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Politics: God, Guns, and Gullibility: The Dangers of White Christian Nationalism

TIDE-HSV said:
Testing their control of the court...
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Undoubtedly, but why? This is a strange hill to die on (particularly in light of tons of legal precedent getting in the way.) What's the end game here? As the unofficial board cynic, it's my duty to point out that this feels like they are setting the kindling for something, but I'll be damned if I can figure out what. Whatever it is, it isn't good.
 
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I think there is a lot of evidence in this forum detailing what their intent is... And you are correct it isnt good.

CrimsonJazz said:
Undoubtedly, but why? This is a strange hill to die on (particularly in light of tons of legal precedent getting in the way.) What's the end game here? As the unofficial board cynic, it's my duty to point out that this feels like they are setting the kindling for something, but I'll be damned if I can figure out what. Whatever it is, it isn't good.
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NationalTitles18 said:
Many of the founding fathers kept the Jewish Torah and the Islamic Quran and studied them well. Those books are of historical significance and influenced the founders.

I guess that means we will see them taught in Oklahoma schools as well.
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If you teach the Bible you are automatically teaching from the Torah as well.

Side note, I think this is a terrible idea.
 
AWRTR said:
If you teach the Bible you are automatically teaching from the Torah as well.

Side note, I think this is a terrible idea.
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Depends what parts you are teaching from, I guess. If you are teaching from all of it then yes. If you are teaching the 10 commandments, yes. If you are teaching children to kill homosexuals in the street, yes.

But it is a terrible idea.

Teaching in general about different world religions?

Great idea. Cultural awareness is important.

Treating public school like Sunday school?

Horrible idea.
 
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jthomas666 said:
Judaism and Christianity approach interpretation of scripture in vastly different fashions.
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When it relates to some things yes and some things no. They wouldn’t see prophecy the same in some instances, and would differ on n the afterlife, but otherwise they would be very close in how they handle the rest of the Old Testament.
 
AWRTR said:
When it relates to some things yes and some things no. They wouldn’t see prophecy the same in some instances, and would differ on n the afterlife, but otherwise they would be very close in how they handle the rest of the Old Testament.
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I'll ask my Jewish and former atheist priest. He has said in the past that there are some fairly stark differences.
 
NationalTitles18 said:
I'll ask my Jewish and former atheist priest. He has said in the past that there are some fairly stark differences.
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In some areas there are. Christians don’t keep kosher laws but understand them and the reason and process. You will also see some differences depending on the sect within the Jewish faith. Some are more liberal some more conservative.
 
AWRTR said:
In some areas there are. Christians don’t keep kosher laws but understand them and the reason and process. You will also see some differences depending on the sect within the Jewish faith. Some are more liberal some more conservative.
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You mean people even thousands of years ago didn't agree on what the books actually said?

Surprising.

Most Christians understand Jewish laws from their own point of view, some better/closer to how Jewish people see them and some not so much. Depends on how much effort they've put in to educate themselves.
 
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NationalTitles18 said:
You mean people even thousands of years ago didn't agree on what the books actually said?

Surprising.

Most Christians understand Jewish laws from their own point of view, some better/closer to how Jewish people see them and some not so much. Depends on how much effort they've put in to educate themselves.
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The much more liberal modern sects take liberties with the text that aren’t intellectually honest. They just do whatever they want and try to figure out how to justify it. Free country do as you wish, but words have meanings. I find us having this same discussion over and over and it always seems to get nowhere.
 
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AWRTR said:
The much more liberal modern sects take liberties with the text that aren’t intellectually honest. They just do whatever they want and try to figure out how to justify it. Free country do as you wish, but words have meanings. I find us having this same discussion over and over and it always seems to get nowhere.
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It does.

We both agree that people make different interpretations.

And likely have done so for thousands of years.

There were different sects in Jesus' time.

But you always claim everyone but you is wrong and you somehow understand it better than anyone else in the history of the world.

I disagree.

And on it goes.
 
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