Ghislaine Maxwell Receives 20 Years for Aiding Epstein in Sex Trafficking

[Huckleberry]

I suppose anything is possible, but I think we both know that if they had proof of Trump getting freaky on Epstein Island, it would have been "accidentally leaked" years ago. They have tried everything else to stop him.

It all depends on who else is involved. None of them are going to play Jenga with that stack of blocks.

I think very powerful people of all political and business persuasions are guilty. They'll go to great lengths to keep their deeds a secret.

 

[Crimson1967]

Gene Hackman knew the truth and Clinton had him killed.

 

[Bamaro]

What's the difference? One came into office filthy rich and the other exited office filthy rich.

None really.

 

[mdb-tpet]

None really.

One abused his power for sexual favors. The other is abusing nearly everyone for wealth and power, while tearing down norm after norm of our governance. Literally, nothing we want will be done any more unless the President wants it, which is not how our government should be run. It was bad before due to the influence of money, now money is the only thing that matters.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Epstein's accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell is ready to reveal client list

'Despite the rumors, Ghislaine was never offered any kind of plea deal. She would be more than happy to sit before Congress and tell her story,' sources tell the Daily Mail.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Now a source said: 'Despite the rumors, Ghislaine was never offered any kind of plea deal. She would be more than happy to sit before Congress and tell her story.

'No-one from the government has ever asked her to share what she knows. She remains the only person to be jailed in connection to Epstein and she would welcome the chance to tell the American public the truth.'

What that 'truth' is remains to be seen. Maxwell was convicted in 2022 over her role in a scheme to sexual exploit and abuse multiple minor girls with Epstein over the course of a decade.

She apparently learned nothing from what happened to Epstein. Nevertheless, I'd be interested in what she has to say.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I'm just wondering when folks figure out that this is the exact same tactic that Roy Cohn used with Joseph McCarthy. And you remember who Trump's first lawyer and mentor was, right?

- make an allegation
- claim to have a document that proves your assertions, a list (Commies, creeps, whatever)
- insist you can't reveal it now for fear of retribution but WILL at a future time
- stir the pot every so often as a distraction and bring back up mention of "the list"
- eventually say there never was a list - and also say that you never said there was

 

[mrusso]

I think trump is on this "list" along with many others in Washington, Hollywood, the corporate world and beyond. That is why he is still roaming free, because the ones who could expose him would be exposing themselves. They all have the same dirt on each other. But what about the politicians not on the list...why don't they talk? My thoughts are they know to keep quiet if they want their plush careers to continue. "Careers before constituents" is the motto here.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I think trump is on this "list" along with many others in Washington, Hollywood, the corporate world and beyond. That is why he is still roaming free, because the ones who could expose him would be exposing themselves. They all have the same dirt on each other. But what about the politicians not on the list...why don't they talk? My thoughts are they know to keep quiet if they want their plush careers to continue. "Careers before constituents" is the motto here.

What I've watched over the last 5 years or so is that both left and right partisans demand "release the Epstein list" and both are convinced some politician they hate is on it (the right is convinced Bill Clinton is on there as a minimum, the left Trump). And that's the ONLY REASON for most of the hub-bub. Most of them don't really care in the abstract about pedophilia AT ALL, this is about scoring political points and taking down someone they loathe.

It's pretty hard to take the GOP seriously on pedophilia after Alabama nominated Roy Moore to the Senate. But then again, using the Nixon-Clinton-Trump precedent, even if his name is on the list, he can't be prosecuted for crimes that happened BEFORE he was in office until he is OUT OF office.

My suspicion has always been:
a) there never really is a "list"
b) there probably is "proof" however light/heavy of many famous people on "Epstein Island" or whatever.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

What I've watched over the last 5 years or so is that both left and right partisans demand "release the Epstein list" and both are convinced some politician they hate is on it (the right is convinced Bill Clinton is on there as a minimum, the left Trump). And that's the ONLY REASON for most of the hub-bub. Most of them don't really care in the abstract about pedophilia AT ALL, this is about scoring political points and taking down someone they loathe.

It's pretty hard to take the GOP seriously on pedophilia after Alabama nominated Roy Moore to the Senate. But then again, using the Nixon-Clinton-Trump precedent, even if his name is on the list, he can't be prosecuted for crimes that happened BEFORE he was in office until he is OUT OF office.

My suspicion has always been:
a) there never really is a "list"
b) there probably is "proof" however light/heavy of many famous people on "Epstein Island" or whatever.

Probably correct about the no list. Do people really think there is a list where they took role call like they were at summer camp? From some of the posts on here the left seems to believe only Trump's name is on the list and no one else.

 

[crimsonaudio]

What I've watched over the last 5 years or so is that both left and right partisans demand "release the Epstein list" and both are convinced some politician they hate is on it (the right is convinced Bill Clinton is on there as a minimum, the left Trump). And that's the ONLY REASON for most of the hub-bub. Most of them don't really care in the abstract about pedophilia AT ALL, this is about scoring political points and taking down someone they loathe.

Epically sad if true.

I want to see all pedophiles and sex traffickers dead and buried, I couldn't care less about their politics.

 

[JDCrimson]

Im more willing to bet there is video and tapes than a list...

