'm a sucker for James Cameron and Steven Spielberg. I loved Avatar: The Way of Water more than the first one. I also thought Spielberg's version of West Side Story was an improvement over the already great original from Robert Wise. I think the orchestrations, cinematography, direction, singing and choreography were all better in Spielberg's. He also did a better job at capturing the feel of the upper west side in Manhattan. This is all my opinion of course.

Anyway, that is a taste of what I have really enjoyed in the 2020s so far.