What I've watched over the last 5 years or so is that both left and right partisans demand "release the Epstein list" and both are convinced some politician they hate is on it (the right is convinced Bill Clinton is on there as a minimum, the left Trump). And that's the ONLY REASON for most of the hub-bub. Most of them don't really care in the abstract about pedophilia AT ALL, this is about scoring political points and taking down someone they loathe.

It's pretty hard to take the GOP seriously on pedophilia after Alabama nominated Roy Moore to the Senate. But then again, using the Nixon-Clinton-Trump precedent, even if his name is on the list, he can't be prosecuted for crimes that happened BEFORE he was in office until he is OUT OF office.

My suspicion has always been:
a) there never really is a "list"
b) there probably is "proof" however light/heavy of many famous people on "Epstein Island" or whatever.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Epically sad if true.

I want to see all pedophiles and sex traffickers dead and buried, I couldn't care less about their politics.

Same here.

I have a deceased former member of my church who knew - not alleged but KNEW - back in 2010 that we had rich folks going down to Brazil (where he owned a fishing boat and was quite wealthy) and carrying on with under age girls. One not only attempted to assassinate him, he ADMITTED it in Brazilian court. They didn't care.

I remain convinced he died as young as he did - in part - because of the stress he endured losing everything on principle.

So yeah, it's personal with me.

If I found out what happened under Paterno happened under Saban, I would loathe Saban forever, too.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Im more willing to bet there is video and tapes than a list...

Not a bad bet probably.

It's easier to blackmail folks with videotape. I mean, I saw "The Firm", too!

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Im more willing to bet there is video and tapes than a list...

Exactly. Epstein Island has all the earmarks of a honey pot operation. The question remains: who was he working for? My best guess is Mossad, but that's only a guess.

 

[81usaf92]

I tend to think the Epstein list might just be a handful of people and whoever Maxwell says. I think if there ever was one then it’s unlikely to ever see public distribution because it would have alot of powerful people involved.

IDK if Trump is on it or not, but given the mountain of evidence of his sexual depravity would it really shock anyone with a brain not on meth if he was or did?

 

[JDCrimson]

I dont think there is any question he is in video, on tape, on a list and think its very likely Putin has a copy of all of it...

Think about it the only thing that truly ends political careers in the modern era sex trafficking and pedophilia. Real or faked kompromat of the same is leverage deep within each party's ranks...

Once you have achieved total control you dont need the kompromat any more just open windows...

I tend to think the Epstein list might just be a handful of people and whoever Maxwell says. I think if there ever was one then it’s unlikely to ever see public distribution because it would have alot of powerful people involved.

IDK if Trump is on it or not, but given the mountain of evidence of his sexual depravity would it really shock anyone with a brain not on meth if he was or did?

 

[75thru79]

I dont think there is any question he is in video, on tape, on a list and think its very likely Putin has a copy of all of it...

If Trump was on the "list" or on video then why didn't Biden release it. His Justice Department had the files for several years, long before November 2024. The Dems were so desperate to stop Trump that they tried everything under the sun to try and stop him. Why would you sit on that info if you were Biden?

My guess is the people being protected are mega donors, those ones who give massive amounts of money to both political parties. These are the only people politicians are afraid of.

 

[Bamaro]

Exactly. Epstein Island has all the earmarks of a honey pot operation. The question remains: who was he working for? My best guess is Mossad, but that's only a guess.

He worked for no one. He was simply a perv and had the money to persue that on a private island.

 

[81usaf92]

If Trump was on the "list" or on video then why didn't Biden release it. His Justice Department had the files for several years, long before November 2024. The Dems were so desperate to stop Trump that they tried everything under the sun to try and stop him. Why would you sit on that info if you were Biden?

My guess is the people being protected are mega donors, those ones who give massive amounts of money to both political parties. These are the only people politicians are afraid of.

Well

1) Biden wasn’t about political retaliation especially after we just had the morons just stormed the capitol after seriously believing “an election was rigged” so why stir it up again.

2) The Stormy Daniels and Access Hollywood stories had very little effect on Trump. So why would a revelation on Epstein? It would turn into it’s own conspiracy.

3) If a list exists then it’s highly likely that it involves a lot of heads of states or prominent government figures. I don’t think either party would really want those names to leak.


The most likely answer is either #3 or that the list is less of a list and more a collection of tapes and evidence. I think the only way we for sure find out is if Maxwell spills her guts but again who would believe anything she says in this political environment. But the reason we are truly talking about this is because Trump’s team boldly acted like they had a list and were ready to release it.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

If Trump was on the "list" or on video then why didn't Biden release it.

So now we're back to Joe Biden running a criminal enterprise?

How long until we're back to "he wasn't even awake"?

The Dems were so desperate to stop Trump that they tried everything under the sun to try and stop him.

They did?
What did they do?

Hearings into the riot Trump started on January 6?
Seizing classified material he had no right on his property?

I'm curious as to the answer to this question.

If they did everything under the sun, I wonder why they didn't think of just shooting him dead.....

Why would you sit on that info if you were Biden?

It never ceases to amaze me how many folks think that because Trump would do something, everyone else would. Maybe there were other Ds on it. Maybe HUNTER'S name was on it.

But this as an argument from silence.

My guess is the people being protected are mega donors, those ones who give massive amounts of money to both political parties. These are the only people politicians are afraid of.

My guess is there never was a list at all because he learned this tactic from Roy Cohn.